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Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:44 pm  |
My third session using Kassy's suggested protocol - very pleased with the results.
Thank you Kassy, darling, as always.
Philip |
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Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:55 am |
| Alley wrote: |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
Hmmm,
According to the above logic better not blow dry wet hair everyone!
JMHO
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This is an exact example of snipping that Kassy is referring to in her above post - it is getting old.... |
DarkMoon - Do you feel your post adds any value to the thread for AALS? If it does, then pls ignore my post, but if it doesn't, then maybe you will consider keeping your comments to yourself?
I own the AALS and Steve from LS mentioned that AALS should be used on dry skin. When I use the AALS, the appliance does touch my face and if its dripping wet, it will definitely get on the appliance and potentially drip onto the electrical wiring. When you blow dry your hair, your wet hair does not touch the electrical parts and its the hot air that has contact with your hair. Besides, I can't think of a situation where your wet hair can drip onto the dryer since you are not leaving your dryer on your hair for prolonged periods.
This is just so childish. I'm sure many will agree with me that Kassy has given tremendous input to this forum. It is really sad that because of redundant comments like yours, she feels hesitant to post and share her opinions so that people that aren't that close to her can benefit as well. |
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Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:15 pm |
All this hoohaa about wetness is completely ridiculous IMHO. Admittedly, I live in a hot climate - but when I apply anything to my face, my skin just sucks it up and its gone in a flash. Plus, the LED treatment takes me about 45 minutes, so the supposed wetness is only going to apply to the first application of the LED. Nobody is going to be applying the AALS to a sopping wet face, you'd have to be continually wetting the face down for it to be a real worry. And whether or not there is a need to wait 20 minutes, I really don't know. But considering the length of the treatment time, I don't see that it's all that important.
I repeat again, if we were having this type of discussion face to face, we would all be laughing about the things we get up to - not pulling each other apart.
No-one is trying to give Kassy a hard time - I know that she really has a heart of gold and enjoys helping people - however, others should be allowed to comment if they wish.
I think everyone should just grab a gadget and chill-out - the "Sensitivity Factor" is way too high at the moment.  |
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Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:39 pm |
I read it as apply the green tea and wait for 20mins before using the lightstim.
I guess because Lacey is contradicting herself because she earlier said wait 20mins and now she's telling someone not to wait?
I noticed Lacey tries to refute whatever Kassy says. Like she wants to prove Kassy wrong and she expects them to be supported with studies. Well that's just my opinion. |
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:53 am |
| faeriedust wrote: |
I read it as apply the green tea and wait for 20mins before using the lightstim.
I guess because Lacey is contradicting herself because she earlier said wait 20mins and now she's telling someone not to wait?
I noticed Lacey tries to refute whatever Kassy says. Like she wants to prove Kassy wrong and she expects them to be supported with studies. Well that's just my opinion. |
Just putting my 2 cents in here. I believe Lacy was quoting a 2nd study where it said you did not need to wait? I could be wrong, but I thought there was like a part 1 and a part 2 of the study. I don't think anyone is trying to refute what anyone says - everyone is just sharing their own opinion on things. That is what the forum is for, no?
ETA: I do not use the lightstim, but I follow this thread for useful info as I do use the Prolight and think people can get good advice on usage time, etc, from others who have used the LED's with good results. |
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:55 am |
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:53 am Post subject:
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Rileygirl said,
"Just putting my 2 cents in here. I believe Lacy was quoting a 2nd study where it said you did not need to wait? I could be wrong, but I thought there was like a part 1 and a part 2 of the study. I don't think anyone is trying to refute what anyone says - everyone is just sharing their own opinion on things. That is what the forum is for, no?"
Lacey gave this same info on another thread (I believe it was the led and green teas thread, but am not sure)were it was very well received and she was thanked and appreciated for the info. |
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:20 am |
| jasminerosey wrote: |
Lacey gave this same info on another thread (I believe it was the led and green teas thread, but am not sure)were it was very well received and she was thanked and appreciated for the info. |
This is the post from Lacy you are talking about, jasminerosey.
"For those of you interested in the study by Sommer and Zhu, I was able to find more information:
Photomedicine and Laser Surgery
Green Tea and Red Light - A Powerful Duo in Skin Rejuvenation.
Online information can be seen here:
http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/pho.2009.2547?prevSearch=allfield%253A%2528sommer%2Bzhu%2529&searchHistoryKey=
Please note the following protocol regarding the application of green tea prior to LED exposure:
After 2 months of extreme oxidative stress, green tea-filled cotton pads were placed once per day for 20 minutes onto the skin before treatment with an array of light-emitting diodes ..."
**FOR** 20 minutes, not 20 minutes before. HTH" |
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:23 am |
Actually, waiting may make sense - to allow more penetration time (unscientific common sense observation).
Unfortunately, I agree with faeriedust. I had also seen a pattern of an attempts by Lacy to refute anything that Kassy said. I find it rather sad and not productive.
We are here to share the knowledge and information, not to compete or prove points (or collect number of posts).
Let's try to move forward in a more friendly and productive way. |
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:38 pm |
I know this is off topic - so no flames please in advance.
I miss Kassy.
Nothing else to say on the subject.
PQ. |
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:20 pm |
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I know this is off topic - so no flames please in advance.
I miss Kassy.
Nothing else to say on the subject.
PQ. |
Me too  |
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mid 40's, blonde, blue eyes, normal skin, DIY skin regime, AALS - biggest problem undereye - getting much better with AALS & DIY serums. |
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:01 pm |
Yes - I also miss Kassy and her straightforward viewpoints. She was the one who caused me to start researching the AAlightstim which I've had for 18 months and love. Her serum recipes and other good advice were terrific as well.
She was also one to try all the new gadgets and report back to the rest of us - and you know it
was truthful. It's very unfortunate that folks don't respect differing opinions as we lose so much information and education when that happens!
Kassy - we'd love to have you back! DiPhx |
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:20 pm |
| I feel, also, that Kassy has had a very dynamic, alive presence on this forum and has given much to people. |
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:01 pm |
Kassy come back pleeease!
We all miss you.  |
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Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:50 am |
| Alley wrote: |
| photoqueen wrote: |
I know this is off topic - so no flames please in advance.
I miss Kassy.
Nothing else to say on the subject.
PQ. |
Me too |
Me three!!! |
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Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:31 am |
| summer2004 wrote: |
| Alley wrote: |
| photoqueen wrote: |
I know this is off topic - so no flames please in advance.
I miss Kassy.
Nothing else to say on the subject.
PQ. |
Me too |
Me three!!! |
Me four! |
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Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:33 am |
| Add me as another missing Kassy. It is just not the same without her advice and encouragement and knowledge. |
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Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:45 pm |
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| It is just not the same without her advice and encouragement and knowledge. |
I could not have said it better.
Me six (or whatever...) |
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Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:48 pm |
I've been sporadically following this thread and am considering adding this device based on a lot of happy customers with time behind them (esp Kassy!). I've read about lessening of lines, pigmentation improvement, collagen/elasticity improvement, and skin plumpening... Wondering if the plumpening is helping out anyone with hollows in their cheeks?... I'm happy with my FE program, but stubborn spot is my hollows and I can't seem to get over the last hurdle. Do you think it would be delusional to hope for some improvement in this area?
thanks all! |
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Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:53 pm |
Okay gang this is the third attempt to post here. I have a computer that has gone crazy and I tried posting three heart felt posts for several days only to have them lost in cyberspace 
Kassy has been a member here for several years nurturing newbies and long timers with tips for the lightstim and DIY among many other things. She brings experience, recipes,and discovery to anyone interested. She has posted pictures and answers TONS of emails as well as postings. I am not telling you any thing you don't already know, except if you haven't worked a forum like this it is difficult to realize how taxing it can be. To dedicate this type of service is not far from being a job. She does it out of passion for her personal interest to look great as she ages and to help others do the same. She also tries to be realistic with cost involved wanting to be practical with cost for herself and others. Taking on this kind of service to the forum requires time and commitment and often you can become weary. Kassy has brought humor and laughter to the aging process which is probably as valuable as anything else we learn here. My hope is that Kassy will continue to share and be a part because she is what makes EDS such a wonderful place. She and others contribute to helping us go forward with confidence,class, and best of all... a good sense of humor. Kassy if you are checking in with us we think you ROCK girlfriend  . For the rest of us we can pick up the slack and hope that Kassy will return to share some more of her latest goodies because we KNOW she cooking some up
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Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:35 pm |
DITTO  |
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Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:10 pm |
WHAT... NO KASSY????
Hey Kassy - We "old-time" EDS-ers have shared a lot over these few years - and have learned a lot - most of it from you.  Some of the young-uns need you too. There is a core of people here who really want you back on the forum with us. We are what really matters So Please Kassy: - Come out, come out wherever you are. 
Miss you Kassy - Sis |
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Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:59 pm |
| I miss reading Kassy's postings too. |
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Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:53 pm |
Okay. I own no gadgets (yet  ) and am virtually a lurker - see lacklustre post count - but am treating myself to my first off-topic post.
EDS is my favourite site to hang, thanks to the enthusiasm and generosity of most posters, none more so than Kassy. She's a gem.
So please, come back and hang out, Kassy.
PS. And for what it's worth, I don't think she's being overly sensitive - even I've noticed some narkiness.
Cheers,
Lee |
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Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:17 pm |
| Kassy_A wrote: |
Looks like it's safe to come out of hiding
My heartfelt thanks to all of you who posted, PM'd and emailed me so much ♥ ♥ ♥. You all know who your are, and I feel the same about all of you... BIG hugs, and a whole lotta . |
So glad you stopped by Kassy. From so many posts from the members requesting your presence it does say that you are well loved and missed. |
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Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:13 pm |
| Kassy, yay! You're back! |
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