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Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:41 am Reply with quoteQuote
I'm having surgery on june 16 and would like to take all precautions to have the scars heal as invisible as possible. What do you recommend that I get to apply (or take orally) after the bandages have been removed?

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Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:59 am Reply with quoteQuote
i cant reply to your question, but am interested in the answers as well...

anyway, i wish you good luck, all the best and a quick recovery...

may i ask - and if you like to tell - if you are going to a cosmetics surgery?
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Check with your doctor, Anomaly, but I've read that taking Vitamin C with bioflavonoids before/after + Bromelain (some say before, some say before/after, some say only after) + Arnica after assists with bruising, swelling/inflammation and healing + Centella asiatica (Gotu Kola) before/after helps with shortening the healing time as well as scarring...

Arnica 12c Homeopathic Support for Trauma and Bruising
Homeopathic Arnica Montana is an FDA approved over-the-counter remedy traditionally used for trauma and bruising. A recent double-blind clinical trial using Arnica 12c in patients undergoing face lift demonstrated a significantly reduced the area of bruising in the treatment group. On average, there was 25% more bruising the in placebo group versus those taking Arnica. A report given in 2002 to the American Society of Aesthetic Plastic Surgery showed that patients taking Arnica 12c had significantly less bruising and swelling compared to placebo.

Indications for Arnica 12c include:
• Bruising
• Swelling/edema
• Pain from trauma

Arnica can be started immediately after surgery and is usually taken 1 to 4 times daily for 7 to 10 days. The product is delivered as small pellets that easily dissolve under the tongue.

REFERENCES: 1. Seeley BM, Denton AB, Ahn MS, Maas CS. Effect of homeopathic Arnica montana on bruising in face-lifts: results of a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trial. Arch Facial Plast Surg. 2006 Jan-Feb;8(1):54-9.
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Bromelain
Although studies show mixed results, bromelain supplements may reduce swelling, bruising, healing time, and pain following surgery and physical injuries. In fact an authoritative body in Germany called the Commission E (similar to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration) approved the use of bromelain for these purposes.

Some studies of animals indicate that bromelain (applied to the surface of the skin) may be useful in removing dead tissue from third-degree burns (particularly burns that go through all layers of the skin). This application has not yet been tested on people, but traditional and current day practices in Japan, Hawaii and Taiwan include use of topical bromelain to clean wounds and burns. Similarly, some clinicians may recommend this topical agent to reduce swelling from insect bites or stings.

Although not all experts agree, bromelain supplements may help suppress cough, reduce nasal mucus associated with sinusitis, and relieve the swelling and inflammation caused by hay fever. Bromelain is approved by the German Commission E for the treatment of sinus and nasal swelling following ear, nose, and throat surgery or trauma.

REFERENCES: many listed on the links below
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/bromelain-000289.htm
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/ETO/content/ETO_5_3X_Bromelain.asp?sitearea=ETO

I hope your surgery goes well! Smile
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Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:45 am Reply with quoteQuote
Vitamin A, C and E and zinc are recommended to prepare your body for surgery and speed up healing, according to this article. Personally. I would not use herbal supplements prior to surgery.

http://www.healthy-vitamin-choice.com/supplements-for-surgery.html

It's important to avoid Omega 3 (fish oil) prior to surgery, and a long list of other supplements, found in this link:

http://www.tuckthattummy.com/medication_list.htm

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Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:24 pm Reply with quoteQuote
Good luck with your upcoming surgery. Very Happy
Hopefully,you have let friends know that you may need a little more attention during this time.
I would check with the Dr (like so many have suggested) I thought I had heard that VitC may thin your blood.
We will be sending good thoughts your way. And what a good time to read that new book,and rest.


Speedy recovery

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Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:26 pm Reply with quoteQuote
To help scars heal - topical emu oil and/or vit. E afterward.

Check the thread on EDS where the two different types of scars are described and their treatment.

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Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:54 pm Reply with quoteQuote
racheli wrote:
i cant reply to your question, but am interested in the answers as well...

anyway, i wish you good luck, all the best and a quick recovery...

may i ask - and if you like to tell - if you are going to a cosmetics surgery?


Well, I wasn't going to say, but what the heck... I'm having a breast lift.. after nursing for four years and both babies preferring one over the other... I need it... Laughing

Thank you for all the well wishes and prayers... I'm hoping everything goes ok and no complications.

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Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:19 pm Reply with quoteQuote
I hope it goes ok!
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Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:29 pm Reply with quoteQuote
I would be very careful with Vit E. It can also cause blood thinning which I didn't know prior to surgery and they had some problems controlling my bleeding because of it. There is a site called yes they're fake with a lot of good info about this procedure.
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Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:17 pm Reply with quoteQuote
Also vitamin K -- and stop all blood thinning OTC right NOW Aspirin, Ibuprophen, etc. Your doc should have instructed you about this.

Keep the incisions moist with Neosporin ointment (or similar), and they will heal in half the time without scars.

Good luck and CONGRATS!

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Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:27 pm Reply with quoteQuote
I would suggest after the surgery vit E and Neosporin ointment. It is a good idea to talk to a doctor (dermatologist) and ask what you can use.

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Have you looked at Actipatches? I used them with my nose surgery, and felt that they definitely made a diffence.

http://www.makemeheal.com/mmh/product/breastaugmentation/healingdevices/actipatch/index.vm?procid=1&catid=1387&subcatid=1388&gclid=CMKejPzD4ZMCFQS7sgod42gkZA

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Hi, anomaly. I had an upper and lower bleph done on March 20. My plastic surgeon's advice was to stop ALL vitamins, minerals and supplements -- not just the ones that have blood-thinning effects -- and NSAIDs for two weeks prior to surgery. Alcohol consumption was restricted but I can't remember the specifics at the moment, so check with your surgeon. I was also advised to start Arnica 30C pellets the day before surgery (four pellets, every four hours) and to continue them for two weeks after the surgery. I did not use bromelain, but had very little bruising.

For two weeks after surgery, I was required to apply prescribed antibiotic ointment to the incisions. After that, it was suggested I apply Dermatix (silicon scar gel, available at EDS) to encourage the scars to lighten and smooth out. I continue to use it every night and, while my incisions are still pink enough to be visible without concealer, they certainly are coming along very nicely.

HTH. Above all, follow your surgeon's advice. Best wishes to you for a successful surgery and speedy recovery!
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Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:34 pm Reply with quoteQuote
Wish you all the best!!

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Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:08 am Reply with quoteQuote
Hi anomaly,

I wish you all the best with your surgery, and a smooth and quick recovery.

Also, I thought I would mention a product my derm's sec mentioned to me after I had some keratoses on my face removed. It's made by La Roche-Posay and is called Cicaplast Epidermal Recovery Accelerator. I did not get a chance to try it (yet) so I can't comment on hwo it works. If you google 'Cicaplast' you'll find some info. But here are two links you may find helpful:

http://www.skin-etc.com/laroci.html

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:bpqFFL679fcJ:www.justbreastimplants.com/forum/post-op-recovery-forum/22775-3-week-appt-cicaplast.html+Cicaplast&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=ca&client=firefox-a

All my best,
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Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:37 pm Reply with quoteQuote
Thank you all. I will check out all your suggestions.

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