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Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:17 pm  |
| Does anyone know which is the strongest AHA cream? Obagi exfoderm,Jan Marini bioglycolic cream, or Alpha Hydrox AHA Souffle, or any other aha cream? |
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combo/acne prone skin/naturally tan-nc 42: HG so far: Pure Minerals Mineral Melt cleanser for OCM, JM bioglycolic cleanser, JM bioclear, EII, Sofina Nuance Up, SK-II airtouch fdn, Vincent Longo lip stain in Baby Boo & My Sunshine, Kevyn Aucoin Apricot Tansoleil blush |
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Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:24 am |
| No sure which is the strongest but I use alpha hydrox and the results are amazing! I know its 12% AHA. I posted some before and after pics on MUA.... |
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Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:39 am |
| Thanks Olivia. Is your MUA screen name the same? |
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combo/acne prone skin/naturally tan-nc 42: HG so far: Pure Minerals Mineral Melt cleanser for OCM, JM bioglycolic cleanser, JM bioclear, EII, Sofina Nuance Up, SK-II airtouch fdn, Vincent Longo lip stain in Baby Boo & My Sunshine, Kevyn Aucoin Apricot Tansoleil blush |
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Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:15 pm |
| Using Obagi exfoderm was my first exfoliant product. I actually do not think it is strong at all. There's an exfoderm forte that I haven't tried, I think that's stronger. |
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Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:18 pm |
| I am very sensitive with AHA ,but i am fine with Jan Marini bioglycolic . |
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Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:58 pm |
| Olivia wrote: |
| No sure which is the strongest but I use alpha hydrox and the results are amazing! I know its 12% AHA. I posted some before and after pics on MUA.... |
How do you use it? How often? etc. |
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kd, Livestrong! 54 years young breast cancer survivor with a tendency toward the dreaded t-zone and dryness and lines, but who cares I'm alive and kickin' |
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Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:59 pm |
I use Alpha Hydrox 12% AHA. I use only at night time.
I have heard some brands contain 15% AHA.  |
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Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:27 pm |
| Jira wrote: |
I use Alpha Hydrox 12% AHA. I use only at night time.
I have heard some brands contain 15% AHA. |
Sorry to bug Jira ... but every night? |
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kd, Livestrong! 54 years young breast cancer survivor with a tendency toward the dreaded t-zone and dryness and lines, but who cares I'm alive and kickin' |
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Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:30 pm |
| MD Forte Cleanser and Lotion III have 20% Glycolic Compound. |
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Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:57 pm |
yes kd  |
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Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:46 pm |
| I'm not sure the aha % of JMs bioglycolic, but I did try Alpha Hydrox last night & it didn't sting as much as JMs. But I don't know if that may be a result of JMs other ingredients - salycilic & azelaic. |
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combo/acne prone skin/naturally tan-nc 42: HG so far: Pure Minerals Mineral Melt cleanser for OCM, JM bioglycolic cleanser, JM bioclear, EII, Sofina Nuance Up, SK-II airtouch fdn, Vincent Longo lip stain in Baby Boo & My Sunshine, Kevyn Aucoin Apricot Tansoleil blush |
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:23 am |
| I think JMs bioglycolic just have Glycolic Acid not Aha right ?? |
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:11 pm |
| Maybe I'm mistaken, but I though glycolic was considered an AHA?? |
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combo/acne prone skin/naturally tan-nc 42: HG so far: Pure Minerals Mineral Melt cleanser for OCM, JM bioglycolic cleanser, JM bioclear, EII, Sofina Nuance Up, SK-II airtouch fdn, Vincent Longo lip stain in Baby Boo & My Sunshine, Kevyn Aucoin Apricot Tansoleil blush |
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:04 pm |
I paste from JM between aha and Glycolic Acid
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Glycolic acid is what is known as an "alpha hydroxy acid," or "AHA." Alpha hydroxy acids are a family of acids that occur naturally in various fruits and foods, and are often collectively referred to as fruit acids. Glycolic acid found in sugar cane has received the most attention medically because it has the smallest molecule of all the AHAs. This small molecular weight enables glycolic acid to penetrate more effectively and to ultimately bring about the most dramatic and beneficial changes of all the AHAs.
Among other things, glycolic acid loosens the "glue-like" attachments or cellular cement that is characteristic of many skin conditions such as acne, photodamage (environmental aging), and hyperpigmentation. This non-invasive lifting of the cells in the stratum corneum enables glycolic acid to act as a phenomenal resurfacing agent that can immensely improve the appearance of the skin and has even proven to be a valuable tool in reducing the depth of acne scarring.
As physicians and researchers gain a greater interest in glycolic acid, medical studies have revealed that glycolic acid may stimulate collagen, increase epidermal volume, and even act as a powerful antioxidant and free radical inhibitor. Tests also illustrate how glycolic acid acts as a delivery agent when combined with other beneficial ingredients or medications, thus potentiating the desired results. |
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Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:18 pm |
sometimes it is not about the % concentration of the AHA, but the pH of the product, which varies. sometimes you can have a high concentration AHA, with a higher pH and the product won't be as potent and something with a lower concentration.
I have very resistant skin and only products that are very potent have any effect on me. the product that i'm currently in love with is MaMa Lotion, which is an AHA but is made up of Mandelic and Malic Acids in concentrations of 10% each for a total of 20% acid. the acids themselves are considered to be more "gentle" than glycolic acid but, it also has a very low pH making the product very acidic and thus very potent. I personally push MaMa Lotion, lol, but if you are looking for a strong acid, i suggest not just looking at the % but also at the pH if u can find out what it is. HTH! |
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Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:52 am |
| I've been using PSF's AHA serum. but not sure the % of AHA though... |
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Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:18 am |
I use Jan Marinis Bioglycolic Bioclear Lotion which features 12% AHA, 2% BHA and 2% Azelaic acid. 
HTH! |
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Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:05 am |
| You can get any percentage of glycolic acid, etc. from DIY providers and / or on Ebay. You just have to know what's gonna work on your skin. Do you have experience with AHAs, BHAs, etc. to know what strength would work best with your skin? Stronger is not always better. |
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42yo, natural strawberry blonde so fair skin, blue-eyed, and dry skin |
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Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:57 pm |
| ben_253 wrote: |
I use Jan Marinis Bioglycolic Bioclear Lotion which features 12% AHA, 2% BHA and 2% Azelaic acid.
HTH! |
Thanks ben_253, just the info I was looking for. So it has the same % as alpha hydrox souffle. I think the bioclear works best on my acneic/hyperpigmented skin b/c along w/the aha, it also has the bha for the acne & azelaic for the hyperpigmentation. But, the alpha hydrox is a fraction of the cost of JM. I think that as soon as get my acne completely under control & the hyperpigmentation issues eradicated I will maintain the results w/the alpha hydrox. I have incorporated Obagi's clear into my regime & am hoping this will expedite the clearing of my hyperpigmentation issues.
lunarmm: I know, you're so right that stronger isn't always better. My skin seems to tolerate the 10-12% aha well. I don't have excessive peeling, but there is definite turnover/sloughing of the skin. |
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combo/acne prone skin/naturally tan-nc 42: HG so far: Pure Minerals Mineral Melt cleanser for OCM, JM bioglycolic cleanser, JM bioclear, EII, Sofina Nuance Up, SK-II airtouch fdn, Vincent Longo lip stain in Baby Boo & My Sunshine, Kevyn Aucoin Apricot Tansoleil blush |
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Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:20 am |
No worries leidon.
You can get the JM through eBay cheaper than here and other online retailers. The AlphaHydrox souffle is a cream whereas the JM lotion is more like a serum which is absorbed immediately (it has no hydration effect on the skin). I've also tried the JM Bioclear cream and it has also been quite successful, it's much more hydrating than the lotion.
Good luck! |
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Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:24 am |
Hi all, I'm a newbie and in need of some help 
I'm on Obagi nuderm, using the whole kit (with 0.1% tret) sans the exfoderm.
i'm just wondering if I can substitute the exfoderm with AHA 12% souffle?
Your help will be greatly appreciated. |
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