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Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:12 pm      Reply with quote
I just thought to post this...

Yesterday morning I awoke and my eyes were basically going back and forth like they would during REM sleep. I had no control over them. It stopped after maybe 30 seconds - I got up and just felt liek I would vomit.

I went back to bed and my eyes did the same thing as soon as I laid down.

I went to the ER and the dr said it was probably vertigo.

I did post here a few months ago that my eyes were pulsating from the exercises(that has stopped).

I was just curious - Im sure it is vertigo - i just dont know if working these eye muscles could have had anything to do with it???

Not sure if anyone here is a nurse or would have any idea on this matter.
Thanks for any input...
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:14 pm      Reply with quote
OMG, that sounds scary.
I have no idea but I just want to wish you getting back to normal soon.
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:56 pm      Reply with quote
How very interesting, mb935. Have you continued on with the eye exercises or have you stopped them? And, are your eyes still going back and forth like that?
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:34 pm      Reply with quote
Thats odd. I have had vertigo and its nothing like that. Maybe get a second opinion. I have been misdiagnosed many times by doctors.

I hope you keep feeling better and its just a fluke.

Sul
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:43 pm      Reply with quote
Wow... MB... that is the first time I've ever heard of that...

so the Dr. thinks it's vertigo...

Here is the Wiki on that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertigo_(medical)

There are lots of freaky things on the web that have your symptom... however, given that you and Dr. think vertigo... Labyrinthistis is where I'd start... and I'd have a f/u exam with my Dr. (I'm not a Dr. and would want a better comprehension)

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003037.htm#Common%20Causes

From the quick reading I just did... vertigo that is directly related to the eye... seems to have more to do with a neurological issue... Generally, I've only seen it in people who have an inner ear issue.

I can't even imagine how working the muscles on your face would effect your eyeball and how it moves... The muscles that move your eyeballs are behind your eye as best as I understand... You shouldn't be "working" them during facial exercise...

The thing I would GUESS at... I can see applying pressure to your sinuses... and perhaps causing fluid to move toward your inner ear... perhaps causing an imbalance that way...

I do know that when I'm sick, a facial massage can help release sinus pressure... generally, that causes me to blow my nose...

That's my best guess...

Regardless, you should talk further with a Dr. to rule out anything more scary... and share the fact that you do exercises..... so that you can put your mind to rest...

Best!

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Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:44 pm      Reply with quote
Hi I just did some research. You may want to look this up and then see your regular doc. I have been to the emergency room and had the docs blow me off and minimize my symptoms sadly.

Its may be nystagmus. Look it up and see if that fits your symptoms.

Please see your regular doc if you can. Its better to have someone check this out in depth I think.

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Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:00 pm      Reply with quote
mb935 wrote:
Not sure if anyone here is a nurse or would have any idea on this matter.
Thanks for any input...


I would definitely hold off on any exercises for the time being until you get this figured out.

And I sure hope you're feeling better!!

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Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:17 am      Reply with quote
This totally sounds like the inner ear problem my dad experienced 25 years ago.
He ended up being hospitalized for good 5-7 days until the other two balance centres (brain and joints) took over and he was able to open his eyes without vomiting. He was back on his feet within 10 days, but couldn't drive (was not allowed to) for 4 months or so.

I would totally go for second opinion.

Good luck.

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Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:34 am      Reply with quote
Thanks for all your opinions and research you guys did!!!! Im at work now and will look further into some of the info found later.

Yeah this Dr really didnt listen to me - i told him it happened on both sides as I turned in bed. He just kept talking over me that it was an inner ear thing (vertigo) and to just switch sides. When he FINALLY heard what I was saying - he really didnt give me an answer. Thank God I have insurance - to think what I would be paying to have a Dr give me a half-a$$ diagnosis. I did have a catscan though - which makes me feel better knowing they at least looked to make sure it wasnt serious.

He said to make an appointment with an Ear/Nose/Throat Dr. So Ill do that.

I should say I do get dizzy quite often - so vertigo may be possible - but never have I lost control of my eyeballs and it only happened while laying down.

I guess that would make sense that Im not exercising those particular muscles. I just thought since I had issues with my eye lids pulsating a few weeks ago that maybe I was doing something wrong somewhere in that region.

It hasnt happened since though...

Thanks again - really appreciate it!!!
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Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:53 am      Reply with quote
Glad to hear you're feeling better MB... I really don't expect that exercises are the culprit. However, it does sound like you're being quite aggressive... so maybe go lighter if you decide to keep them up... and take quality notes of all changes/reactions... They may be weak muscles... take care of yourself...

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Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:17 am      Reply with quote
mb935 wrote:

He said to make an appointment with an Ear/Nose/Throat Dr. So Ill do that.

I should say I do get dizzy quite often - so vertigo may be possible - but never have I lost control of my eyeballs and it only happened while laying down.



Please make an appointment ASAP with an Opthamologist (MD, Specialist for diseases of the eye, not an Optometrist who you go to for glasses.)

The symptom you are having when lying down, indicates 'increased intraocular pressure'... The Opthamologist will give you a thorough look behind your eye, and will diagnose or rule out what is causing your problem... There are many forms of Glaucoma, some of which can cause the symptom you describe..and that's just one possibility. Or perhaps it's as simple as being too over zealous with the exercise, which caused significant inflammation and/or swelling.. There are many things that could be causing your symptoms, so a good thorough exam really is indicated..

Here's what you'll be asked;

- When did it start
- Is it constant or intermittent
- Do you have pain, if yes where, and how intense on a scale of 1 to 10
- What are 'all' the symptoms
- Did it come on abruptly, or were the symptoms gradual
- Family history (especially for Glaucoma, Diabetes, Retinopathy etc.)

It's unfortunate that the ER Doc didn't advise you better... Argh!

RN (happily retired.. Very Happy )

disclaimer; my post is not meant to diagnose, but simply advise that further evaluation by an MD is warranted.

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Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:58 pm      Reply with quote
Ive been ok - thanks for asking Bethany.

I was slightly dizzy for the few days following but have felt much better the last 2 days.

Today however I did go to the gyncologist who did a blood test and said I may have diabetes and anemia (who knew Id get that diagnosis there). I still have to look up the info you guys suggested too out of curiosity.

I have been drinking A LOT lately too. I went for a walk eariler and for the 1st tiem couldnt wait to get home - had to buy a bottle.

SO tomorrow im making an appointment with my family doctor to get everything checked thru bloodwork.

Thank God I only work PT - Id be losing money making time for all these dr visits. Smile

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Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:03 pm      Reply with quote
Yikes...keep us posted! And please take it easy until you get everything worked out!

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