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I REALLY want to do this serum! PHA + Lactobionic
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Josee
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Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:18 pm      Reply with quote
Hello!

So I've been reading lots of good things about polyhydroxyacids (PHA) and bionic acids.

I've seen that the most commons are:

- Gluconolactone (a PHA)
- Lactobionic (bionic acid)

I see it being sold as creams but the ingredients do not convince me. So I'd like to do something myself.

Has anyone tried?

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Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:10 am      Reply with quote
I haven't tried it, but isn't the Neostrata brand known for these ingredients?
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Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:08 am      Reply with quote
i have used the Facial Cleanser, Bionic Serum, Gel Plus & one moisturizer (discontinued now, maybe) of Neostrata

They are very mild to me; what I saw was that they corrected and balanced my oily skin.

P.S. The Bioinc serum is very thick and sticky.


http://www.neostrata.com/product/neostrata+facial+cleanser.do?sortby=ourPicks

http://www.neostrata.com/product/neostrata+bionic+face+serum.do?sortby=ourPicks&page=2
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Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:58 am      Reply with quote
The issue I am running into checking for - Gluconolactone (a PHA) and Lactobionic (bionic acid) is the only places I have come across that sell are tradekey and the like. They sell in very large quantities and I am not sure about finding proper percentages ect.
Have you found a supplier for a small amount of either? Embarassed

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Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:12 am      Reply with quote
Josee what attracts you to these ingredients?

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Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:19 am      Reply with quote
What I like about PHA is that besides acting like a AHA, there's research that suggests that they have other properties: they're less irritant, they help restore the skin's barrier function, they have antioxidant/chelating properties, in vitro studies have suggested it might protect against UV rays.

Regarding bionic acids (BA) what I like is that there's research that has suggested that they inhbit MMPs, they have an antioxidant/chelating effect, and also the molecule attracts water and forms like a little gel matrix which I hope would make my skin nice and plump!

I thought about buying the Neostrata products but I need to know more about the stability of these products (do they degrade in the emulsion and become useless?) and I don't like all the other stuff the Neostraa products include Sad

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