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Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:06 pm  |
I received my order of Obagi Nuderm Toner,Clear,and Blender. I also got my SuperCop and IS Clinical C-15 Serum about a month ago. This last order, EDS gave me a full size Obagi C cleansing gel (I love the free gifts from EDS!  ) so I am wondering if I am mixing products that are in conflict with each other.
I apologize for the long post. I am currently not under a dermatologist care, but had been prescribed Obagi in the past. I have normal skin, asian, late forties, basically good skin with light pigmentation but would love to get some firming since my cheeks are starting to droop down towards my mouth. I would appreciate if you can mention anything that is drastically wrong with my routine below or if I am using products that are counteracting each other. Or should i even consider adding something with DMAE on it on certain evenings?
AM Routine:
Obagi C Cleansing Gel
Obagi Nuderm Toner
IS Clinical C-15 serum
Avene Mineral Cream 50spf
PM Routine
Obagi C Cleansing Gel
Obagi Nuderm Toner
.1% Retin A with SuperCop
Obagi Routine on Alternate Mornings:
Obagi C Cleansing Gel
Obagi Nuderm Toner
Obagi Clear
Obagi Exfoderm
Avene Mineral Cream 50spf
Obagi Routine on Alternate Evenings:
Obagi C Cleansing Gel
Obagi Nuderm Toner
Obagi Clear
Obagi Blender with .1% Retin A
I also have a BQ and just bought the Ageless If You Dare book, which I need to use more consistently.
Thank you folks for your time. |
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Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:40 am |
| I have never heard of adding SuperCop to NuDerm. But if you look at the C Cleanser it is the same as the regular NuDerm Cleanser except for one added ingredient: ascorbic acid! That is the only additional ingredient. Apparantly the ascorbic acid lowers the pH of the cleanser, which is why there is no Toner necessary with the C system. So myself and some other people I know, just use the C cleanser, and I use no toner, since the pH is already low enough to forgo the toner. It saves a bit of money too. |
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Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:52 am |
| Drop the toner after your C Cleansing Gel. No toner is needed with that cleanser. |
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Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:20 am |
Check out Ageless if You Dare - a $10 facial exercise program that is already starting to eliminate the drooping of my cheeks.
I could see a decrease in my marionette lines within 30 days, and posted some improvement pics on this thread:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=31539 |
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Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:39 pm |
| amonavis wrote: |
| I have never heard of adding SuperCop to NuDerm. But if you look at the C Cleanser it is the same as the regular NuDerm Cleanser except for one added ingredient: ascorbic acid! That is the only additional ingredient. Apparantly the ascorbic acid lowers the pH of the cleanser, which is why there is no Toner necessary with the C system. So myself and some other people I know, just use the C cleanser, and I use no toner, since the pH is already low enough to forgo the toner. It saves a bit of money too. |
Thanks Amonavis and Rileygirl for the tip on dropping the toner after the C Cleansing gel. I could certainly use the savings, since I have been almost broke after I joined EDS. 
I wasn't adding supercop and Nuderm Blender. They are on different nights, but both mixed in with Retin A. Is Retin A under SuperCop a no-no? Or should I just skip the Retin A on the nights I use SuperCop? |
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Asian, fair-skin with slight yellowish tone, late forties, some freckles, normal skin that used to be a little oily but is now tend to be on the dry due to aspirin? |
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Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:01 pm |
| essq2w3e4r wrote: |
| I wasn't adding supercop and Nuderm Blender. They are on different nights, but both mixed in with Retin A. Is Retin A under SuperCop a no-no? Or should I just skip the Retin A on the nights I use SuperCop? |
I mix the RA and CPx2 occasionally myself. I don't see any problems with that. My only concern is the C in the cleanser with the CP, as there should be that 12 hr wait between C and CP. |
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Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:59 pm |
| rileygirl wrote: |
I mix the RA and CPx2 occasionally myself. I don't see any problems with that. My only concern is the C in the cleanser with the CP, as there should be that 12 hr wait between C and CP. |
I didn't know about the 12 hr wait between C and the CP. I'll change the cleanser when I am using the SuperCop. Thanks rileygirl!! |
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Asian, fair-skin with slight yellowish tone, late forties, some freckles, normal skin that used to be a little oily but is now tend to be on the dry due to aspirin? |
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Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:32 am |
| essq2w3e4r wrote: |
| I didn't know about the 12 hr wait between C and the CP. I'll change the cleanser when I am using the SuperCop. Thanks rileygirl!! |
No problem! Good luck.  |
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Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:16 pm |
| bethany wrote: |
Check out Ageless if You Dare - a $10 facial exercise program that is already starting to eliminate the drooping of my cheeks.
I could see a decrease in my marionette lines within 30 days, and posted some improvement pics on this thread:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=31539 |
I couldn't see your picture from the thread but it seems like you have a lot of success with the Ageless program. I purchased the download and also got Loulou's video. It's just that I am from the "don't touch the face generation" so it takes a while to unbrainwash me that it is ok to pull and tug on the skin.
Your success gives me hope and will definitely ease into the exercise program. (In fact, I did a couple last night  ). |
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Asian, fair-skin with slight yellowish tone, late forties, some freckles, normal skin that used to be a little oily but is now tend to be on the dry due to aspirin? |
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