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Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:31 pm  |
Hi, this is such a vain question, but if I can't be vain here, then where?
I travel regularly between sizes. 8 - 10 after Christmas then down to size 6. I have my belly under control at size 6, but then I have wrinkles. Would you rather wrinkles or a belly? |
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Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:43 pm |
| catloveschanel wrote: |
Hi, this is such a vain question, but if I can't be vain here, then where?
I travel regularly between sizes. 8 - 10 after Christmas then down to size 6. I have my belly under control at size 6, but then I have wrinkles. Would you rather wrinkles or a belly? |
Wow, that's a toughy!  I cannot believe I am saying this, but I want my flat belly back, so I will go with wrinkles! (You didn't say how long you stay at the size 6, but I wonder if you stayed at the size 6 longer if your "wrinkles" wouldn't actually start fading. Maybe it is dehydration, lack of certain nutrients, etc that are causing them when you are at a lighter weight?) |
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Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:31 pm |
I get plumper after Christmas Jan - Mar, then I get a grip. RIght now, I'm noticing wrinkles coming back. I had never thought much about wrinkles before (I just turned 50)
I eat better when I am slimmer. I take a lot of vitamins.
When you say hydrate, you mean if I drank water all the time, the wrinkles would fade? Wow, you are giving me so much hope. I'm so glad I asked this silly question. |
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Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:31 pm |
| Maybe more water would help. How about what you are using on your skin itself? Making sure you get good veggies and fruits? (Not sure what type of a diet you do or don't do to lose the weight, so just throwing some stuff out there for you!) |
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Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:55 pm |
| I have to workout for an hour to maintain that weight. I just started doing that again. I eat an apple a day and a spinach salad every day. I think it must be my skincare routine, which I have tried about everything. But it is encouraging that they may flatten out. |
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Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:14 pm |
| catloveschanel wrote: |
| I have to workout for an hour to maintain that weight. I just started doing that again. I eat an apple a day and a spinach salad every day. I think it must be my skincare routine, which I have tried about everything. But it is encouraging that they may flatten out. |
I am a huge believer in the "tried and true" as far as skin care. Retin A at night, C serum in the morning, and a great sunscreen! That will go a long way in helping your skin. Your workouts, depending on how intense they are, could definitely play into the wrinkles. Are you getting enough protein? |
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Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:33 pm |
I have a piece of meat for dinner. I take a Fish Oil pill at night. I use Neutrogena Dermatologics Retinol at night, (it is $65) maybe I'm ready to step up to the Retin-A.
I put Mychelle Vitamin C Serum on during the day and my skin loves it. Then I use sunscreen.  |
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Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:02 pm |
| Another thing that might help is humidity in your bedroom at night, when you're asleep. I don't know where you live, but being winter, things can get awfully dry. We live in an old building with radiator heat. It's definitely warm, but no built-in humidifier in our building. We've always run a vaporizer in my son's room since he was a baby, but we put one in ours when my nasal passages got so dry this winter to the point of bleeding. Throat/nasal passages are much better, and DH and I both noticed that the humidity has helped our skin, too. We got the vaporizer right before the holidays, and though I'm pretty careful about my skincare (of course I am, I read this forum all the time!), I noticed a difference especially around my eyes almost immediately. Just a thought - a vaporizer might help! |
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Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:11 pm |
 OK, thanks. I always run a fan at night to cut down on the in-city noise. Plus, I think I wash my face about 4 times, morning, after work, and at night. Maybe I'll try one of those oil cleansers, as my face is not as oily, but getting dryer. Thanks for your help |
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:17 am |
| catloveschanel wrote: |
| OK, thanks. I always run a fan at night to cut down on the in-city noise. Plus, I think I wash my face about 4 times, morning, after work, and at night. Maybe I'll try one of those oil cleansers, as my face is not as oily, but getting dryer. Thanks for your help |
4 times is a lot, i do not think it is good for your skin |
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:21 am |
there's a thread on the oil cleansing method...on the diy forum here...you can do a search for it.
in the winter it's all i ever do.
also check out the green smoothie thread on the diy forum...seems like more green veggies might be important to you.
also i use only diy botanical oils and eo's (essential oils)..so many of them are exraordiarily hydrating/regenerating. |
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:03 am |
Excellent, I will look that up. Thanks!  |
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:35 am |
Catloveschanel, I would say that since it is your tummy then "skinny with wrinkles" is better. We do not generally walk around with our stomachs showing.  It is more about how we look and feel in our clothes.
You may not be able to maintain your size 6 and settle back to a size 8, but the thinner you are the better you will look and feel. That is provided you are eating healthy and not depriving your body. |
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:42 pm |
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Catloveschanel, I would say that since it is your tummy then "skinny with wrinkles" is better. We do not generally walk around with our stomachs showing. It is more about how we look and feel in our clothes.
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 I thought she was meaning her face getting wrinkles, not her stomach?? |
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:45 pm |
Yep, you thought right.
I just have been noticing losing weight, I gain wrinkles. 
I always gain weight in Jan - Feb, the rest of the time I'm size 6. I'm so obsessed with wrinkles now, (on my face) that appear when the pounds drop. |
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:00 pm |
| catloveschanel wrote: |
Yep, you thought right.
I just have been noticing losing weight, I gain wrinkles.
I always gain weight in Jan - Feb, the rest of the time I'm size 6. I'm so obsessed with wrinkles now, (on my face) that appear when the pounds drop. |
Whew! I was getting worried about myself and thought my perimenopausal brain had really lost it for a minute! |
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:06 pm |
This is the age old choice - the body or the face
I have found if you exercise and build muscle mass you get thinner without losing the fat as easily in the face. But you need to exercise and maintain a healthy diet with adequate protein and omega's as well as the veggies, etc.
I maintain a pretty low weight but I exercise and am very careful with food choices. I used to lose from my face but actually since I've become very devoted to exercising and eating well it isn't as much of an issue. Or maybe it's the facial exercise  Wow, could be it. That's why Deb Crowley started FE so as not to lose her face while trimming her body down for competition. Well, you've given me something to really think about..... |
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:31 pm |
| catloveschanel wrote: |
Yep, you thought right.
I just have been noticing losing weight, I gain wrinkles.
I always gain weight in Jan - Feb, the rest of the time I'm size 6. I'm so obsessed with wrinkles now, (on my face) that appear when the pounds drop. |
Sorry Catloveschanel, My Oops!  Losing weight will not cause wrinkles, but can cause a gaunt look on the face from loss of facial volume.
I have always been very fit and thin my whole life. As I got older I was concerned about getting the "hollow look". I have combated by using CPs and doing facial exercise. I still think thin looks better for an overall look. We have to work on our faces either way as we age Heavy, thin or in between.
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| Whew! I was getting worried about myself and thought my perimenopausal brain had really lost it for a minute! |
Rileygirl, That was my postmenopausal brain! |
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:08 pm |
Actually, I had "Bikini on the Brain"!  |
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:04 pm |
A thin appearance (not skinny) tends to look youthful. When people lose weight we tend to comment about that - that they look good. Recall pictures of celebrities when they gain weight they always seem to look older and/or matronly.
That said at menopause fighting the tummy is a battle for a lot of people. I have read doing intervals (one minute at a fast pace alternating with one minute at a leisurely pace) on a stepper or similar cardiovascular machine helps to stop the deposition of mid section fat. It is suggested to do 20 minutes of this at least 3X a week.
Also I suggest an interval/circuit training class at least once or twice a week that uses weights. This has really kept things in check for me. Lose the tummy and keep the face
I guess like anything it's a balanced effect. |
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:18 pm |
A few other things that help my face to look plump and unwrinkled-ish (it's all relative !!) even though my body is slim...
spirulina (it's my 'magic bullet') i use at least 2 tablespoons a day ..it has protein/omega fats/chloropyl all in one product.
chia seeds (protein/minerals/vitamins.omegas) i use the whole seeds soaked..and ususally add nut/seed milk..and spirulina of course!
intense marshmallow (member of the mallow family) herbal tea infusions are especially beneficial for hydrating the face (and the whole body internal.. and external)one of the few moistening herbal teas, very gelatinous..can be mixed with other tea or juices, smoothies,etc. |
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:21 pm |
| Star Model wrote: |
Rileygirl, That was my postmenopausal brain! |
These darn hormones sure to play a number on us, don't they? |
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:54 pm |
Darn Hormones.
Listen to what I mean, not what I say. lol
Dang. Ok, this is so helpful. Went to super supplements before I got home and read the rest.
I got castor oil and whipped me up a oil cleanse with Sunflower oil. Don't I feel fantastic? Why yes I do.
Then I'm going to work on my belly. I work out every day most of my life, so I have a lot of muscle, but I guess I have to do the slow / fast / interval / routine more. Wow, I have a lot to do! Thanks for your help! |
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Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:57 am |
I have to say, I think skinny older women look the most aged/haggard - sorry!
I have quite a gaunt face and as I get older i can tell that I am going to have to choose my face over my body, but at the end of the day, as long as you are not obese, and take care of the way you look and dress, you will look healthier and younger with a bit of fat on your bones/face.
Also, skinny bodies on older women = also a no no for me. It just looks like bone and sinew - :S |
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Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:11 am |
catloves,
What is a castor oil-sunflower oil cleanse?
Thank you!
Pluto
| catloveschanel wrote: |
Darn Hormones.
Listen to what I mean, not what I say. lol
Dang. Ok, this is so helpful. Went to super supplements before I got home and read the rest.
I got castor oil and whipped me up a oil cleanse with Sunflower oil. Don't I feel fantastic? Why yes I do.
Then I'm going to work on my belly. I work out every day most of my life, so I have a lot of muscle, but I guess I have to do the slow / fast / interval / routine more. Wow, I have a lot to do! Thanks for your help! |
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