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Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:49 am      Reply with quote
I just got this and noticed that the instructions say to use as a mask and rinse off or leave on. How is everyone using this product?
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Rileygirl, I use it in a couple of different ways. I do 50% glycolic peels and lots of times use Let's Make Collagen immediately afterward underneath a lipid barrier replacement cream. I also use this as an ingredient in my own creams; it's great for that - makes it very easy to use all of those actives without purchasing each one individually. At one point, I was using this and several other SAS products, layered one on top of the other - but if you do this, it's best to wait 20 mintues between applications of products and I am a bit too impatient for that. However, it's a great product and is especially good mixed in the palm with a few drops of your favorite oil. HTH! ~ JJ

P.S. I have never just used as a mask & rinsed off. Smile
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Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:10 am      Reply with quote
Thank you, jjbeacham. That does help a lot!
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Hi rileygirl - I do use this several times a week under my moisturizer and make up and let it soak in for a while before anything else goes on top of it. I don't wash it off like a mask. It appears to help but find it is drying to the skin which is why the moisturizer goes on top of it. DiPhx

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Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:08 pm      Reply with quote
I use it on my face and body before I go to bed, but I will apply about 30 minutes before because it feels sticky on my skin. I'll apply emu oil over it on my face, neck and hands.
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Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:21 pm      Reply with quote
Thanks for the tips, everyone.

I applied it, let is sit for a while before I put moisturizer on top. It is dry feeling to me, as well, DiPhx.

Has anyone noticed any difference in using this?
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Has anyone noticed any difference in using this?


Definitely! I am very low on product so I can only use on my face now, and I really think my body skin is looking worse. Plus I notice my face looks less plump and fresh if I miss a night.
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Definitely! I am very low on product so I can only use on my face now, and I really think my body skin is looking worse. Plus I notice my face looks less plump and fresh if I miss a night.


Thanks, txgirl. Can you tell me how long it took approximately before you noticed anything? (Do you have a gallon jug of this to use on your body? Very Happy)
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I have used this occassionally and let it dry then apply my moisturiser. For me it clears the skin nicely, I would probably use it more though I dont love the texture a bit to gritty for me to use daily. But a definite repurchase worthy product.
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txgirl wrote:
Definitely! I am very low on product so I can only use on my face now, and I really think my body skin is looking worse. Plus I notice my face looks less plump and fresh if I miss a night.


Thanks, txgirl. Can you tell me how long it took approximately before you noticed anything? (Do you have a gallon jug of this to use on your body? Very Happy)


I would say I started to notice a change in about a week. Nothing too drastic, but skin was more plump and definitely softer. I can notice the change now that I don't have enough for my body Sad If I miss a night on my face, I really notice a more tired, drained look. I have to say I do love this stuff, and I can only imagine the results after 3-6 months.

I buy the largest bottle (I think it's 8 oz ?). It's really not that expensive in the scheme of what you're getting, and I think next time around I'm going to either alternate or layer with the dream cream. I originally alternated with skin biology P&R copper lotion, but I'm almost out of that, too!
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Hi everyone - I use the LMC about every other night and alternate with SAS 4% DMAE serum.
This combination seems to work for my skin. it keeps skin plumped and may help with the sagging a little bit. Also use a DIY antiox moisturizer over it. Those things along with the TV and AAlightstim have been doing the trick so far as I'm in my late 50's. Lately I've noticed more issues with my neck sagging and the round rings showing up more so will have to look into that next! Have to admit we
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help us and it appears the technology keeps on coming! DiPhx

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I would say I started to notice a change in about a week. Nothing too drastic, but skin was more plump and definitely softer. I can notice the change now that I don't have enough for my body Sad If I miss a night on my face, I really notice a more tired, drained look. I have to say I do love this stuff, and I can only imagine the results after 3-6 months.

I buy the largest bottle (I think it's 8 oz ?). It's really not that expensive in the scheme of what you're getting, and I think next time around I'm going to either alternate or layer with the dream cream. I originally alternated with skin biology P&R copper lotion, but I'm almost out of that, too!


Thanks, txgirl. I am wanting to try the dream cream, as well. I got the dermal respiratory product (I don't remember the exact name) and I don't have anything to add it into!

I have been using this every morning now since I asked the question. I don't think I notice anything visible, but I really like the product and hope in a few months something will kick in!

Thanks for the reply, DiPhx. That sounds great for keeping the skin plump and helping sagging. I only have a tiny bit of sag at the jawline, but I don't want it to get any worse!
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Rileygirl, re slight sagging at the jawline - I eliminated mine when I got into drybrushing the face and neck. I think lots of times the beginning of sagging goes hand in hand with the accumulation of toxins. That seemed so for me, at any rate. Drybrushing seems to clear that out and really tightened up my entire jawline and thickened up my skin. I bought a Bernard Jensen Complexion Brush on Amazon (natural bristle), but I found it too harsh. The brush to my Clarisonic actually works the best for me. I brush dry skin, going in circular movements on the face as if polishing something, and brush up and out on the neck, and back along the jawline. It's made all the difference - sagging is gone. HTH! ~ JJ
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I have to add that I am unsure why I only use this on and off. I used it last night after I picked at my skin and I tell you honestly my skin looks so my better the next morning with this product then ANYTHING else I have ever used. It really speeds up the healing. Damn that texture, but then really once I rub/press it in the gritty bits disappear anyway. Hmm I need to have a serious chat to myself! Laughing
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Rileygirl, re slight sagging at the jawline - I eliminated mine when I got into drybrushing the face and neck. I think lots of times the beginning of sagging goes hand in hand with the accumulation of toxins. That seemed so for me, at any rate. Drybrushing seems to clear that out and really tightened up my entire jawline and thickened up my skin. I bought a Bernard Jensen Complexion Brush on Amazon (natural bristle), but I found it too harsh. The brush to my Clarisonic actually works the best for me. I brush dry skin, going in circular movements on the face as if polishing something, and brush up and out on the neck, and back along the jawline. It's made all the difference - sagging is gone. HTH! ~ JJ

JJ,
What a genius idea to use your clarisonic brush-do you use the regular bristles? or the soft bristle head? And for how long do you brush?
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Rileygirl, re slight sagging at the jawline - I eliminated mine when I got into drybrushing the face and neck. I think lots of times the beginning of sagging goes hand in hand with the accumulation of toxins. That seemed so for me, at any rate. Drybrushing seems to clear that out and really tightened up my entire jawline and thickened up my skin. I bought a Bernard Jensen Complexion Brush on Amazon (natural bristle), but I found it too harsh. The brush to my Clarisonic actually works the best for me. I brush dry skin, going in circular movements on the face as if polishing something, and brush up and out on the neck, and back along the jawline. It's made all the difference - sagging is gone. HTH! ~ JJ


Thank you so much, JJ. I appreciate all the info. I don't have the Clarisonic. Do you think any soft brush would work? How long do you do this for - meaning just a quick brushing or are you spending some time doing this?
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I tell you honestly my skin looks so my better the next morning with this product then ANYTHING else I have ever used.


I have definitely noticed a nice glow with using this product. I went a day without it, and I did not feel my face looked as good, which is strange as I haven't been using the LMC that long. I have been using this in the morning, as I am not sure I would want to apply it before my Retin A!
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Rileygirl, re slight sagging at the jawline - I eliminated mine when I got into drybrushing the face and neck. I think lots of times the beginning of sagging goes hand in hand with the accumulation of toxins. That seemed so for me, at any rate. Drybrushing seems to clear that out and really tightened up my entire jawline and thickened up my skin. I bought a Bernard Jensen Complexion Brush on Amazon (natural bristle), but I found it too harsh. The brush to my Clarisonic actually works the best for me. I brush dry skin, going in circular movements on the face as if polishing something, and brush up and out on the neck, and back along the jawline. It's made all the difference - sagging is gone. HTH! ~ JJ


I think that's the same theory behind the lymph massage I'm doing for the double chin. It really does help.
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I think that's the same theory behind the lymph massage I'm doing for the double chin. It really does help.


Thanks, Skippie. I tried the lymphatic drainage (like on the one video) and was regular about it, but I did not see much from it so I did not continue. Maybe I will try the dry brushing and the lymphatic drainage!
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jjbeacham wrote:
Rileygirl, re slight sagging at the jawline - I eliminated mine when I got into drybrushing the face and neck. I think lots of times the beginning of sagging goes hand in hand with the accumulation of toxins. That seemed so for me, at any rate. Drybrushing seems to clear that out and really tightened up my entire jawline and thickened up my skin. I bought a Bernard Jensen Complexion Brush on Amazon (natural bristle), but I found it too harsh. The brush to my Clarisonic actually works the best for me. I brush dry skin, going in circular movements on the face as if polishing something, and brush up and out on the neck, and back along the jawline. It's made all the difference - sagging is gone. HTH! ~ JJ

JJ,
What a genius idea to use your clarisonic brush-do you use the regular bristles? or the soft bristle head? And for how long do you brush?
Many Thanks!
Maria


Hi, Maria! I have the regular bristles, not the one for sensitive skin. Even this took a bit of getting used to. But now, it's as if my skin craves it. I brush both face and neck for about two minutes or less, very little time, really. I do it morning and night after washing and drying my face/neck. I wait about 15 minutes and then drybrush. If you don't use much product, you can drybrush before washing. The only thing to be very careful of is to NOT drybrush if you have any pimples as brushing would spread the bacteria.

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jjbeacham wrote:
Rileygirl, re slight sagging at the jawline - I eliminated mine when I got into drybrushing the face and neck. I think lots of times the beginning of sagging goes hand in hand with the accumulation of toxins. That seemed so for me, at any rate. Drybrushing seems to clear that out and really tightened up my entire jawline and thickened up my skin. I bought a Bernard Jensen Complexion Brush on Amazon (natural bristle), but I found it too harsh. The brush to my Clarisonic actually works the best for me. I brush dry skin, going in circular movements on the face as if polishing something, and brush up and out on the neck, and back along the jawline. It's made all the difference - sagging is gone. HTH! ~ JJ


Thank you so much, JJ. I appreciate all the info. I don't have the Clarisonic. Do you think any soft brush would work? How long do you do this for - meaning just a quick brushing or are you spending some time doing this?


Rileygirl, any soft brush would work. Even a baby's hairbrush would be great for drybrushing. Sally Beauty Supply online has one that would be perfect: http://www.sallybeauty.com/Baby-Bristle-Brush/SBS-345671,default,pd.html . I brush for about two minutes. Just long enough to really "polish" the face and move the skin on the neck and jawline toward the lymph nodes. I brush morning and night. ~ JJ
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Thans so much, JJ. I appreciate your help! Very Happy
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Riley, you're so welcome. I started this in early June, and by the second week of July, my jawline was totally sag-free and razor-sharp. I can honestly say that my skin is now at least four times thicker than it was before drybrushing. I also do facial exercises, and when I get a grip now, the difference is unbelievable. I'm still a bit shocked by it myself, because I don't think I would have believed there was something you could do that would make that much difference while also being pain-free and costing nothing! ~ JJ
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Wow, I know there are threads about dry-brushing the body & the effects it gives (No-Lipo-Lipo) -but the idea of using my Clarisonic will make it so much easier!
Thank you so much for your specifics!
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Maria, just to be clear - you are going to use only the brush part, not the actual Clarisonic. Just hold the round brush in your hand and use mild pressure at first. If you do this twice daily, I guarantee you will notice quite a change very soon. JJ Smile
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