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Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:11 pm      Reply with quote
I know there are a lot of factors when it comes to hair loss. I color my hair every 6 weeks (I dont get highlights, just all over color) and I am wondering if this can contribute to thinning hair. I have always had thinner hair, but could this cause further damage? I have recently started taking MSM, Biotin and a b5 vitamin, along with flaxseed oil to hopefully make my hair thicker, as well as using Nioxin products (minus the shampoo which I found out has SLS in it) And I am going to start doing OCM once a week (Thanks to the advice given by Sylphidenior! Um I hope I spelled that right!) I get my hair done professionally by my cousin at her salon-she would kill me if I used the drugstore stuff-but Im hoping this isnt making my hair thinner and thinner as the years go by (Im 23 and have beem coloring it since I was 18.)

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Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:07 pm      Reply with quote
angelwings,

I stopped coloring my hair about 6 months ago- after doing all over color for about 7 years- and my hair looks like a new head of hair. I've always had thin hair, but after the last color, it shed to the point I was scared. And when I was honest with myself, I always felt sort of bad after coloring, headache-y and tired, so it was definitely doing something that didn't agree with me. And I was using Robert Craig, a super gentle color. After research, it seems that PDP is one of the culprits. Probably more ingredients causing reactions, but that's the one that puts people in the hospital.

I think some people can handle it, some scalps are fine with it, but some people can't and I had to finally admit I was one of them. Truth is, it isn't good for anyone. I also don't use SLS shampoo, which also made me shed, but I stopped that long before I stopped coloring. For me at least, stopping the coloring was the main thing that gave me my hair back. Actually, I guess I do still
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- I use a henna gloss mixture (not from a box) that blends in my grays.

Having said all that, be sure and check to see if there is anything else going on that could be contributing to hair loss- thyroid issues, anemia, to name a couple.
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Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:28 pm      Reply with quote
I have been using some form of color on my hair for at least 15 years - whether it be highlights, temporary or whatever. In the past 6 years it is to cover gray. I have a thick head of hair and it has not been affected by coloring at all. I am not saying that coloring has not affected your hair but maybe something else is going on, as well? There are just way too many people out there that regularly color and do not have thinning hair. I think the reality is that some folks can handle it and some folks react in a bad way to it. Interesting.
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Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:03 pm      Reply with quote
damblues,

I think we're in agreement- coloring effects some people and doesn't effect others, but if you're one of the people it does effect, it can be pretty severe. For me and some others I know, everything was fine for the first few years of using color. Then we noticed a change- lots of hair loss after coloring (and for days afterwards)and feeling bad. I really, really did not want to stop coloring my hair (covering greys)so I tried to go milder with Robert Craig colors. I didn't feel as bad with those, but still had the hair loss so I just quit. What's the point of covering greys if the hair's falling out?
There seems to be some sort of sensitization that builds with the chemical PPD, which is why they always tell you to do a patch test, even if you've used it before with no problem. I noticed on the Henna for Hair site there is a post that mentions a class action lawsuit going forward about PPD- somewhere on the east coast I think, I have to go back and reread. Anyway, it will be interesting to follow.
My conclusion is this: If you already have fine,thin hair, putting toxic chemicals on your scalp is probably not going to help you.
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Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:18 pm      Reply with quote
You are probably right. What about products like LUSH, don't they have some shampoo with henna in it that colors the hair? Of course, you would be limited to dark colors. Would not help if you were blonde..

I am going to look for that class action stuff, interesting. I have not had any problems - so far. (Thankfully)
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If "hair coloring" is done right, and the recipient doesn't have an allergy to the dye, it actually "THICKENS" the hair..and also gives it more body.

Why you ask? Because the color is being deposited on the hair shaft, which adds a layer to the hair.

If hair is falling out, it's a big red flag that something is going wrong...i.e.; allergy or timing.

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Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:50 pm      Reply with quote
Kassy_A wrote:
If "hair coloring" is done right, and the recipient doesn't have an allergy to the dye, it actually "THICKENS" the hair..and also gives it more body.

Why you ask? Because the color is being deposited on the hair shaft, which adds a layer to the hair.

If hair is falling out, it's a big red flag that something is going wrong...i.e.; allergy or timing.

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Wow. Interesting. So it kind of acts like a protective layer over the hair? My cousin is a hair stylist and she tells me its not bad for my hair, but look what she does for a living.
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Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:59 pm      Reply with quote
angelwings1226 wrote:
Kassy_A wrote:
If "hair coloring" is done right, and the recipient doesn't have an allergy to the dye, it actually "THICKENS" the hair..and also gives it more body.

Why you ask? Because the color is being deposited on the hair shaft, which adds a layer to the hair.

If hair is falling out, it's a big red flag that something is going wrong...i.e.; allergy or timing.

HTH
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Wow. Interesting. So it kind of acts like a protective layer over the hair? My cousin is a hair stylist and she tells me its not bad for my hair, but look what she does for a living.


I was a hairdresser many moons ago. Your cousin is right. Coloring is not bad for hair, as long as allergy is not an issue.. (That is why the "strand test" warnings are on ALL boxes of haircolor.

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Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:51 am      Reply with quote
I found there were more huge dandruff after coloring my hair.
I only color my twice or 3 times a year.
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Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:32 am      Reply with quote
Kassy_A wrote:
angelwings1226 wrote:
Kassy_A wrote:
If "hair coloring" is done right, and the recipient doesn't have an allergy to the dye, it actually "THICKENS" the hair..and also gives it more body.

Why you ask? Because the color is being deposited on the hair shaft, which adds a layer to the hair.

If hair is falling out, it's a big red flag that something is going wrong...i.e.; allergy or timing.

HTH
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Wow. Interesting. So it kind of acts like a protective layer over the hair? My cousin is a hair stylist and she tells me its not bad for my hair, but look what she does for a living.


I was a hairdresser many moons ago. Your cousin is right. Coloring is not bad for hair, as long as allergy is not an issue.. (That is why the "strand test" warnings are on ALL boxes of haircolor.



I definitely dont have an allergy problem with the color, so thats good. Smile I guess I will just have to figure out other ways to thicken up my hair and maybe let the time in between color get a little larger while the other things I am doing are at work on my scalp. Smile
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Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:54 pm      Reply with quote
Angelwings, just keep in mind, an allergy can present itself at any time, so the strand test should always be done before coloring..

And for the record, the "drugstore stuff" is the same thing you get in the salon. The only difference is the drugstore variety is all measured out for you. In a salon, they have the option of mixing the color, or several colors together, with the appropriate strength of peroxide for each clients needs. It's a little hairdresser trick; mix a couple of colors together, so the client can't duplicate it at home..

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Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:51 pm      Reply with quote
I have been colouring my hair for about 20 years and find that it thickens my hair. Anytime I've tried to not dye it anymore, once the new hair starts to grow in my hair would feel limp at the roots so I would dye it or highlight it to thicken it up. I've always thought that this was because the dye dried my hair out so it would just look thicker. I never thought about the fact that it actually puts a coating on the hair.
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Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:28 am      Reply with quote
I don't know if anyone out there is like me but I can't use hair colour unless it's done by using a cap highlighting method. If the colour touches my scalp I do find I get too much scalp irritation. Thank god I'm going gray and not fighting it. It's not for everyone but for me it was the only answer to keeping healthy hair.
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Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:02 pm      Reply with quote
Kassy_A wrote:
Angelwings, just keep in mind, an allergy can present itself at any time, so the strand test should always be done before coloring..

And for the record, the "drugstore stuff" is the same thing you get in the salon. The only difference is the drugstore variety is all measured out for you. In a salon, they have the option of mixing the color, or several colors together, with the appropriate strength of peroxide for each clients needs. It's a little hairdresser trick; mix a couple of colors together, so the client can't duplicate it at home..

HTH


My hairdresser has commented that the color I use on my hair is the exact same color she would use. So instead of paying $70.00 for her to do it I only pay $15.00. But, I do still get her to highlite it for me.
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