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do you use ADCE AND c serum and argireline product?
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Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:47 am      Reply with quote
I am a bit confused and hoping someone can help.

I'm going to order ADCE and Okusil from jansen-Beckett but am wondering if you still use a vit C serum or if that is included in the ADCE?

Also becasue ADCE and Okusil contain argirline does that mean I do not need to use a product like Relaxaline or should I still?

One last question..(sorry) has anyone tried a product with both argireline AND Matrixyl that they really like?
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Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:50 am      Reply with quote
Hi Lily,
Technically you should not need relax because AD/CE has the 10% arg in it. But I feel that I get a better result using the relax but Winnie swears by AD/CE. I would wait see how you get on with the AC/DE then if you are not happy with crows feet & forehead splash out on relax.
I think the AD has vit C but as I have separate C I am using that as well. I expect that is as clear as mud.

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Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:24 pm      Reply with quote
Hi Lily,

AlphaDermaCE has 5% vit. C. I was concerned about this so I asked JB. I find that I do not need an added vit. C. My best advice is when you call them to order talk about your particular needs. You can speak to a facialist. In my case, they told me that I did not need the added vit. C. They also sell vit. C in their salon products. If you are not getting their Prep perhaps they can send you a sample.

I don't know whether Lori saw that you wanted to try Okusil. I suggest you go to the JB website and read the ingredients of Okusil. Then you can also read ingredients of Relax. and go from there. Both companies have a good reputation on this forum.

To answer you other question: If you use Okusil you don't need Relaxaline and vice/versa.

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