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Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:28 pm  |
I went to a local food store or they are called health store and I'm sort of put off with the plastic packaging on natural skin care products. If you take a look at some of Dr. H line, some of it is in plastic. I think Decleor is not packaged in plastic with their Aromessence line.
This all got started when I was looking to buy another jojoba oil or wheat germ or almond oil....there're all packaged in plastic! Wouldn't the quality and purity of these oils be best kept in glass? Does any Canadians know of a name brand that is sold in retail stores where they are packaged in glass? |
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havana8
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:40 pm |
Off the top of my head, Stem Organics, Susanne aux Bains and Seaflora all use glass bottles. The floral waters from Primavera also came in glass bottles.
I prefer glass too.
ETA: actually, the body oil from Susanne was glass and the bath bliss was plastic |
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:00 pm |
Why do you think that glass waste is better than plastic ???
Plastic is easy to recycle.
The reuse of glass is complex (due to hygiene, food and skin care safety, etc.). If you compare the weight : the same product in glass have more packaging weight, than the same in plastic. Plastic can be burnt and we can get back at least part of the energy (and use for heating, etc.), needed for it's processing.
Also there are lots of people (i.e. those with small kids) they don't want to have glass in their bathroom.
Plus some products need light protection, so you can't put them in glass. So don't generalize: plastic is not always the worst solution. |
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:01 pm |
I know essential oils eat through plastic, so they should only be in glass.
I am not aware of other differences in freshness or quality between glass or plastic packaging, but that does not mean differences do not exist. |
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:56 pm |
| lin23 wrote: |
Why do you think that glass waste is better than plastic ???
Plastic is easy to recycle.
The reuse of glass is complex (due to hygiene, food and skin care safety, etc.). If you compare the weight : the same product in glass have more packaging weight, than the same in plastic. Plastic can be burnt and we can get back at least part of the energy (and use for heating, etc.), needed for it's processing.
Also there are lots of people (i.e. those with small kids) they don't want to have glass in their bathroom.
Plus some products need light protection, so you can't put them in glass. So don't generalize: plastic is not always the worst solution. |
Hi lin23! Burning plastic is not healthy for the employees who work there; it pollutes the air and I've seen some wild animals swallow small pieces of plastic that been dumbed in parks or anywhere in public. They can't swallow or even attempt to swallow small pieces of glass.
My SO told me that you can't get rid of plastic and with glass, you can use it again.
Thanks Havana8, I am in the process of searching each brand on the net right now. 
Overall, I'm just concerned that purchasing jojoba or wheat germ oil contained in a plastic bottle with lights and sunlight heat up and it seems to soften the plastic container at the store, and I can't help but wonder if it does affect the oil that I would eventually put on my eyes or my skin. |
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havana8
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:12 pm |
| Saaf is another one that uses glass. It looks like Red Flower might also use glass although I can't say for sure. Oh, and doesn't Suki use glass for most of her line? |
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:17 pm |
| havana8 wrote: |
| Saaf is another one that uses glass. It looks like Red Flower might also use glass although I can't say for sure. Oh, and doesn't Suki use glass for most of her line? |
You are right! But do they sell 100% jojoba and wheat germ or almond oil in glass? |
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:23 pm |
| havana8 wrote: |
| Saaf is another one that uses glass. It looks like Red Flower might also use glass although I can't say for sure. Oh, and doesn't Suki use glass for most of her line? |
Just wanted to confirm that in my experience Suki does use glass mostly -- at least for the body oil and the lemon sugar scrub. Just looked at their website, and it seems everything is in glass; a quote:
"our glass packaging ensures a healthier planet. we are against the use of plastics & avoid this toxic material whenever possible; not only do plastic toxins leach into products & leach out essential vitamins & botanical content, it is toxic to get rid of, unfortunately, recycling programs are deeply flawed." |
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havana8
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:44 pm |
| Skincare wrote: |
| havana8 wrote: |
| Saaf is another one that uses glass. It looks like Red Flower might also use glass although I can't say for sure. Oh, and doesn't Suki use glass for most of her line? |
You are right! But do they sell 100% jojoba and wheat germ or almond oil in glass? |
That I am not sure about.
I did see Primavera has straight Jojoba Oil. You could ring the store to confirm the container is glass.
http://www.saffronrouge.com/primavera/plant-base-oils/primavera-organic-jojoba-oil |
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:45 pm |
| I think many of the Jurlique products are in glass bottles. (and they are nice to look at too!) |
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Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:11 pm |
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| I think many of the Jurlique products are in glass bottles. (and they are nice to look at too!) |
Thank you for reminding me of that! I totally forgot. The packaging is really good and I used to buy one of their oils that I slathered on before I went swimming in a pool to protect my skin. It really worked! |
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Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:37 am |
havana8, I really loved Saffron web-site. EDS sell some of those products, for example, Dr. H, Jurlique, ets, but this web-site provides better information on what would be good for you skin type. It also has this easy to read list of oils that would be appropriate for your skin type.
Thank you |
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Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:20 am |
From a different perspective, i prefer glass because it's so much better for DIY-ing. I find it easier to clean and also, then, i can pop glass jars, bottles etc into a low oven to sterilise them. I am never quite 100% sure i have sterilised plastic containers properly because you can only really do that by immersing them in boiling water and it never seems quite enough somehow. i also make my own jam, lemon curd etc using glass jars and it's great to be able to just throw them in the oven and know they'll be sterile
Also, i believe glass can be better for certain things (for instance essential oils) because you can have a dark coloured glass which shields the product inside from sun damage. Although, i know you can get double-walled plastic pots which may do the job just as well. |
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Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:57 am |
When my old italian neighbors made homemade tomato sauce, they would boil their glass jars to kill any bacteria.
BTW, I love collection old glass jars and vase. They are so beautiful and unique. |
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Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:34 am |
I believe for many EOs or aromatherapy concoctions they only recommend glass (and dark one to protect from light), sort of the same way they sell good organic olive oil. Plastics are also not created equal, recycle number kind of reflects it's out-gassing properties. So, the drinking water is usually in the plastic containers, and some of them are good and some are not.
There are also plastic containers that do protect from light and do not outgass ( Violite containers, that block light between 450-720 nm). I get my supplements packaged in them, but I could not find where to buy them to store skin care in.
Just my 2 cents. |
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Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:58 pm |
| I buy oils bulk from liberty natural products. They package in glass, but they have a $50 minimum so that's not for everyone. |
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:34 am |
| Oil can slowly dissolve plastic...I sitll prefer glass jars |
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:07 am |
| Aesop's products are in glass bottles. |
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:37 am |
For those who wonder, glass is enviromentally friendly, and degrades waay faster and without the pollution that plastic creates. Plastic can survived for thousand of years, and is a pollutant - there are many reasons listed above - animals eat it, get strangled in it, it requires more sophisticated and expensive processing to recycle plastic, whereas glass is easy, is cleaner, is better for food and oil products etc etc.
Having said that, I never purchase my supplies from local health stores as theirs is so overpriced.
I buy from a reputable wholesaler and they do ship in plastic pales. I reuse those if I can, but I have purchase a set of glass bottles and jars that I use to store my supplies. |
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:02 am |
| sometimes plastic is preferred over glass when ordering online for safety reasons; i.e risk of breakage, etc |
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:23 pm |
exactly. plus it's cost efficient for suppliers.
When I get my supplies - I store them in glass containers.
So the quality of the product doesn't depend on container - exception of course are essential oils - those have to be in glass containers.
sometimes for small quantity fixed oils I don't transfer them into glass, but keeping it in the fridge does the trick. |
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:27 pm |
| darphin uses glass for everything too! |
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:35 pm |
| and I am sure you pay the price! |
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:38 pm |
| You have a good point! They say some plastics "seep" which is probably why the glass. I wonder if some kinds of plastics seep less? NaturDerm products, I know the Epidermx II, Chrysalyx and Naturdermx are in glass. EDS has these products, my favorite paraben free organic anti aging products!www.greatnewskin.com does, and they are very helpful, they ship to Canada. |
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:54 pm |
| had you ever got sent a sample from eds or others in a glass container or vial? |
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