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Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:53 pm      Reply with quote
Ladies,
All my life I have always been having fine thin hair. I have tried nioxin, which gave me acnes around the hairline.
I also have tried phyto shampoo and hair thinning treatment with no luck.
Any suggestion?
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Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:42 am      Reply with quote
Me too, but with age it only gets worse, i.e. after menopause. I accidentally found that my hair was growing in, my hairdresser noticed, too.
Turns out I started taking Glucosamine chondroitin with MSM twice a day (Trader Joe's).
I'm convinced it's the MSM that's doing it, as when I took it without, I never noticed anything like this. Anyone else have this result?
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Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:12 am      Reply with quote
I also take glucosamine, MSM, biotin and viviscal. I don't think my hair is necessarily thicker but it has appeared to stop thinning. I also use Wen cleansing conditioner rather than shampoo and I think this helps as well.
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Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:42 am      Reply with quote
I also have baby fine, thin hair - it's been the bain of my life. However, I now wear it in a pixie cut so now I don't have much to worry about!

I did read in a study about hair growth once that when we are born, we all have a certain amount of hair follicles and they remain a constant for our entire life. So it is therefore impossible to grow more hairs on the head (and everywhere else on the body).

Like Oakview, for the past 6 months I have been using conditioner only to clean my hair. And I have to say my hair is much more manageable, feels thicker and doesn't seem to get as greasy so quickly. Of course, there is a multitude of hair products out there all claiming to give us thick, lustrous locks - so it's really a matter of trial and error to find something that works for you.

If your hair is actually thinning out, then I think that is something to consult your doctor about. But try conditioner washing for starters.
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Biosil has been shown to actually increase the diameter of the hair shaft.

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Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:42 am      Reply with quote
Try Rogaine? They make a formula for women. I used to use it and my hair seemed thicker. I quit using it when I changed hairstyles and didn't want it to look so thick. Go figger!

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I have been plagued with my fine hair falling on and off throughout my life. With me, it is caused by the hormones testosterone and estradiol. I take bio-ID hormones (estriol and progesterone). After meno, my hair stopped falling out and became very thick in terms of the number of active hair follicles. When I added estradiol to the mix (hoping to thicken up my skin), my hair went into freefall. I went back to straight estriol as my estrogenic hormone and my hair is growing back thickly again. I also have been on minoxidil (Rogaine) since I was 22 and now take a saw palmetto capsule every day. (Like minoxidil, saw palmetto prevents testosterone from converting to DHT, which causes hair to fall.) We all have testosterone, but the relative amount of it increases as we pass meno and our female hormone levels drop. Testosterone is the last sex hormone to wane in females, which is why we also see a thickening of the waistline and strange moustaches when a few years past meno. If you happen to be on Tri-est or Bi-est, you may be experiencing the same problem with estradiol as I. According to my naturopath, some conversion to testosterone was going on.

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Interesting, Antonia! So you go to a naturapath for bioidentical hormones? I just don't know where to start!

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Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:48 am      Reply with quote
Hi Fawnie,

It's a tough one, isn't it? Are you in Canada? You can get your natural hormones from either an ND or an MD here in BC. I have a whole family of bald women except for myself and one sister. We both have relatively thick heads of very fine hair (you cannot see our scalps at all, just hair). I was quite shocked when mine began to fall out a few months ago as it was very dramatic and all over the floor. I suspected the natural estradiol right away as it was the only change I'd made and I could never stay on the Pill due to massive hair loss. DHEA also makes my hair fall, since it converts to testosterone. My ND said that the estradiol was somehow generating testosterone in conjunction with natural DHEA being produced in the body.

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Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:14 pm      Reply with quote
i have the same question with you,phyto shampoo is just what i want to try,does it work for hair loss?any other suggestion?
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Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:36 am      Reply with quote
my mother has suffered thining hair for years.

I do believe there is a link between famale pattern baldness and male hormones. I would get blood work and consult a doctor/ derm or naturapath or any nutritional concerns.

For personal tips, I would use a gentle shampoo, and wash only every 2- 3 days. Use a wide tooth comb and leave in conditoner as well as deep conditoner on the ends. Be gentle.
Don't rip or pull or wear tight head bands/ pony tails.
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Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:37 am      Reply with quote
my mother has suffered thining hair for years.

I do believe there is a link between famale pattern baldness and male hormones. I would get blood work and consult a doctor/ derm or naturapath or any nutritional concerns.

For personal tips, I would use a gentle shampoo, and wash only every 2- 3 days. Use a wide tooth comb and leave in conditoner as well as deep conditoner on the ends. Be gentle.
Don't rip or pull or wear tight head bands/ pony tails.
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Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:48 am      Reply with quote
The curse of fine, thinning has always plagued me (as well as my granny, mom and sister).

Existential lady, you mentioned MSM and Chondroitin. I wasn't sure what you were getting at. That it actually helped you? My experience has been quite different.

I started taking such a supplement (3x500 mg) last August and the top of my head was pretty much bald by October. I never linked the two.

Not wanting to pay for anything OTC, like Priorin or Florasil (which I have taken a few times since they came out and the results were always good in stopping hair fallout), I went back to my derm. She prescribed three different aminoacids (methionine, cysteine, cystine?) along with Regaine (minoxidil 5%).

This combination I have also tried a few times and it is OK, except that Regaine always gives me dry, itchy scalp, so I can't use it over long periods of time.

This time, however, it did nothing. My hair kept falling out, they were all over my place, the shower drain was always blocked and I looked balder than ever.
It was then that I read somewhere in this forum that MSM might have such a side-effect!

So, mid November I decided to go buy a bottle of Florasil. This contains some compound of silica. Silica was recommended once from a member in this forum and at that time I hadn't been able to find it in the local market.

Some time later I read a brochure at the chemist's about some new products imported from Canada and this Florasil was among them.

I tried it then and the results were amazing. The hair fallout stopped immediately, and within a month there were tons of young hairs growing. Also, my hair grew long faster than normal.

This time around it did just as good a job. My head looks full again and it doesn't fall out although I'm continuing with the MSM. No question that it is worth every penny. I'll keep it among my staples, like Vit. C.

So, having dealt with a similar hair problem most of my adult life, I would say that out of everything I have tried, silica has worked the best.

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Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:23 am      Reply with quote
I highly recommend a product called Triaxon. I started using it after ++ hair loss after my last baby. In Canada you can purchase it at theshoppingchannel, hths. Very Happy
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Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:29 pm      Reply with quote
lilolme, I am saying that the MSM in the product Joint Support at Trader Joe's has made my hair regrow. The new growth is about 1- 1 1/2 inches since April. It is very fine, like the rest of my hair, but it is new growth that was gone before for a long time, I suffered serious hair loss about a year or more ago and nothing helped, but this does.
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:47 am      Reply with quote
i find the DS Laboratories Product page on this website.they carry hair growth stimulating shampoos and treatments that work.anyone who has used it?i need some suggestion on it.
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:42 am      Reply with quote
lilyflower wrote:
i find the DS Laboratories Product page on this website.they carry hair growth stimulating shampoos and treatments that work.anyone who has used it?i need some suggestion on it.

DS Labs does produce 3 items accordingly for different user.
You can read the labels or instructions in skinstore.com sorts of websites.

I ever tried the one with Minoxidil and found it amazing to reinforce the normal growth of hair. However, no obvious improvement for thickening hair.
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:09 am      Reply with quote
Since heathy hair growth depends in part on a healthy scalp, you might be interested to know that Peter Thomas Roth is incorporating 2% glycolic acid in a hair conditioning product. Glycolic acid is an AHA and acts as a keratolytic agent (meaning it removes the topmost layers of skin, speeding up the skin renewal process). When applied to the scalp, it allows for a more uniform distribution of the natural scalp oils through the hair, and a more uniform distribution of the product. Glycolic acid formulations are not designed for the hair as much as they are for the scalp itself. (I just received this info from a raw cosmetic products supplier.)

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Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:51 pm      Reply with quote
My friend recommend Rogaine for me.
But I heard that, if the products you do not continue use it, the hair will start to lose.
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Yes, that is the only problem with Rogaine (assuming it works for you). Give it up and "plunk!"

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Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:24 am      Reply with quote
Dear alexol,
thank you for your suggestion, I will go to the site you mentioned. Does the product work for hair loss,and how about the texture and smell? does it have any side effects?I just want to look for something to prevent my hair loss.
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Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:54 am      Reply with quote
Have your thyroid checked and OHT D3 blood levels checked , I suffered from hair loss since I was in my early 20's , turn's out I was hypothyroid , and severely deficient in vitamin d , it has been 5 months since I treated my thyroid condition and 2 months on vitamin D3 and I am starting to see lots of baby hairs on my hair line and my hair loss is down to zero,
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nibn, I find what you just wrote about thyroid fascinating. My two sisters who are completely bald are on thyroid meds (recently went on it but they have been bald for 40 years). My other sister and I have hair. This sister's hair is thinning and she was just diagnosed with hypothyroid. My mum, her sis, and mother were also bald. So it looks like this baldness could be due to low thyroid hormones.

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Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:35 am      Reply with quote
I heard that LUSH New Cinnamon solid shampoo bar is good for those suffering from hormonal hair loss.
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Yep, to the hypothyroid issues, butonce that was delt with I still am looking for that product that will not only stop hair loss but encourage hoar growth. Currently I am using a coupl eof things I like that at least make my hair look thicker- Ojon's hydrating thickening shampoo, conditioner and spray. The other is White Oak Bark Herbal Shampoo, which is so totally different from anything else I have used. My hair is fine and prone to "flyaways" no problems with this shampoo. My usually limp hair also has a lot more body with this one. You apply it to your dry scalp and hair, let it sit awhile and then wash. It does not produce suds- so takes a little getting used to that your hair is getting clean. I am having less fallout each day with these products.
In the past I have liked Jason's. but have been happier with these two products. Yesterday I ordered a scalp dye- the idea is that by adding color to your scalp where the hair is thin it looks thicker- I read about it in BHG and decided to give it a whirl.

I totally understand the frustration of dealing with this issue- and who else here has to deal with trying to prevent sunburning the top of one's head- I hate to wear hats, especially when the best hat to keep on outdoors is a baseball cap- so much for femininity...

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