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Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:41 pm  |
Just wondering, who if anyone here agrees with me that Dr. Mehmet Oz rocks!! I can't wait to watch his show everyday, that man is a great dr....and person, I wish they would come out with more talk show hosts with a personality...LONG LIVE DR. OZ!!!  |
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Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:50 pm |
Oh, I just wanted to add, part of his show today was about poking at blackheads and how deadly it can be...very interesting stuff! I didn't know that the nose area was called the triangle of death and if you poked a blackhead there, you could potentially be sending infection into the brain since the veins from the nose to the brain are connected.....who knew???  If you don't believe me go check it out atwww.doctoroz.com |
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Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:32 am |
| cartersmom wrote: |
| Oh, I just wanted to add, part of his show today was about poking at blackheads and how deadly it can be...very interesting stuff! I didn't know that the nose area was called the triangle of death and if you poked a blackhead there, you could potentially be sending infection into the brain since the veins from the nose to the brain are connected.....who knew??? If you don't believe me go check it out atwww.doctoroz.com |
I have known about this for many years, if you get a sinus infection it's also very dangerous to leave it untreated! Also any irritation inside the nose (sometimes just tinge of blood) can become infected and go to the brain! Any thing that is a possible point of infection in or on the nose can lead to infection in your brain!
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Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:45 pm |
| cartersmom wrote: |
| Oh, I just wanted to add, part of his show today was about poking at blackheads and how deadly it can be...very interesting stuff! I didn't know that the nose area was called the triangle of death and if you poked a blackhead there, you could potentially be sending infection into the brain since the veins from the nose to the brain are connected.....who knew??? If you don't believe me go check it out atwww.doctoroz.com |
Drat...picking blackheads is some of the best entertainment EVER! |
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Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:55 pm |
| bethany wrote: |
| cartersmom wrote: |
| Oh, I just wanted to add, part of his show today was about poking at blackheads and how deadly it can be...very interesting stuff! I didn't know that the nose area was called the triangle of death and if you poked a blackhead there, you could potentially be sending infection into the brain since the veins from the nose to the brain are connected.....who knew??? If you don't believe me go check it out atwww.doctoroz.com |
Drat...picking blackheads is some of the best entertainment EVER! |
Sorry to burst your bubble! LOL Take up knitting? 
DM |
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Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:57 pm |
| bethany wrote: |
| cartersmom wrote: |
| Oh, I just wanted to add, part of his show today was about poking at blackheads and how deadly it can be...very interesting stuff! I didn't know that the nose area was called the triangle of death and if you poked a blackhead there, you could potentially be sending infection into the brain since the veins from the nose to the brain are connected.....who knew??? If you don't believe me go check it out atwww.doctoroz.com |
Drat...picking blackheads is some of the best entertainment EVER! |
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:15 am |
| Love Dr. Oz. I tivo it everyday. He finds the most obscure things to talk and report on. |
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:23 am |
| sherryf13500 wrote: |
| Love Dr. Oz. I tivo it everyday. He finds the most obscure things to talk and report on. |
I don't get a chance to watch that often, but whenever I catch him on well I just have to stop
and watch! I agree he is informative and entertaining! Love watching him!
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:38 am |
I don't watch him but did read a discussion about a show of his recently where he classified mineral makeup, lip gloss and some anti-wrinkle creams as hazardous. I personally think some of what he has to say is factually inaccurate. For example, this is what he had to say about anti-aging products:
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What to Look For
Fragrance-free
Color-free
Vitamin A-Retinol: a product that actually does work to improve skin tone and reduce wrinkles
Vitamin C: an effective collagen builder
Alpha hydroxy acid: a good exfoliant and collagen builder
Use these products at night, because the sun will actually oxidize the ingredients and render them ineffective. |
And this is what he had to say about lip gloss:
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| What could be more harmless than a little streak of shine on your rosy lips? Well, turns out lots of things, because the shine in lip-gloss comes from petroleum jelly. Petroleum jelly is a byproduct of oil drilling, and when you spread it on your lips, you end up eating it, which is essentially the same as drinking gasoline. Add up the amount of lip-gloss the average woman uses (and consumes) over a decade, and it equals 7 pounds. The European Union has banned many petroleum jelly products, and experts are concerned they could be linked to cancer. Women with breast cancer have twice the levels of hydrocarbons (substances found in petroleum jelly) in their breasts than women who haven’t had breast cancer. |
flitcraft put that theory to rest here:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=36559&highlight=lipstick+consumes
And she was basing her calculations on 4 pounds of lipstick, not 7 pounds. |
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:45 am |
| Skippie wrote: |
For example, this is what he had to say about anti-aging products:
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What to Look For
Fragrance-free
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Vitamin A-Retinol: a product that actually does work to improve skin tone and reduce wrinkles
Vitamin C: an effective collagen builder
Alpha hydroxy acid: a good exfoliant and collagen builder
Use these products at night, because the sun will actually oxidize the ingredients and render them ineffective. |
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Actually he is one of several doctors who recommend using C at night instead of during the day. |
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:02 am |
| I do not like these T.V. specialists. Fear mongering is more like it. Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz, etc. They give us bits and pieces of horror stories. Come on. Who has ever died from squishing a few zits?! or wearing lipstick for that matter? |
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:44 am |
I'm not disagreeing that there are studies showing that, DM. I'm disagreeing that the average woman eats 7 pounds of lipgloss/lipstick. |
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:48 am |
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| Skippie wrote: |
For example, this is what he had to say about anti-aging products:
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What to Look For
Fragrance-free
Color-free
Vitamin A-Retinol: a product that actually does work to improve skin tone and reduce wrinkles
Vitamin C: an effective collagen builder
Alpha hydroxy acid: a good exfoliant and collagen builder
Use these products at night, because the sun will actually oxidize the ingredients and render them ineffective. |
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Actually he is one of several doctors who recommend using C at night instead of during the day. |
Are the others cardiologists or dermatologists? Sorry, Riley - I hope you don't think I'm mean-spirited for saying that. I just have a hard time taking skincare advice from a cardiologist. |
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:39 pm |
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Are the others cardiologists or dermatologists? Sorry, Riley - I hope you don't think I'm mean-spirited for saying that. I just have a hard time taking skincare advice from a cardiologist. |
LOL! Nope, I don't think there is a mean bone in your body, Skippie! I believe the others are derms and not cardiologists! |
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:49 pm |
| doohicus wrote: |
| I do not like these T.V. specialists. Fear mongering is more like it. Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz, etc. They give us bits and pieces of horror stories. Come on. Who has ever died from squishing a few zits?! or wearing lipstick for that matter? |
Well years ago a very close friend got an infection from a zit popped on her nose and went to an ENT Doctor who told her it was a very good thing she came in because that infection could quite easily spread into her brain! So even though she didn't die from it, without antibiotics she could well have!
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:40 pm |
| Skippie wrote: |
I don't watch him but did read a discussion about a show of his recently where he classified mineral makeup, lip gloss and some anti-wrinkle creams as hazardous. I personally think some of what he has to say is factually inaccurate. For example, this is what he had to say about anti-aging products:
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What to Look For
Fragrance-free
Color-free
Vitamin A-Retinol: a product that actually does work to improve skin tone and reduce wrinkles
Vitamin C: an effective collagen builder
Alpha hydroxy acid: a good exfoliant and collagen builder
Use these products at night, because the sun will actually oxidize the ingredients and render them ineffective. |
And this is what he had to say about lip gloss:
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| What could be more harmless than a little streak of shine on your rosy lips? Well, turns out lots of things, because the shine in lip-gloss comes from petroleum jelly. Petroleum jelly is a byproduct of oil drilling, and when you spread it on your lips, you end up eating it, which is essentially the same as drinking gasoline. Add up the amount of lip-gloss the average woman uses (and consumes) over a decade, and it equals 7 pounds. The European Union has banned many petroleum jelly products, and experts are concerned they could be linked to cancer. Women with breast cancer have twice the levels of hydrocarbons (substances found in petroleum jelly) in their breasts than women who haven’t had breast cancer. |
flitcraft put that theory to rest here:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=36559&highlight=lipstick+consumes
And she was basing her calculations on 4 pounds of lipstick, not 7 pounds. |
I agree with everything he said (within reason)..
It is true that Vitamin C + Retinol products are highly susceptible to degradation from UV light (among other things).... What he neglected to say was that once the product has penetrated through the stratum corneum and into the epidermis, the UV light will then have no ill effect on it. And then of course applying sunscreen after the A + C products have absorbed a while, you are further protecting it.
Most Docs just find it shorter and sweeter to advise using these actives at night.
As for the 'lipstick', I must have read the same medical jargon he has, because I agree somewhat... The 7 lbs I read about was over ones lifetime, and not a decade. It makes sense to me that some lipstick is being absorbed systemically, otherwise why is it necessary to re-apply throughout the day? The ingredients in lipstick really don't support things that cause evaporation, so it's going somewhere...  Anyhoo, the bright side for me is I have no lips, so little need for lipstick...   |
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Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:54 pm |
I don't like that he tests on animals at Columbia University.
I saw that episode with the makeup. I have to say Paula Begoun's face looked atrocious. Especially for someone that claims to be a skin guru with a product line and book. She had a bunch of pimples on her cheek, covered up, but anyone that knows diddly about makeup could see it. My bf's mom walked into the room and said, "Who is that old bag?" having no idea who Paula was. I will never buy her skincare products. |
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Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:06 pm |
LOL Skippie,
Maybe we are above average here at EDS and consume 14 lbs in a lifetime Joking!
I don't think you have any mean in you at all, I take whatever I read or see with a grain of salt! He can be fun to watch at times though and some of his facts are correct!
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| Skippie wrote: |
I don't watch him but did read a discussion about a show of his recently where he classified mineral makeup, lip gloss and some anti-wrinkle creams as hazardous. I personally think some of what he has to say is factually inaccurate. For example, this is what he had to say about anti-aging products:
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What to Look For
Fragrance-free
Color-free
Vitamin A-Retinol: a product that actually does work to improve skin tone and reduce wrinkles
Vitamin C: an effective collagen builder
Alpha hydroxy acid: a good exfoliant and collagen builder
Use these products at night, because the sun will actually oxidize the ingredients and render them ineffective. |
And this is what he had to say about lip gloss:
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| What could be more harmless than a little streak of shine on your rosy lips? Well, turns out lots of things, because the shine in lip-gloss comes from petroleum jelly. Petroleum jelly is a byproduct of oil drilling, and when you spread it on your lips, you end up eating it, which is essentially the same as drinking gasoline. Add up the amount of lip-gloss the average woman uses (and consumes) over a decade, and it equals 7 pounds. The European Union has banned many petroleum jelly products, and experts are concerned they could be linked to cancer. Women with breast cancer have twice the levels of hydrocarbons (substances found in petroleum jelly) in their breasts than women who haven’t had breast cancer. |
flitcraft put that theory to rest here:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=36559&highlight=lipstick+consumes
And she was basing her calculations on 4 pounds of lipstick, not 7 pounds. |
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Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:23 am |
I love Dr. Oz's show, and record it every day! He has made me so paranoid about spreading germs, having e coli in my bathroom, etc. I now take what he says with a grain of salt, else I would go crazy!
My favorite part of the show is when he has people step on the "truth tube". Now that is where his show excels. He has done some really good work in helping obese people get control of their health, and providing them with on-going professional support. I love the follow-up stories! |
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Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:51 am |
He may be an entertaining guy and he may be a crackerjack cardiologist, but he obviously knows nothing about makeup. There's no way the average woman consumes 7 pounds of lipstick in a lifetime. As skippie noted, my daughter and I did the math on it--the only way you could even get to 4 pounds lifetime would be to apply it about 20 times a day, every single day for at least 60 straight years of your life. Getting to 7 pounds would require about 35 daily applications for a lifetime. Even the biggest lipstick users couldn't hope to get to that level of consumptiom.
The biggest flaw in his argument, though, is that lip gloss may well not contain any petroleum jelly at all!! I checked on the only lip glosses I happen to have--Julie Hewett, Smashbox, Edward Bess, and ELF and guess what--not a single one had petroleum jelly or mineral oil in them at all. Not one. I suppose it's possible that other brands might. But given his wild inaccuracy on lipstick consumption and the fact that all 4 brands--some high end, some low end--had none, the ball is in his court to show that at least some lipglosses have petroleum hydrocarbon products in them.
I can understand why somebody might think that lip glosses contain petroleum jelly--after all, they are shiny. So someone without any knowledge of the cosmetic industry (and without any lipglosses of his own to check for ingredients!) might *guess* that there could be petroleum jelly in lipgloss. But to state it as a fact (coupled with his clearly incorrect assertion of the amount of lip products that women consume) is just irresponsible as journalism. I expect more of someone who apparently is a medical doctor, honestly.
So, enjoy him for entertainment sake, but I wouldn't trust the accuracy of any "advice" he gives without checking it out. |
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:43 am |
| Thankyou flitcraft.Well said. |
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