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Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:47 pm  |
| I just had artefill about 4 hrs ago.I had one full syringe,I will be going back in 2 to 4 weeks for a final layer.So far, I can say the pain was not too bad, there was pain but not as painful as restylane or radiesse. I did not have a dental block, just numbing cream.The pain was on the level of a botox shot,not too bad. It took the dr. about ten minutes to inject the full syringe. In the last year I have had a very tiny line(like if you took your babyfingernail and made a dent inyour face) by my lower lip-he blew it away permanently. He also injected a little under my lower lip where I had a tiny line and he injected by the corners of my mouth, my mouth looks better now!My nasal folds have seen a big improvement even though I will go back for a last touchup...my nasal folds look like they did in my late twenties...I am 53.The consistency of artefill?Very smooth.I have had both resty and radiesse, both were lumpy. ,you cant feel anything with artefill.The nurse said that artefill has plastic beads released in a collagen base(thats why you need a test first) When the collagen dissipates, your own scar tissue fills in around the plastic beads for a permanent cushion. I am very happy with this new filler,all the other fillers did not last: hylaform and resty:30 days, radiesse 6 mos.I paid 995 for a full syringe, you can buy half syringes too.Artefill was having a promotion, the nurse filled out a card which will give me a $150 Americam Express gift card!I am thrilled with the results and will report back in 2 weeks after my final touchup. If anyone is thinking of doing artfill, just make sure your dr has a lot of experience,its permanent. |
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Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:04 pm |
Did you have the marionette lines filled. This is my main issue. I have had them done twice - the first time with Restylane. The pain afterwards was horrific, couldn't open my mouth to talk, plus there was no visible difference. Second time I had Radiesse - this didn't hurt as much but the lines are still there. Various doctors have all told me that the marionette lines are the hardest to fill - I'm certainly not having any luck.
I'm very pleased you're happy with the Artefill. I'd be tempted to try it except I can't seem to find a doctor that I have confidence in to do a good job. |
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Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:30 am |
| Yes, the marionette lines should be softened significantly or gotten rid of altogether,I was very surprised he was able to get rid of that tiny line by my mouth. www.artefill.com go to the company's website and click on locate a dr. they will have a list of drs in your area who have been trained in the proper usage. The redness is gone away,I dont even look like I have just had injections,I am not swollen, bruised, or have any red marks. |
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Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:12 am |
LucyLuc,
Did you have the Dr. who did the trials do your Artefill? I have called the company today and the docs in my area have been doing it ten months. I was told that most of the Drs doing it were trained at the same time.
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Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:41 am |
| Is Artefill legal in the States yet? Was this part of a clinical trial? Is Artefill different than Artecol? |
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Vehicle is a 1952 scratch and dent model....olive-ish, dry skin, long curly gray hair. Staples: Tazorac, 2mm Dermaroller, Anti Aging Light Stim, Devita Sunscreens, homemade C serums, some positive affirmations and whatever else it takes! Kicking and screaming the whole way... |
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Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:12 pm |
| mountaingirl wrote: |
| Is Artefill legal in the States yet? Was this part of a clinical trial? Is Artefill different than Artecol? |
According to Paula, consumer relations at the company headquarters, Artefill was approved a year ago with most of the Dr's being trained in February of this year. I think it is sold as Artefill in the U.S. but is the same product as Artecoll. I'm not sure on that last point however. I'm hoping Lucyluc can give more details. From what I understand, the studies were done in San Diego by one primary Dr. I do have his name but I'm not sure of the spelling. |
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Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:18 pm |
| artefill is the name for the product in the US; artecol is the name for the product in Europe.I think the artefill is the same product with a slight improvement from the old product. It has been used safely in Europe for 10 yrs, just approved in the US around Feb. My dr., Dr. Flynn in Encinitas California has been injecting it since it was legal and has very many happy women who dont have to go back every5 mos for more treatments. You can go to www.artefill.com to find out more information..you can also click on locate a dr in your area to find a dr. who does it in your area...they are supposed to be specially trained since the injection technique is a little different from the other fillers.Today I notice I do have a tiny bruise by my mouth,but thats all.The left side of my nasal line is close to being perfect(or the way I like it)The right side still needs a little more filler. I am going to find out if they can do the "elevens" ,my sister doesnt want to do botox there,not sure if its approved for that though. You arent supposed to do it in the lips but I have heard from a couple of people that had it done years ago in their lips and it has always stayed,they were happy with it. |
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Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:23 pm |
| I dont think my dr. participated in the trials in southern calif., where the factory is(inSan Diego),there were several drs. who participated in the trials.Dr. Cohen in SD(he is also a major investor in the co.) and Dr. Hamilton in the orange cty and LA area.I called there for quotes and I was told 2500!That seemed awfully high to me.I decided to go to Dr. Flynn because he had the experience, his price was very competitive and I was happy with the plastic surgeries he has done for me. |
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Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:51 pm |
| sounds great! please keep us posted...I wonder why not for lips? |
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:40 pm |
Does anyone know of a Dr. in Atlanta that does this procedure? I'm tired of putting out big $$$ for Radiesse and I'm due... Thanks.
Sista |
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:47 pm |
| How does this compare to Radiesse in price and longevity? I would love to get rid of my nose to mouth lines. |
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:00 am |
Sista...Atlanta Docs doing it:
Dr Rusca, Dr Harvey Cole, Dr James Davis , Dr
Gregory MacKay, Dr Anna Pare. HTH |
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Vehicle is a 1952 scratch and dent model....olive-ish, dry skin, long curly gray hair. Staples: Tazorac, 2mm Dermaroller, Anti Aging Light Stim, Devita Sunscreens, homemade C serums, some positive affirmations and whatever else it takes! Kicking and screaming the whole way... |
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:46 am |
| Thanks Mountaingirl! - Any of these that you can specifically recommend? It's kinda scary since it is permanant. |
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:17 pm |
| I have never used any of those Plastic Surgeons...and am only familiar with Dr Hestor (not on the list) and I don't think he does artefill. My absolute favorite Dermatologist in Atlanta is Dr Casey (Hailey, Brody and Casey.) I don't know if he does that filler, but I would trust him to do ANY filler out there. Good luck! |
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Vehicle is a 1952 scratch and dent model....olive-ish, dry skin, long curly gray hair. Staples: Tazorac, 2mm Dermaroller, Anti Aging Light Stim, Devita Sunscreens, homemade C serums, some positive affirmations and whatever else it takes! Kicking and screaming the whole way... |
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:56 am |
| you can find an approved dr who has been trained in the proper technique of artefill thru their website at www.artefill.com. It is suggested that you first try a temporary filler like restylane to see if you like the "look"., if you do .,whem restylane wears off you can get the permanent filler. I am happy I did it since the other fillers lasted sometimes barely a month. |
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:57 am |
| Just wanted to mention that when I was researching Dr's who do Artefill in my area, I ran across an interesting thing to be aware of. Many of the Dr's were not actually doing the non permament fillers, leaving that job to an nurse. But, they were the ones doing the actual Artefill. I don't know about some of you, but I want a Dr who is actually doing all his injections and not just some of them. |
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:55 pm |
| I have used juvedererm - lasted (maybe!) three months. Restalyn - less than a year. I'm ready for the permanent thing. I have spent so much $ on things that don't last. I go to a plastic surgeon who pushes juvederm and other fillers (hyaluronic acid) and they don't last. |
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:36 am |
| yes drs love it because you have to keep going back and that keeps the cash rolling in. I have had hylaform too(lasted less than 30 days at a cost of 900).Restylane did not last much longer. Radiesse lasted me a little over 6 mos but could be lumpy. Artefill has been safely used in Europe for over 10 yrs,over 100,000 have had it with minimal side effects,its not like it is a new filler,its just that its only been available in the US for the last yr...I highly recommend it. |
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:49 am |
| dont suppose anyone knows of a doc that does it here in tokyo? |
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:54 am |
| I had Radiesse (not Restalyne - well I had that too) but the Radiesse is what lasted about a year. And yes, a little lumpy but better than fading away in less than three months. Oh, I want the Artefill. |
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:46 am |
Sorry, I don't think this is a good idea in my opinion. You find first solution to your wrinkles, then if you don't find the solution, I guess you will resort to this? 
I am almost 50 and STILL don't have any lines as yet!
And I am using Obagi line of products....
Also BE GOOD TO YOURSELF, I mean, eat right, sleep good numbers of hours, be less stressful and all that....
| lucyluc wrote: |
| I just had artefill about 4 hrs ago.I had one full syringe,I will be going back in 2 to 4 weeks for a final layer.So far, I can say the pain was not too bad, there was pain but not as painful as restylane or radiesse. I did not have a dental block, just numbing cream.The pain was on the level of a botox shot,not too bad. It took the dr. about ten minutes to inject the full syringe. In the last year I have had a very tiny line(like if you took your babyfingernail and made a dent inyour face) by my lower lip-he blew it away permanently. He also injected a little under my lower lip where I had a tiny line and he injected by the corners of my mouth, my mouth looks better now!My nasal folds have seen a big improvement even though I will go back for a last touchup...my nasal folds look like they did in my late twenties...I am 53.The consistency of artefill?Very smooth.I have had both resty and radiesse, both were lumpy. ,you cant feel anything with artefill.The nurse said that artefill has plastic beads released in a collagen base(thats why you need a test first) When the collagen dissipates, your own scar tissue fills in around the plastic beads for a permanent cushion. I am very happy with this new filler,all the other fillers did not last: hylaform and resty:30 days, radiesse 6 mos.I paid 995 for a full syringe, you can buy half syringes too.Artefill was having a promotion, the nurse filled out a card which will give me a $150 Americam Express gift card!I am thrilled with the results and will report back in 2 weeks after my final touchup. If anyone is thinking of doing artfill, just make sure your dr has a lot of experience,its permanent. |
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Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:38 pm |
Sagging and loss of facial volume is a separate issue apart from wrinkles.
I am 47 and nearly wrinkle free too....but it's the tear troughs and NL lines that age me now....
BF |
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Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:15 pm |
| Exactly. The NS lines are my downfall also. HOlding together pretty well otherwise! And I like it that way! |
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:08 pm |
Yesterday I had the allergy test/skintest for Artefill and am scheduled for May 7th for the real deal.
For those of you who have done this - how soon after the initial did you schedule the follow up - boost injection?
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Sis |
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:11 pm |
| first syringe 30 days after the scratch test.Then about 3 weeks after the first syringe he layered in a second syringe. |
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