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Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:42 pm  |
Hi everyone, I have decided to give up on sunscreen for a while. I know this is a somewhat radical statement on this board  , but I have not had any luck at all for so long. Chemical sunscreens cause allergic reactions while physical sunscreens cause breakouts for me.
What I am looking for now is a good, natural, alternative to use on days where I am not staying outdoors. I am thinking of a natural day cream with ingredients like shea butter, carrot, lycopene, olive and other antioxidants to give my face some sort of protection.
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Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:37 pm |
smoothskin i read here in a few threads that some people use mineral makeup instead on chemical or physical sunscreen........i dunno why it works as an alternative to using sunscrean....but maybe these users can shed some light into this as well as which mineral makeup can be used...is it it any  |
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age 33 .. skin dry with odd breakout now and then. skin color best i can describe is golden brown..tans easily |
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Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:53 pm |
| Hi Simran, thanks for the reply. The sunscreen in mineral make up is either titanium dioxide or zinc oxide which both cause break outs for me... |
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Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:02 pm |
| Have you investigated Red Raspberry seed oil? I use i twice daily. Not sure I'd trust it on it's own but in your case it might be worth looking into. |
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Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:04 pm |
Isn't there some Helioplex pill you can take (or am I getting the name wrong?) that's supposed to help?
And hey, Smoothskin, I know I'm a zealot, but have you ever tried the Devita zinc-based sunscreen? It's surprisingly different than other physicals, and while most sunscreens make me break out, this one doesn't at all. If you ever just wanna try a small sample, PM me and I'll decant you a bit (since I don't think they have samples from the company). |
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32, fair hair/eyes/skin, always a mix of dry/oily/sensitive/acne/clogged pores. But I keep getting compliments on my skin, so something must be working! Beauty blog at http://heliotro.pe; online dating coaching at http://theheartographer.com |
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Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:24 pm |
Thanks Bluesheart, this is exactly the kind of information I am after. I will google to see if there are any creams featuring this ingredient. I believe shea butter also has some protective qualities.
Thanks Ginnielizz, I was raving about the Devita sunscreen in a review called something like "Finally a sunscreen suitable for every day use" way back. Since then, my skin has become much more sensitive, and I now want to take a complete break from sunscreens. |
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Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:40 pm |
| Aw, what a bummer! But I'm glad to hear you've at least checked it out. It's the only cream I know of that contains Rhatany root extract, which they claim has some anti-UV properties -- but maybe you could try making your own DIY infusion of this or something? Just another plant to add to your list, perhaps. Good luck and let us know what you wind up doing -- I'm sure others on here would love to know more (myself included!). |
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32, fair hair/eyes/skin, always a mix of dry/oily/sensitive/acne/clogged pores. But I keep getting compliments on my skin, so something must be working! Beauty blog at http://heliotro.pe; online dating coaching at http://theheartographer.com |
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Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:12 pm |
I used raspberry seed oil on my neck last summer as sunscreens give me neck zits. It didnt feel greasy and seemed to keep my neck tan free but it stained my shirt collars so I have a yellow stain I cant get rid of. I havent tried bleach as I cant handle the smell.
Mineral makeup works great for sunscreen as long as you can reapply to keep the coverage or find one that is going to last the day in order to protect the skin. |
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Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:36 am |
The sun protection from mineral makeup is the same ingredients in physical sunscreens (zinc and titanium). If the problem of breaking out is caused by those minerals, you probably can't even wear mineral makeup.
Have you thought of wearing a face visor when outside and installing UV protective window film in you home and car? |
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28, nomal skin. Pale is what I aim for... |
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Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:53 am |
I read something recently about a study that indicated that eating a diet high in fruits and vegs provided a level of sun protection, something to do with the antioxidants in these foods. Not sure how reputable or large the study was and no idea where I saw it now, sorry, but might be worth looking into?
Murad makes a supplement (pomegranate based if I remember right) which claims to offer sun protection. Murad supplements can be pricy though and there’s probably other options that are more cost-effective. |
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Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:00 pm |
| It depends on how natural you want and how high you want the SPF. Skyn Iceland has the Antidote daily quenching lotion in spf 15 that works really well. It's even good as a makeup base. It also won't clog pores! |
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Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:26 am |
If you are wanting natural sunscreen alternatives, consider boosting your body's internal sunscreen.. basically boosting antioxidant and bioflavonoid intake immensely and you will develop a constant and stable SPF on the dermis.
I am not entirely convinced of the SPF properties of plant derived ingredients, the testing is done on crude unrefined substances in laboratory conditions. There is no guarantee that whatever antioxidants are in shea butter, sesame oil etc even survive the extraction process. I have used raspberry seed oil daily for some period, and I really cannot comment its effects as an effective sunscreen. |
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:09 am |
| If you in hot country,sunscreen cream is very important.If use sunscreen cream,you may use good cleansing oil to remove sunscreen and makeup. |
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:16 am |
| I know this will probably sound quite daft, but I gave up on sunscreen too (though i live in the hot brown country of Australia) - instead, I wear a hat that shades my face, keep my face out of the sun and minimise the amount of time I am outside. When I am working, I find that the amount of time I am actually exposed to daylight is about 10 to 15 mins tops. So I decided that sunscreen and the chemicals in sunscreen wasn't really worth it for me. |
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Look younger???? What the???? I would be happy with not looking any older!! Living in desperate hope. |
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:22 am |
| Hey Smoothskin! I read/watched a recent study on the news about the effect of green tea in reducing the probability of occurence. Not sure from where, but I think 2 cups a day reduced risk by 30%. Of course this doesn't mean the green tea can reduce the other downsides of sun exposure, but every little bit helps right? |
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Mid-20s Asian female (since I am not mature enough to be called a woman ). Skin is combination with tendency to dryness around the cheeks and prone to blemishes. Naturally coarse black hair  . Lastly but most importantly, you need something purchased in Australia I will be happy to CP  :. |
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:13 pm |
thinks for sharing the imformation.
Iam looking for a great sunscreen too.....  |
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:21 pm |
There name of the pill that acts as sunscreen from within the body is Heliocare. Active ingredient in the pill is derived from a fern plant, which is natural.
Here is a description I got from one of the web sites that distributes it:
UV Sun Protection in Capsules
protecting solar skin damage from the inside out
Heliocare® is an oral dietary supplement with antioxidant properties which helps maintain the skin's ability to protect against sun related effects and aging.*
Currently Heliocare® (Polypodium leucotomos extract) is the only agent known to provide systemic photoprotection, making it a major scientific breakthrough in sun protection. Although topical sunscreen formulations provide varied levels of protection against UVB and UVA radiation and protect from burning, they cannot completely stop all harmful UV rays from penetrating the skin. Heliocare® works by sustaining the skin's natural ability to deal with sun (UV) related effects and aging.*
Here a link to a skin cancer blog: http://www.thecancerblog.com/2006/07/23/heliocare-sunscreen-in-a-pill-fights-skin-cancer/ |
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:25 pm |
| I have interest to try some brand. Would anyone give me some advice?? Thx! |
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Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:10 am |
| Smoothskin wrote: |
Hi everyone, I have decided to give up on sunscreen for a while. I know this is a somewhat radical statement on this board , but I have not had any luck at all for so long. Chemical sunscreens cause allergic reactions while physical sunscreens cause breakouts for me.
What I am looking for now is a good, natural, alternative to use on days where I am not staying outdoors. I am thinking of a natural day cream with ingredients like shea butter, carrot, lycopene, olive and other antioxidants to give my face some sort of protection.
Any ideas? |
There is no alternative, sorry to say but thats the truth. If you're indoors maybe use a foundation with spf15 in it. You'll still get the protection even if you step outside for only a few minutes and your skin will look nice. |
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Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:19 pm |
| If you are getting breakouts from the TD and ZO in the minerals try applying with a flocked sponge instead. I find using a brush cause microtears and the minerals get in so I get tiny little whiteheads. Flocked sponges apply better without any stress to the skin. Mineral Basics has an antiaging serum that has antioxidant properties. |
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Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:15 pm |
From my understanding there are many oils that are helpful such as: raspberry seed oil (have fun finding this one), sea buckthorn seed oil, sesame oil, shea butter, and rose hip seed oil. To what SPF I dont know.
Other interesting info is that if you have a diet high in Essential fatty acids such as 3,6,9 your skin will internally protect itself against UV damage.
I rarely wear sunscreen and I have FAIR skin. SOmetimes I will do the 5-8mins tanning beds in the winter to get a base tan. This totally prevents any burns in the summer. I do use oils, and take a ton of EFA!!!! |
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Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:39 am |
I would NEVER go to tanning beds. It's too risky IMO. It seems that your skin is darkened by the UVA in tanning beds and "protected" from the sun but I don't think the increased melanin will prevent long-term damage that can lead to aging and skin cancer. The UV rays that help produce vitamin D are UVB rays, NOT the ones in tanning beds. So I don't think tanning beds have any benefit.
I agree that antioxidants (topical and in food) are good for general health and can fight free radicals. |
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28, nomal skin. Pale is what I aim for... |
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Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:13 am |
Ditto what Sakura said. I've been using mineral makeup ever since I learned about it on this forum. It works so well that the sun hasn't touched my face in years. As long as I use a flocked sponge to apply it, it won't make my sensitive/allergic skin react. I've never been able to use a brush, though. (Thanks, Sakura, for explaining why. I've always wondered about that!)
Oh, and I don't know if this will help or not, but Hawaiians and other Pacific Islanders have traditionally used coconut oil as a moisturizer and natural sunscreen. Supposedly that's why women in the Philippines tend to have great skin and age better. But I've heard that it has to be "virgin" coconut oil in order to work.
That being said, I'm having a hard time believing it because when I was young and used to bake myself on the beach, I used coconut oil to get a darker tan. Go figure.  |
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46, brunette, grey eyes, ultra-sensitive skin that loves Dr. Haushka cleansers and moisturizers |
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