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Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:52 am      Reply with quote
Hi Kassie,

thank you for taking the time to post your recipes- the reviews are pretty impressive I must say. Very Happy

Are any posters from the UK making Kassy's serum? I need help with tracking down ingredients Smile

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Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:44 pm      Reply with quote
I threw together very quickly a serum that's pretty nice so far.

22% VIT C SERUM (L-AA + THDA)

10% L-AA (water soluble)
7% THDA (oil soluble)
2% Alpha Lipoic Acid (oil soluble)
1% Ferulic Acid (alcohol soluble)
3% Macadamia OR Grapeseed Oil (both have high vitamin E content and are lovely on the skin, without leaving a greasy feel.)
1% Polysorbate 80 (or emulsifier of your choice)
1% Vodka (for dissolving FA only, both can be left out if you choose.)
75% Distilled Water

Experienced DIY'ers will have no problems doing this in 3 simple phases.

For 'newbies', I'd suggest just leaving out the FAA and vodka, and proceeding in just 2 easy phases (oil + water).

Have fun!

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Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:50 pm      Reply with quote
eeewwwww coool. A new recipe. I have everything but the emulsifier. I've been copper peptiding it almost exclusively since Spring but come Fall I'm changing things up again - diy C serum and probably Karin Herzog VK2. (Alternating with copper peptides.) Always had a nice result from that combo. Want to see if it will work again.

Also - buying some hydrosols from GoW. And some carrier oils for my oily old face.

Sure hope things pick up on EDS - maybe if we get the DIY threads going again Kassy!!!!

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Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:37 pm      Reply with quote
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A big Thank YOU from far away. Your recipes are simply wonderful and I and many others appreciate the time you put in to creating and then so kindly sharing them with us. Till I found EDS I hadn't even heard of Vitamin C as a serum As such...I am a complete convert and have gone a bit buggy ordering all kinds of goodies to pamper myself with.

Please continue sharing, if that makes me a groupie too...fine. I can live with that. Very Happy
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Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:03 pm      Reply with quote
My favorite is the jojoba recipe.

Kassy please do not quit posting recipes, you've been a lifesaver!!!
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Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:58 pm      Reply with quote
DragoN wrote:
Kassy_A

A big Thank YOU from far away. Your recipes are simply wonderful and I and many others appreciate the time you put in to creating and then so kindly sharing them with us. Till I found EDS I hadn't even heard of Vitamin C as a serum As such...I am a complete convert and have gone a bit buggy ordering all kinds of goodies to pamper myself with.

Please continue sharing, if that makes me a groupie too...fine. I can live with that. Very Happy


Another big thank you from far away. Kassy, your recipes have been absolutely wonderful and I thank you so much for sharing. I have so much making them and giving them to friends and family.

I am a groupie too, and I can also live with it. Smile
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Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:49 am      Reply with quote
You guys are too funny (and nice!)

I won't quit posting recipe's, it's just the "details" I'll be leaving out. (As usual, "groupies" can PM/email me for those Very Happy Laughing )

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Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:28 pm      Reply with quote
Kassy_A wrote:
I threw together very quickly a serum that's pretty nice so far.

22% VIT C SERUM (L-AA + THDA)

10% L-AA (water soluble)
7% THDA (oil soluble)
2% Alpha Lipoic Acid (oil soluble)
1% Ferulic Acid (alcohol soluble)
3% Macadamia OR Grapeseed Oil (both have high vitamin E content and are lovely on the skin, without leaving a greasy feel.)
1% Polysorbate 80 (or emulsifier of your choice)
1% Vodka (for dissolving FA only, both can be left out if you choose.)
75% Distilled Water

Experienced DIY'ers will have no problems doing this in 3 simple phases.

For 'newbies', I'd suggest just leaving out the FAA and vodka, and proceeding in just 2 easy phases (oil + water).

Have fun!


Darn it! I wish I had waited a day.... I could've used this recipe.

I just made a batch and couldn't find a recipe w/ the THCDA in it, so I substituted your recipe for MAP instead. It's a watery serum and I think I would've liked the jojoba one posted on the first page better (I believe that's the first one I made). Oh well - must continue trying out new recipes.

Kassy - can you give us the teaspoon equilavents to that recipe above?

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Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:32 pm      Reply with quote
Count me in as a groupie too, Kassy. Sure do miss your reports and recipes. Your warmth in your responses adds so much to this forum.

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I have been using 5 drops of THDA in the oil part of the jojoba recipe.
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Count me in as a groupie too, Kassy. Sure do miss your reports and recipes. Your warmth in your responses adds so much to this forum.


You may want to PM this request Foxe (and let me know what she says Laughing ).

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Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:24 am      Reply with quote
I saw the vodka was the solubilizor for FA and buffering the pH. So does it matter if I use a $10 cheap Vodka? If not, which vodka should I get? TIA!
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foxe wrote:
Count me in as a groupie too, Kassy. Sure do miss your reports and recipes. Your warmth in your responses adds so much to this forum.


You may want to PM this request Foxe (and let me know what she says Laughing ).


LMAO!

Just for the record, THDA can be added to any of the DIY C serums I have posted, by just adding it to your oil prior to putting the phases together.

It's only if you want an "anhydrous" (no water) formula, that you would have to use a silicone base for it. (I've done that too, but wasn't really impressed.)

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Kassy_A wrote:
Just for the record, THDA can be added to any of the DIY C serums I have posted, by just adding it to your oil prior to putting the phases together.


Thanks for reading my mind. I kindof posted it as a question but went back and read it and it didn't come across that way. Thanks so much for the reply and reading my mind!!!
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Have been loving the DIY CEF serums and just tried the jojoba version. Love the ingredients, but when checked the ph it was off the charts at 2.0 or below? Shock Tried adding water, but more than an ounce barely took it to the 3. range and it was too watery. The ingredients separated.

The amounts look about right? Has anyone else checked ph on this version? If yes, maybe it's my ph strips?

Thanks! Wink
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Tea wrote:
Have been loving the DIY CEF serums and just tried the jojoba version. Love the ingredients, but when checked the ph it was off the charts at 2.0 or below? Shock Tried adding water, but more than an ounce barely took it to the 3. range and it was too watery. The ingredients separated.

The amounts look about right? Has anyone else checked ph on this version? If yes, maybe it's my ph strips?

Thanks! Wink

Hi

I've used the joboba recipe. When I test the PH it's usually right around 3. I use the PH strips from Garden of Wisdom.

Where is your LAA from? Some of the health food type brands may have fillers or other ingredients in them that impact PH. I usually use LAA from Lotioncrafters, Garden of Wisdom or Skinactives.
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Yep, bought all new supplies from Lotioncrafters, since wanted/needed fresh materials and read that it was one stop shopping. (Really fast shipping, too. Awesome.)

In the past, have used LAA from Skinactives. Have been making the standard CEF DIY recipe with same batch of ph strips and that version has always registered between 2.5 - 3.

No one mentioned sifting the LAA before using. That's the only other thing am thinking may try.

Thanks for checking in, ShastaGirl. If you're registering a good ph, am going to figure this out and make it work. It looks like a great recipe!
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Would somebody please give us the teaspoon equilavents to the recipe above - I don't have how to convert from the % to teaspoon. Crying or Very sad

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Algona wrote:
Would somebody please give us the teaspoon equilavents to the recipe above - I don't have how to convert from the % to teaspoon. Crying or Very sad

Thank you


It's 6 tsp. per oz. You should be able to work from there?

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I've made a very simple Vit C serum and it has burned my skin. Embarassed This is the recipe I was following:


1 tsp LAA
3 tsp distilled water
1 tsp aloe vera gel
1/4 tsp Jojoba oil

step1: LAA + slightly warm water = mix until the crystals are dissolved

step2: Aloe + jojoba = mix
step3: mix the two mixes

I then put the mixture in the fridge.


What possibly went wrong .. What caused the burn?
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RussianSunshine wrote:
I've made a very simple Vit C serum and it has burned my skin. Embarassed This is the recipe I was following:


1 tsp LAA
3 tsp distilled water
1 tsp aloe vera gel
1/4 tsp Jojoba oil

step1: LAA + slightly warm water = mix until the crystals are dissolved

step2: Aloe + jojoba = mix
step3: mix the two mixes

I then put the mixture in the fridge.


What possibly went wrong .. What caused the burn?


The 'burn' is because you didn't use enough liquid, to accomodate the 1 tsp of L-AA.

To have a 15% concentration you must put 1 tsp of L-AA into 6 tsp of liquid (1oz).

Math is my weakness, but your formula looks to be in the neighborhood of a 25(ish) % concentration Crying or Very sad (4 1/4 tsp of fluid, based on what you wrote)

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Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:33 pm      Reply with quote
*Ouch* Russiansunshine

To be on the safe side...I don't do the tsp and Tbsp measures...as there are differences in the Tbsps between America and the rest of the world.

Here 1 Tbsp =20ml
America =15 ml

Hit and miss...also, measures of powders, the weights are what we really need in order to calculate percentages correctly.

1 ml H20 = 1 gram

1 gram or tsp of whatever powder will not equal 1 gram of another...different molecular densities. Surface area based on powder size will also affect your measurements. Different volumes, as that is what you are measuring with tsp/ tbsp's.

A micro scale will solve this problem for you. I also got beakers and graduated cylinders...just to be *anal retentive* about it...and it's fun playing the mad bio chemist again.

Kassy, you have jacked up the Ferulic Acid content ....
http://www.nature.com/jid/journal/v126/n5/full/5700232a.html

Do you have other information that you based that on or you have found it to be more effective for yourself?

Only asking, as I am curious, I love your recipes.
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THDA = Tennessee Housing Development Agency???
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Hermosa wrote:
THDA = Tennessee Housing Development Agency???


LOL Hermosa! Smile
cross post from vitamin c DIY thread



THDA is Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate one of the lipid forms of Vitamin C.

HTH

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Thanks DarkMoon! Usually I can google my way out of ignorance, so I'm lucky to have you all to help me out when google lets me down!
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