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Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:05 pm      Reply with quote
Okay, HELP! Im 21 and im obsessed with my skin.

I use retin A and Emu Oil currently and obviously sunscreen during the day.

whats going on here????

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u can ttoally see the crinkling up of my skin when i smile, and i think this has to do with thin skin (im not really sure, just a hypothesis since last year i went way crazy with the peels...)

what can i do to fix this?? i cant afford botoz and frankly, at 21 it shouldnt even be a thought.
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Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:22 pm      Reply with quote
What's wrong with it?

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Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:24 pm      Reply with quote
Nimue wrote:
What's wrong with it?


lots of fine lines on my cheek when i smile (it didnt used to look like that).

and also around my eye
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Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:39 pm      Reply with quote
Maybe I'm missing something here, but I think that's normal.

natefan87 wrote:
Nimue wrote:
What's wrong with it?


lots of fine lines on my cheek when i smile (it didnt used to look like that).

and also around my eye

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Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:49 pm      Reply with quote
Your face looks completely normal to me too - your skin looks good Smile
Everyone has smile lines around the eyes....I would be pretty unhappy with mine too if I took a photo that close up - even a super model wouldn't look that fabulous Very Happy
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Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:20 pm      Reply with quote
Well, but he's only 21, hon!!!! Remember your first line? Were you not horrrrrrified???

Nate, your skin is not in really bad shape, but if you are obsessed about it, like 90% of us here, you're in the right place!! I like Green Cream at night instead of Retin-A. It's far less drying and frankly, a much better product for smoothing and clarifying the skin. Retin-A just made me a prune...not nice at all.

So I use that at night, alone, without any other moisturizer or eye cream. Lights out after applying since light de-activates it.

Then, in the a.m., a gentle cleanser and a good vitamin C serum, like SkinCeuticals, plus a sunscreen (very important, as you know, with retinoids). I like KEYS Solar Rx SPF 30, since it has no chemicals, only zinc oxide, and it's lightly moisturizing.

Please try this and see if it doesn't help! Also, good nutrition, lots of water, daily exercise (including facial exercise and massage), and happy thoughts!
Hope this helps hon!

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Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:13 pm      Reply with quote
Hi Fawnie,
What is Green Cream? Sounds very interesting...and is it for a particular skin type?
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Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:41 pm      Reply with quote
I'm 22 and have very few wrinkles thanks to this site.

you should look into Dove's Intensive Firming Cream. It will not get rid of the wrinkles completely but it will make them a lot less noticable. After using it my entire face firmed up to the point people thought I lost weight. As bad as it may sound the cream is so strong I cant lift my eyebrows. Not sure if you'd consider that a good thing but I have no forehead wrinkles as a result.
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Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:26 pm      Reply with quote
When many people smile their eyes crinkle up. It all depends on how facial expressions are made. I think you are obsessed over nothing. A lot of people are self conscious over little things. I guess it is human nature.

Sleep well, eat well, exercise and be happy.
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Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:46 am      Reply with quote
sophias said it,

I like my smiley lines, it would look unhuman to not have any laugh lines.... although if u have then when u dont smile or laugh then maybe you want to look into it..
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Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:21 am      Reply with quote
Hi. I think your skin looks good!! If I were you, I would continue with Retin-A and emu oil. As far as I can see, you have nothing to repair, but it's wise to prevent signs of aging. It could be an idea to include a vitamin C serum in your routine. What about using Retin-A and vitamin C serums alternate days? As you are so young, it should be sufficient to use one active product per day. Smile

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Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:51 am      Reply with quote
Hello, Nate. Your skin looks great and the smile lines are perfectly normal. I think the trouble is with the slight puffiness under the eyes (the dreaded bags). Make sure you get plenty of rest & drink lots of water. Try Preparation H for a temporary fix (my fellow grave-shift blackjack dealers swear by it)Asprin mask works for well for me. Google other remedies. You're a handsome guy, stop obsessing! Joanna
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Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:23 pm      Reply with quote
sal-star - www.greencream.com will tell you all about it.
It's a retinoid that is better tolerated by most than Retin-A due to its delivery system. Also, it's easier to spread and doesn't dry the skin out as much. Good for all skin types to refine the complexion; available in 3 levels of strength.
There are posts about it here as well. Very Happy

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Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:26 pm      Reply with quote
Thanks so much fawnie Smile
It may be just the right retinoid product for me, I am a little nervous about using retin A as my skin is sensitive so the Green Cream sounds a little more soothing, especially if I start on the lower one...I will check the website out.
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Sorry but I could not resist posting again because I just went into the Green Cream website and WOW!!!!!!! the before and after pics on the front are truly astounding! Shock
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Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:27 pm      Reply with quote
The one easy secret to great skin? Lots of water! Keeping your skin hydrated will do wonders. I think your skin looks fabulous.
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Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:13 am      Reply with quote
Just my opinion, but I think the retin A is a bit premature. Emu oil is great though. You may have ODed on the peels, so give them a break. Is there something for skin thickening??
If you crinkle when you smile, I think that is ok. But if the creases remain when you aren't, then that is when to worry.
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Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:16 pm      Reply with quote
It does sound a little anal/crazy, but this exact thing happened to me too from using retin a/peels etc. I used to never have any crinkley laugh/smile lines now I have a ton and they are asymmetric which is more bothersome than anything else. Like you said, I think it has to do with thinned skin. I would try taking a fish/flax oil supplement, it may help repair some of the thinning. Also, I've heard that EGF from skinactives helps with thinned skin.
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Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:04 pm      Reply with quote
Studies show that using the .15mm needle baby dermaroller 2 to 3 times a week can increase epidermal thickness significantly over several months.

The only ones available in that length that I am aware of are the Leaf & Rusher TX Roller (the newer one with the yellow handle made by Dr. Roller) and the Home Care Roller made by Dermaroller.

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Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:40 pm      Reply with quote
Dude, your tripping. Its normal.

I have the similiar issue in that i squint sometimes when I smile exacerbating the wrinkles. I just try to limit smiling. Very Happy

Seriously though, you worry when the wrinkles remain AFTER the smile is gone.
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bethany wrote:
Studies show that using the .15mm needle baby dermaroller 2 to 3 times a week can increase epidermal thickness significantly over several months.

The only ones available in that length that I am aware of are the Leaf & Rusher TX Roller (the newer one with the yellow handle made by Dr. Roller) and the Home Care Roller made by Dermaroller.


Where would you find this? I can't find anything this size online
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Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:14 pm      Reply with quote
Ok, first of all, your skin looks GREAT!! At first when I saw the title of the post, I was expecting horrific pics but when I looked at them, I was like "what problems?? I don't see ANY!!".

It seems like the only creases you see are around your eyes..and that's normal when you smile. But you might be able to fine tune it a little using a good eye cream. The one I would suggest is the Pevonia line. There are two types but I think both works wonders! My personal favourite is Evolutive Eye Cream...it is amazing!!
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Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:22 pm      Reply with quote
chuchu wrote:
Dude, your tripping. Its normal.

I have the similiar issue in that i squint sometimes when I smile exacerbating the wrinkles. I just try to limit smiling. Very Happy

Seriously though, you worry when the wrinkles remain AFTER the smile is gone.


Oh dear - is it necessary to limit smiling!!? I am sure you are probably only joking but I am responding because I have seen similar posts where people talk about trying not to smile so they do not get lines. What a sad world if we don't smile for fear of wrinkles Sad

I personally believe in doing the best you can for your skin and I will take all the precautions I can and I love products -but a little character in the face is essential. We don't all want to look like little wrinkle-less zombies do we?
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Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:45 pm      Reply with quote
What peels did you do nate? your skin looks great!
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Coconut wrote:
bethany wrote:
Studies show that using the .15mm needle baby dermaroller 2 to 3 times a week can increase epidermal thickness significantly over several months.

The only ones available in that length that I am aware of are the Leaf & Rusher TX Roller (the newer one with the yellow handle made by Dr. Roller) and the Home Care Roller made by Dermaroller.


Where would you find this? I can't find anything this size online


Do a google search on Leaf & Rusher TX Roller. I purchased mine from them directly:

http://www.leafandrusher.com/ProductDetail.cfm?Itemid=64

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