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Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:12 am  |
I am currently using a 12.5% peel from Platinum skincare to fade areas of pigmentation, with nice results. However, I would like to prevent the pigmentation from returning.
After doing a bit of research, I decided to purchase Loreal Revitalift with Mexoryl, which recieved nice reviews on Makeupalley.com. However, I know from this site that some people opt for a physical sunblock as well as a chemical formula.
I purchased Juice Organics SPF 30 light tint moisturizer, which I have used in the past. It uses a zinc based formuala as the sunscreen.
So my question is this........can you use these products together, or do they cancel each other out? Mountain girl posed this question in a previous post. |
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Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:15 pm |
| I am curious about this as well. I thought mexoryl was supposed to be one of the more stable chemical sunscreens. Could using a product with zinc in it at the same time reduce its effectiveness? |
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32 years old, combination skin, working on lots of age-related changes (fine lines, dull skin, hyperpigmentation) since I hit the big 3-0. Loving the 302 line. |
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Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:00 am |
| I don't think I can answer this... All I know is that chemical sunscreens together with minerals can cause a conflict, e.i that the minerals cancel out the protection. Physical sunscreens go well togehter with minerals, but they are so and so when it comes to UVA protection. Apparantly? Would this be applied to zink then? I am about to buy some Avene chemical ss, as I've heard they are an exeption to this. |
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Norwegian, 28, brunette, medium/pale skintone, green eyes. Not sensitive skin, bit dry in winter, trying to figure out preventative skincare. Happy with: retin-a cream, emu, LRP Anthelios ss, Careprost. Stopped with CPs. Curious about: Bioderma ss, Renova, gadgets. |
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Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:15 am |
Well, after reading numerous posts, I am still pretty confused.
SO....I went ahead and purchased what seems to be the HG of sunscreens.......La Roche's Athelios 60 with mexoryl XL and SX. This formula is only sold in Canada and Europe. I purchased mine from Canada at feelbest.com. They are running a special....you get three bottles of the Athelios 60 and one free bottle of your choice. My total was about $65.00 U.S. and that included shipping. I just hope that this doesn't break out my acne prone skin. If you read the reviews on makeupalley.com....the product seems to be a bit greasy. |
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Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:10 pm |
| belledivine67 wrote: |
Well, after reading numerous posts, I am still pretty confused.
SO....I went ahead and purchased what seems to be the HG of sunscreens.......La Roche's Athelios 60 with mexoryl XL and SX. This formula is only sold in Canada and Europe. I purchased mine from Canada at feelbest.com. They are running a special....you get three bottles of the Athelios 60 and one free bottle of your choice. My total was about $65.00 U.S. and that included shipping. I just hope that this doesn't break out my acne prone skin. If you read the reviews on makeupalley.com....the product seems to be a bit greasy. |
Most of my friends with breakout prone skin use LRP sunscreens without any problems except shine breakthrough during the day. However, the key is to make sure that you clean it ALL off at the end of the day. Euro sunscreens cling to your skin like nothing else does! I find that a normal cleanser (foam, gel, lotion, cream or milk) isn't good enough at removing Euro sunscreens. Cleansing oils (commercial ones or plain carrier oils) or balms do a much better job, so make sure you do have one on hand. Otherwise, you're very likely to end up with blackheads and spots. |
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26 with dehydrated combo skin, prone to blackheads and congestions, NC20-25 |
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Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:46 am |
| Make sure the product doesn't contain Avobenzone (Parsol 1789 or Butyl Methoxydibenzoylmethane, a chemical sunscreen). It is the one whose protection minerals will reduce. |
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28, nomal skin. Pale is what I aim for... |
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Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:14 pm |
| What about Mexoryl then? Will minerals degrade it too?? |
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Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:50 pm |
| i read here about avobenzene based SS degrading when used together with mineral based products for exmaple bioderma. |
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Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:42 pm |
| Stardustdy wrote: |
| What about Mexoryl then? Will minerals degrade it too?? |
So far I haven't heard that Mexoryl can be degraded by minerals. |
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28, nomal skin. Pale is what I aim for... |
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Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:37 pm |
So basically only "Avobenzone" will be degraded if applied with MMU?
What about Tinosorb now? Is it a physical or chemical ss? |
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Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:09 pm |
avobenzone stabilized with tinosorbs should not degrade upon exposure to sunlight... bioderma's latest ss line has minerals (ti20; Zn0) AND avo AND tinosorbs all together, and it seems to do the job just fine (I tested it on the beach). whether or not these chemicals degrade the skin barrier is quite another sotry--it's your call!
by the way, the french equivalent to the fda is MUCH more stringent and careful when it comes to approving formulations, esp sunscreens. this is why all the major pharma-cosmetics companies over there have to reformulate constantly.
make sure you buy the latest formulations of avene, bioderma, etc.
the reason we don't have tinosorbs and other stabilizers over here has to do with our devastatingly flawed lobby system (in america that is). l'oreal U.S. bought the rights to use mexoryl and they have cornered the market on ss.
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| Stardustdy wrote: |
So basically only "Avobenzone" will be degraded if applied with MMU?
What about Tinosorb now? Is it a physical or chemical ss? |
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http://newnaturalbeauty.tumblr.com/ 37, light-toned olive skin, broken caps, normal skin. My staples: Osea cleansing milk, Algae Oil, Advanced Protection Cream, Eyes & Lips, Tata Harper, Julie Hewett makeup, Amazing Cosmetics Powder, & By Terry Light Expert, Burnout, and daily inversion therapy and green smoothies! |
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Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:05 am |
| avalange - thank you for the clarification! |
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Norwegian, 28, brunette, medium/pale skintone, green eyes. Not sensitive skin, bit dry in winter, trying to figure out preventative skincare. Happy with: retin-a cream, emu, LRP Anthelios ss, Careprost. Stopped with CPs. Curious about: Bioderma ss, Renova, gadgets. |
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