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Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:42 pm |
Does anyone else do this? I do it 'cause it works. No lie. You've got to do it slowly-- don't take a huge gash out all at once. |
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Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:59 pm |
Please explain in more depth. Are you just shaving or taking skin off. Your wording has confused me. You said "don't take a huge gash out all at once". Are we talking removing skin but only a little at a time? |
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Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:16 am |
Frodo wrote: |
Please explain in more depth. Are you just shaving or taking skin off. Your wording has confused me. You said "don't take a huge gash out all at once". Are we talking removing skin but only a little at a time? |
Sorry about the above quote. I can't seem to turn on my HTML.
When I see a line starting, I use a regular shaver you can buy at the store and I start shaving it, getting a little bit of the skin. I let it heal and if it is still there, I shave it again. Of course, if you get too much skin, it will bleed, but you can cover it with make up. I have lately found that I need to use something called New Skin on the shaved part to keep it from pulling apart while it is healing (it is an antiseptic liquid bandage). It peels after a while so you need to keep an eye on it. Of course you need to put make up on a scab if there is one there.
I got a book from Rachel Perry about 8 years ago and she said that she was convinced that men didn't have lip lines because they shaved. I forget her complete explanation, but it had to do with exfoliation. Anyway, she said that women shouldn't do it, but I do it anyway. Heck, it's my lip! |
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Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:18 am |
InkyProse wrote: |
Frodo wrote: |
Please explain in more depth. Are you just shaving or taking skin off. Your wording has confused me. You said "don't take a huge gash out all at once". Are we talking removing skin but only a little at a time? |
Sorry about the above quote. I can't seem to turn on my HTML.
When I see a line starting, I use a regular shaver you can buy at the store and I start shaving it, getting a little bit of the skin. I let it heal and if it is still there, I shave it again. Of course, if you get too much skin, it will bleed, but you can cover it with make up. I have lately found that I need to use something called New Skin on the shaved part to keep it from pulling apart while it is healing (it is an antiseptic liquid bandage). It peels after a while so you need to keep an eye on it. Of course you need to put make up on a scab if there is one there.
I got a book from Rachel Perry about 8 years ago and she said that she was convinced that men didn't have lip lines because they shaved. I forget her complete explanation, but it had to do with exfoliation. Anyway, she said that women shouldn't do it, but I do it anyway. Heck, it's my lip! |
Also, the New Skin burns if it is put directly on raw meat, so I put some beeswax-type stuff on it first. |
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Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:35 am |
I have read that book, and your right Rachel Perry does think men don't get the dread lines because of shaving, and I am afraid I don't necessarily think this is true for the majority of women. Its also partly because males have thicker skins, and their hormone system (just think testorone and the like) is somewhat different than you ladies (but you knew that already). Also men rarely use the amount of products on their lips that women do, so most times their lips are able to hydrate themselves naturally very well because of many different factors.
Having said that, I do know of many people experimenting with shaving their entire facial areas as a means of exfoliating who swear by it.... and like most things, if you believe it works for you... it probably will! |
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Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:40 am |
There's been a number of threads on the Forum about shaving the face - and yes, some members believe it's an excellent way of exfoliating the skin. However, I've never heard of anyone actually purposely stripping off pieces of skin. I'm sure the idea is to remove dead skin cells, not to actually remove the skin. |
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Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:45 am |
I agree with you Keliu, but I don't think that in shaving the face the idea is to strip the skin off completely, but as you say, remove the older skin cells, and thus encourage the body to regenerate and make newer ones. However, I have to confess, I don't shave my entire face (but I am a guy so shave my beard region), but I'm always open to hearing these things. Sometimes there are gems out there! |
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Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:09 am |
I think it's just sick and totally gross.
someone "thinking" something is true doesn't make it true. And it's not supported by any scientific evidence!
men have different biology, different skin - theirs doesn't stretch , they don't bear babies, where as we get stretched bellies
Just sick imho! masochistic approach |
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Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:12 am |
Well although I don't think its 100% true, I don't think I would label it as "sick" or "gross", as I know some women who swear by it.
Actually science hasn't been able to prove everything out there to date, but I think its interesting to hear others views and then make an informed decision based on that.
I agree with you though, and thats often been my argument, that men have different biology. |
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Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:34 am |
zverenok wrote: |
I think it's just sick and totally gross. |
I won't go that far but I must say that it's unusual!! Inky, do you find that this technique has made you more susceptible to cold sores? I have that book as well and my take is that Ms. Perry was just using this example to illustrate the benefits of exfoliation. There was never any mention of cutting oneself. You'll find that a nice sugar scrub works wonderfully for this as well. But, hey, if it's working for you... |
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Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:57 am |
On the one hand i appreciate that you have found something that works for you..even though it is a bit unusual....
on the other hand..even though it's been effective up to now for you...and your skin has responded well by the methods/creams you use to heal any 'wounding' that may occur ....it well may be 'one of those(unusual) things' that work well for you..but may not for someone else...who may be scarred by the procedure. |
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Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:33 pm |
Yeah, I've been shaving my face for 18 or so years NOT for hair removal (and wouldn't do it if I had hair on my face) but for exfoliation benefits. I personally think its a best kept beauty secret but still too shocking and taboo to be out "in the open." Unfortunately it has not kept upper lip lines from forming! That I can thank for my 10 years (past) as a smoker. |
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Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:46 pm |
mountaingirl wrote: |
Yeah, I've been shaving my face for 18 or so years NOT for hair removal (and wouldn't do it if I had hair on my face) but for exfoliation benefits |
Note: InkyProse is neither shaving her face for hair removal nor for exfoliation - she is actually shaving off the skin on her upper lip for wrinkle removal. |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:54 am |
Keliu wrote: |
mountaingirl wrote: |
Yeah, I've been shaving my face for 18 or so years NOT for hair removal (and wouldn't do it if I had hair on my face) but for exfoliation benefits |
Note: InkyProse is neither shaving her face for hair removal nor for exfoliation - she is actually shaving off the skin on her upper lip for wrinkle removal. |
aye yi yi!--that sounds over the edge!! |
_________________ Vehicle is a 1952 scratch and dent model....olive-ish, dry skin, long curly gray hair. Staples: Tazorac, 2mm Dermaroller, Anti Aging Light Stim, Devita Sunscreens, homemade C serums, some positive affirmations and whatever else it takes! Kicking and screaming the whole way... |
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Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:08 am |
Agree with the poster above, thats going a little too far in my opinion and I'm not convinced its necessary but if its working for her, then I suppose she may not be alone?
Keliu wrote: |
mountaingirl wrote: |
Yeah, I've been shaving my face for 18 or so years NOT for hair removal (and wouldn't do it if I had hair on my face) but for exfoliation benefits |
Note: InkyProse is neither shaving her face for hair removal nor for exfoliation - she is actually shaving off the skin on her upper lip for wrinkle removal. |
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Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:39 am |
I have had a microdermabrasion treatment that used a blade to shave my face. I cringed at the treatment and couldn't wait for it to end. I never went back to that spa. This only removed dead cells it did NOT shave off skin. That seems extreme to me.
It's amazing what some of us will do for looks!! |
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Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:48 pm |
I don't get it. Why wouldn't you do it if you had hair on your face?
mountaingirl wrote: |
Yeah, I've been shaving my face for 18 or so years NOT for hair removal (and wouldn't do it if I had hair on my face) but for exfoliation benefits. I personally think its a best kept beauty secret but still too shocking and taboo to be out "in the open." Unfortunately it has not kept upper lip lines from forming! That I can thank for my 10 years (past) as a smoker. |
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Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:58 am |
^^Maybe she'd be worried the new hair would grow back thicker or darker. Which is a myth, it dosent. |
_________________ 39, in Australia, using retin a, Skin actives I Bright and Antiaging Cream, change sunscreen regularly currently. |
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Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:59 am |
I actually found when i lightly removed some hair from my upper lip once that the fine lines on top lip looked more noticeable |
_________________ 39, in Australia, using retin a, Skin actives I Bright and Antiaging Cream, change sunscreen regularly currently. |
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Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:43 am |
Carol,
You have to get some of the skin with it.
It would probably be a good idea to put vitamin E oil on it afterward too.
Inky. |
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Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:03 pm |
Inky,
I'm game, but how do you judge how deep to go?
I'm not the least bit squeamish - I've removed skin tags and flat moles myself. (Mind over matter & just get it done, I say.) |
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Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:12 pm |
Before a facial a few years ago, the lady shaved my face with a straight razor. She called it Dermaplanning, and said it would help exfoliate my skin. My boyfriend asked that I never shave my face in front of him. |
_________________ 46 yrs old, I live at the beach and love being out in the sun. |
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Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:59 pm |
I dont think id go that far. Retin a seems to have pretty much erased fine lines anyway. |
_________________ 39, in Australia, using retin a, Skin actives I Bright and Antiaging Cream, change sunscreen regularly currently. |
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Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:01 pm |
Hi Fawnie,
It's kind of hard to explain-- I use a new, good quality razor and shave the upper lip just like a man would. I make sure I get about the top layer of skin off. Then I usually put on vit E Oil. If the line is deep and has been neglected for a while, I'll put on some vit. E wax that I have (Reviva for lips), and then put the liquid bandage on it so it doesn't split again. The liquid bandage burns on cuts, that is why I put the wax on first. If I get the split soon enough, I can wipe it off. I have one spot that I've neglected and can't seem to totally eliminate, but you can only see it if you look at it in a certain angle in the sun.
I've been reading the Dermaroller thread and it explains how purposefully damaging your skin causes collagen growth and other neato things to occur. I think I'm going to try to Dermaroll hat spot on my lip that can't be erased.
Rachel Perry said that she was convinced that men didn't get lines on their lips because they shave.
Be patient if you have deep lines. Just scratch the surface off, let it heal, and then scratch again. Sometimes you go too deep, but it heals and looks better afterwards. |
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Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:05 pm |
Chrissie,
I actually saw a razor advertised the other day that was for exfoliation. They used it on the lady's face. I wouldn't do that. I got cocky and shaved part of my face and it accelerated the lines in that area! I would only do my upper lip. Maybe the skin is thicker on the upper lip or something, but it heals up just fine.
Inky. |
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