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Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:12 am  |
Well, now I'm rethinking my posts here. I was using the whole Obagi system (I had previously been using Retin-A alone). I started having those lung problems I mentioned. So I quit the Retin-A and Obagi and it got better. I bought Obagi C-RX and used it. I started having the lung problems again. So now I'm wondering if I'm extremely sensitive to something in all of the Obagi products. I don't even know if this is possible or not.
I do want to add a Vit. C, but there are so many. It's hard to know which will do the maximum for my skin. |
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Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:55 am |
| volmel wrote: |
Well, now I'm rethinking my posts here. I was using the whole Obagi system (I had previously been using Retin-A alone). I started having those lung problems I mentioned. So I quit the Retin-A and Obagi and it got better. I bought Obagi C-RX and used it. I started having the lung problems again. So now I'm wondering if I'm extremely sensitive to something in all of the Obagi products. I don't even know if this is possible or not.
I do want to add a Vit. C, but there are so many. It's hard to know which will do the maximum for my skin. |
volmel, you could be having a reaction to the sodium metabisulfite. There is a warning on Obagi products about allergic reactions from sodium metabisulfite, check the back of the products or the brochure that came with you things. |
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Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:33 am |
| riley, could this be a cousin of a sulfa drug? I am allergic to sulfa drugs that I've had to take in the past. |
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Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:50 pm |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| volmel wrote: |
Well, now I'm rethinking my posts here. I was using the whole Obagi system (I had previously been using Retin-A alone). I started having those lung problems I mentioned. So I quit the Retin-A and Obagi and it got better. I bought Obagi C-RX and used it. I started having the lung problems again. So now I'm wondering if I'm extremely sensitive to something in all of the Obagi products. I don't even know if this is possible or not.
I do want to add a Vit. C, but there are so many. It's hard to know which will do the maximum for my skin. |
volmel, you could be having a reaction to the sodium metabisulfite. There is a warning on Obagi products about allergic reactions from sodium metabisulfite, check the back of the products or the brochure that came with you things. |
| volmel wrote: |
| riley, could this be a cousin of a sulfa drug? I am allergic to sulfa drugs that I've had to take in the past. |
I sure hope you didn't give up your cats due to the lung issue if it turns out to be Obagi! But if this turns out to be your issue, I would probably give up your doctor.
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Sulfites are sometimes added to foods to act as enhancers or preservatives. They may come in various forms, such as:
- Sulfur dioxide
- Potassium bisulfite or potassium metabisulfite
- Sodium bisulfite, sodium metabisulfite or sodium sulfite
Some humans are allergic to sulfites. It is an undeclared allergen that may cause breathing difficulty within minutes after eating a food containing sulfites.[5] Asthmatics and people with allergies to aspirin (also known as salicylate sensitivity) are at an elevated risk for reaction to sulfites.[5] The reaction can be fatal and requires immediate treatment at an emergency room, and can include sneezing, swelling of the throat, and hives. Sulfites are also known to destroy vitamin B1 (thiamin), a vitamin essential for metabolism of carbohydrates and alcohol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfites |
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Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:34 pm |
Riley and Bethany, I can't thank you enough for those links. And don't worry, Bethany, the cats are staying, although I have made them quit sleeping in my bed with me.
Those links make sense to me. The sulfites are in some inhalers for asthma and some of the inhalers made me worse, until the pulmonologist put me on the correct ones. I would think this is all in my head, except they have measured lung capacity and have done asthma tests and I have flunked them. So it has to be something I'm using, since other factors have remained the same. I've been in the same house, same pets, same husband (lol) for years, so I have to think it's something new chemically.
Many thanks for all your help! |
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Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:03 pm |
You're welcome, volmel. Good luck to you. I am hoping it is not the Obagi products causing your problems, but it certainly sounds that it may be if you had problems while on Nu Derm and then on C-RX.
I had lung issues when I first started using the nu derm several years ago (flare-up with my asthma). I assumed I had an allergy to the sulfite. But, I was desperate to get rid of my hyperpigmentation, so I tried the products again after a few months off, and I have not had any issues since.
Anyway, it pays to remember everything we put on our skin is absorbed into our bodies, so there is always a chance of some type of reaction! |
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Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:00 pm |
| SeanySeanUK wrote: |
Retinol is a natural form of vitamin A, while Retin-A and Renova are based on retinoic acid, a synthetic derivative of vitamin A, which is prescription only and considered a pharmaceutical (hence usually is available only on prescription).
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Is Retin A the same as Retinol??  |
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SeanyseanUK - this is not actually a true statement. Retin-A is not a synthetic version of Vitamin A, but is a 'derivative'. It is actually an acid form of Vit A. and is called retonic acid. Another word for it is tretinoin. In skin, tretinoin is the form of vitamin A that can actually affect cell production by binding to the tretinoin receptor sites on the cell.
Tazorac is a synthetic form of tretinoin. It is a bit 'stronger' than Retin A too. (according to some accounts).
volmel - rileygirl is giving you some good advice. I hope you get to the bottom of this.
seany - don't want to sound like a preacher. just don't like things to get mis-represented. |
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Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:37 pm |
| volmel wrote: |
Riley and Bethany, I can't thank you enough for those links. And don't worry, Bethany, the cats are staying, although I have made them quit sleeping in my bed with me.
Those links make sense to me. The sulfites are in some inhalers for asthma and some of the inhalers made me worse, until the pulmonologist put me on the correct ones. I would think this is all in my head, except they have measured lung capacity and have done asthma tests and I have flunked them. So it has to be something I'm using, since other factors have remained the same. I've been in the same house, same pets, same husband (lol) for years, so I have to think it's something new chemically.
Many thanks for all your help! |
No problem! I'm just glad you didn't have to give up your fur kids.  |
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Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:53 pm |
| foxe wrote: |
| SeanySeanUK wrote: |
Retinol is a natural form of vitamin A, while Retin-A and Renova are based on retinoic acid, a synthetic derivative of vitamin A, which is prescription only and considered a pharmaceutical (hence usually is available only on prescription).
| Stardustdy wrote: |
| Is Retin A the same as Retinol?? |
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SeanyseanUK - this is not actually a true statement. Retin-A is not a synthetic version of Vitamin A, but is a 'derivative'. It is actually an acid form of Vit A. and is called retonic acid. Another word for it is tretinoin. In skin, tretinoin is the form of vitamin A that can actually affect cell production by binding to the tretinoin receptor sites on the cell.
Tazorac is a synthetic form of tretinoin. It is a bit 'stronger' than Retin A too. (according to some accounts).
volmel - rileygirl is giving you some good advice. I hope you get to the bottom of this.
seany - don't want to sound like a preacher. just don't like things to get mis-represented. |
I don't want to sound like a preacher, either, but
Retin-A is only a brand name. The active ingredient in Retin-A is tretinoin, which is vitamin A acid, also called retinoic acid.
Here is a good explanation on Retin-A and retinol from Paula's Choice.
http://www.paulaschoice.com.au/learn/dictionary.asp?ID=R&TYPE=SEARCH
ETA: It seems like the link is not working. Just search for "Retin-A" and "retinol" in the cosmetic ingredient dictionary. |
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Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:38 pm |
| I've asked my derm but he says it's safe... so I'm going to just trust him. I can't live without my retin-A. |
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Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:51 am |
Thanks for correcting me Foxe, your 100% right, I went back to my textbooks and it does say its a derivative. My memory does at times play tricks on me.... but thanks for clearing it up.
So much info out there and not enough time to learn it and master it all and turn it into knowledge!
| foxe wrote: |
| SeanySeanUK wrote: |
Retinol is a natural form of vitamin A, while Retin-A and Renova are based on retinoic acid, a synthetic derivative of vitamin A, which is prescription only and considered a pharmaceutical (hence usually is available only on prescription).
| Stardustdy wrote: |
| Is Retin A the same as Retinol?? |
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SeanyseanUK - this is not actually a true statement. Retin-A is not a synthetic version of Vitamin A, but is a 'derivative'. It is actually an acid form of Vit A. and is called retonic acid. Another word for it is tretinoin. In skin, tretinoin is the form of vitamin A that can actually affect cell production by binding to the tretinoin receptor sites on the cell.
Tazorac is a synthetic form of tretinoin. It is a bit 'stronger' than Retin A too. (according to some accounts).
volmel - rileygirl is giving you some good advice. I hope you get to the bottom of this.
seany - don't want to sound like a preacher. just don't like things to get mis-represented. |
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