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Mon May 17, 2010 10:12 am  |
hi everyoneeeeeeeee......has anyone heard of the sunblocking pills? my derm once told me that she takes these pills herself since she is also very sensitive to sun,,,she also recommend me,but i forgot the name,,,she said that when ever u r going out in the sun for longer times or even for shorter times but u dont want to apply and reapply sunblock again and again,,,u can take this pill,and it works as great as a sunscreen lotion...it costs around 1 dollar per pill....have u heard of it before ?
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Mon May 17, 2010 10:19 am |
I'm currently taking the Sun Pill: http://www.sunpill.com/
I've also taken Murad Pomphenol Sunguard Supplement which you can purchase here at EDS.
Neither supplement comes out to $1 a pill, though. |
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Mon May 17, 2010 10:48 am |
thanks for the reply skippie,,,,,do u think this pill really works as great as the sunscreen ?????
and how much is the cost of one oill,,,is it more or less than 1 dollar per pill ????? do u take it everyday and r u satisfied with the results so far ? so do u still wear sunscreen ? Thanks a bunches |
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Mon May 17, 2010 11:48 am |
| Oh yes! I want to know too!!! |
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Mon May 17, 2010 11:52 am |
| andare there any side effects to it ??????? |
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Mon May 17, 2010 12:02 pm |
Funny!
I just ordered the "Beauty Cache" from Skincare RX and one of the samples is some "sunscreen"pills.
Apparently it is a new product they carry.
I think the sample bottle has 10? pills.
My bag of samples is at my parents in the US right now (not getting for 2 more weeks).
But shipping to Canada for a beauty cache is around $10-15 by airmail.
http://skincarerx.com/Heliocare-Dietary-Supplement-For-The-Skin.html
There is not much review yet on their site about this. I was going to give the sample to my sister or Aunt as I do not use stuff like that. |
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Mon May 17, 2010 12:03 pm |
I take Heliocare. It is NOT a replacement for sunscreen, but does help to limit your damage. There are some clinical studies behind this particular brand, I have noticed some definite benefits when using it.
There are some other posts on it here on EDS of you do a search for Heliocare. |
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Mon May 17, 2010 2:22 pm |
| I use Heliocare in summer months, also like Murad pomegranate supplements as well. |
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Mon May 17, 2010 2:48 pm |
I have found this:
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The active ingredient in Heliocare is known as Fern extract or Fernblock. You can find products that have that ingredient at much higher doses then Heliocare at a much cheaper price. I currently use a Raintree brand liquid extract that is much more potent then Heliocare and much cheaper. I also use Lycopene since Fernblock and lycopene (or tomato paste) have been clinically shown to be effective at providing a level of protection from UV rays and burning. Dr. Oz even stated on his show that Lycopene is one of the best internal supplements for providing a level of protection for the skin from UV damage.
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http://www.skincaretalk.com/skin-lightening/10094-oral-sun-protection-pills.html |
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Mon May 17, 2010 3:56 pm |
Sun Pill also contains the extract of the fern Polypodium leucotomos as well as Astaxanthin, Green tea extract, Pomegranate Extract, Aloe Concentrate, Ashwagandha Root Extract, and Beetroot Extract. Truthfully, I only take them on days when I'm going to be outside for an extended period of time. After having a BCC removed from my arm last year, I thought I needed any extra protection I could get. I haven't suffered any kind of a burn or tan since I started using the pills, but I'm being extra careful in other ways too. The pills are less than $1. I think I ordered them through amazon.com but I'm sure I looked for the cheapest price. I did look at the Heliocare supplement and decided I liked the sound of the Sun Pill better.
There are more suggestions in this thread that I started a couple of months ago:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=37360&highlight=internally |
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Mon May 17, 2010 9:30 pm |
Does anyone know if these supplements thin your blood?
I already have problems w thin blood and can not take garlic, aspirin and a bunch other things.
The only supplement I take is Iron that is in a natural format, the chemical kindsmake me ill... |
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Mon May 17, 2010 9:38 pm |
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Sun Pill also contains the extract of the fern Polypodium leucotomos as well as Astaxanthin, Green tea extract, Pomegranate Extract, Aloe Concentrate, Ashwagandha Root Extract, and Beetroot Extract. Truthfully, I only take them on days when I'm going to be outside for an extended period of time. After having a BCC removed from my arm last year, I thought I needed any extra protection I could get. I haven't suffered any kind of a burn or tan since I started using the pills, but I'm being extra careful in other ways too. The pills are less than $1. I think I ordered them through amazon.com but I'm sure I looked for the cheapest price. I did look at the Heliocare supplement and decided I liked the sound of the Sun Pill better.
There are more suggestions in this thread that I started a couple of months ago:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=37360&highlight=internally |
Skippie, I had not heard of SunPill, and just looked it up....I found this, though I have no idea if it is correct or not. But I did find it interesting that this person actually spoke to someone interviewed in the article (see link below):
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There are two sun protection supplements on the market: HELIOCARE and The Sun Pill.
Heliocare works and has over 25 peer-reviewed, published clinical reports to prove it. Preceded by 12 years of scientific research & development at Harvard by the world's leading dermatologists.
The Sun Pill is worthless. ABC World News Tonight has dubbed The Sun Pill "all hype" [May 19, 2006]. An examination of the total research by the science team of CBS assessed The Sun Pill data as follows:"I think a lot of it is marketing...." Dr. Ruth Tedaldi comments that "The Sun Pill offers less sun protection than a daily multivitamin."
Heliocare, by providing effective, user-friendly, and cost-effective protection "from the inside out", is perfect for all the Moms and Dads who want to make sure their teens and college-age children take some sun protection at breakfast or lunch, and are "good to go".
Finally, I have spoken to Dr. Barry Resnik, and he has spoken with Dr. Leslie Baumann - - - both of whom are quoted in the above article. The sun protection pill Dr. Resnik and Dr. Baumann were referring to in the article is "HELIOCARE". NOT the Sun Pill.
It is unfortunate that the editing of this Health Report confused the HELIOCARE, the sun protection capsule that is truly effective and protective, and the sun protection supplement that the doctors interviewed were referring to - - with the sun protection pill, The Sun Pill, that provides virtually no more sun protection than a multi-vitamin [at 10x the cost], and which neither of the dermatologists interviewed would EVER recommend to their patients.
All that said - - - enjoy the sun! Just be sure you and yours are equipped with state-of-the-art sun protection this Summer 2007 - - - state-of-the-art sun protection [1 capsule Heliocare @ 85 cents per capsule; another at noon if out in strong sun all day; plus an inexpensive topical sunscreen, SPF 15 [such as "No-Ad UltraBlock", 16oz./$8.29]. That is as complete a UVA & UVB sun protection system as is available on the U.S. market.
Heliocare and an inexpensive topical sunscreen will cost you abuot 25% of the cost of the so-called "revolutionary, new, broad spectrum, topical sunscreens - - brand names "Anthelios", "Helioplex", Skinceuticals" products - - which cost $20 - $40 for 3.5oz. of lotion. At 2oz. per sunscreen application, Anthelios and Helioplex may provide good, but certainly not affordable, sun protection.
Step up to what the dermatologists are using. One to two capsules of Heliocare and an inexpensive SPF 15 topical sunscreen. Total sun protection, no sunburn, healthier - - and healthier-looking - - skin; at a cost every family can afford.
Have a great Summer 2007!!
L. Scott Fitzpatrick
http://www.ktka.com/news/2006/jul/08/doctors_show_excitement_over_new_antisunburn_pill/
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Mon May 17, 2010 9:45 pm |
| This is great, so taking Heliocare plus an SPF of 15 in your make up or moisturizer and you are all good! |
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Mon May 17, 2010 10:18 pm |
| Where in Canada can I purchase Sun Pills or Heliocare? One thing I know, Green tea is good for your skin. At the least these pills still have skin benefits. |
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Tue May 18, 2010 5:10 am |
| Interesting, Bethany. Thanks for finding that article. |
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Tue May 18, 2010 6:12 am |
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There are two sun protection supplements on the market: HELIOCARE and The Sun Pill.
Heliocare works and has over 25 peer-reviewed, published clinical reports to prove it. Preceded by 12 years of scientific research & development at Harvard by the world's leading dermatologists.
The Sun Pill is worthless. ABC World News Tonight has dubbed The Sun Pill "all hype" [May 19, 2006]. An examination of the total research by the science team of CBS assessed The Sun Pill data as follows:"I think a lot of it is marketing...." Dr. Ruth Tedaldi comments that "The Sun Pill offers less sun protection than a daily multivitamin."
Heliocare, by providing effective, user-friendly, and cost-effective protection "from the inside out", is perfect for all the Moms and Dads who want to make sure their teens and college-age children take some sun protection at breakfast or lunch, and are "good to go".
Finally, I have spoken to Dr. Barry Resnik, and he has spoken with Dr. Leslie Baumann - - - both of whom are quoted in the above article. The sun protection pill Dr. Resnik and Dr. Baumann were referring to in the article is "HELIOCARE". NOT the Sun Pill.
It is unfortunate that the editing of this Health Report confused the HELIOCARE, the sun protection capsule that is truly effective and protective, and the sun protection supplement that the doctors interviewed were referring to - - with the sun protection pill, The Sun Pill, that provides virtually no more sun protection than a multi-vitamin [at 10x the cost], and which neither of the dermatologists interviewed would EVER recommend to their patients.
All that said - - - enjoy the sun! Just be sure you and yours are equipped with state-of-the-art sun protection this Summer 2007 - - - state-of-the-art sun protection [1 capsule Heliocare @ 85 cents per capsule; another at noon if out in strong sun all day; plus an inexpensive topical sunscreen, SPF 15 [such as "No-Ad UltraBlock", 16oz./$8.29]. That is as complete a UVA & UVB sun protection system as is available on the U.S. market.
Heliocare and an inexpensive topical sunscreen will cost you abuot 25% of the cost of the so-called "revolutionary, new, broad spectrum, topical sunscreens - - brand names "Anthelios", "Helioplex", Skinceuticals" products - - which cost $20 - $40 for 3.5oz. of lotion. At 2oz. per sunscreen application, Anthelios and Helioplex may provide good, but certainly not affordable, sun protection.
Step up to what the dermatologists are using. One to two capsules of Heliocare and an inexpensive SPF 15 topical sunscreen. Total sun protection, no sunburn, healthier - - and healthier-looking - - skin; at a cost every family can afford.
Have a great Summer 2007!!
L. Scott Fitzpatrick
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If the sun pill is worthless than Heliocare must be too as they contain the exact same freakin ingredient: Polypodium Leucotomos. This is so ridiculous!
You can buy Polypodium Leucotomos for a lot cheaper from iherb or vitacost without the special name, "helicoare" on it. $58. BARF. Companies must think we are awfully naive. |
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Tue May 18, 2010 6:19 am |
Also do your research. Polypodium Leucotomos has very limited research on it. Absolutely none long term.
What you do find when you search is this:
"Polypodium leucotomos seems to be safe when used appropriately for only two days"
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Side Effects: Changes in heart function, increased heart rate, low blood pressure, itchiness, sedation, upset stomach.
IMO, use this plant very carefully. |
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Thu May 20, 2010 5:47 am |
| ml_ja wrote: |
Also do your research. Polypodium Leucotomos has very limited research on it. Absolutely none long term.
What you do find when you search is this:
"Polypodium leucotomos seems to be safe when used appropriately for only two days"
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Side Effects: Changes in heart function, increased heart rate, low blood pressure, itchiness, sedation, upset stomach.
IMO, use this plant very carefully. |
Limited research?
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Anti-psoriasis Actions:
- Navarro-Blasco, F. J., et al. “Modification of the inflammatory activity of psoriatic arthritis in patients treated with extract of Polypodium leucotomos (Anapsos).” Br. J. Rheumatol. 1998; 37(8): 912.
- Vasange, M., et al. “A sulphonoglycolipid from the fern Polypodium decumanum and its effect on the platelet activating factor receptor in human neutrophils.” J. Pharm. Pharmacol. 1997; 49(5): 562–617.
- Vasange, M., et al. “Flavonoid constituents of two Polypodium species (Calaguala) and their effect on the elastase release in human neutrophils.” Planta Med. 1997; 63(6): 511–17.
- Vasange, M., et al. “The fern Polypodium decumanum, used in the treatment of psoriasis, and its fatty acid constituents as inhibitors of leukotriene B4 formation.” Prostaglandins Leukotrienes Essent. Fatty Acids 1994; 50: 279–284.
- Tuominen, M., et al. “Effects of calaguala and an active principle, adenosine, on platelet activating factor.” Planta Med. 1992; 58(4): 306–10.
- Jimenez, D., et al. “Anapsos, an antipsoriatic drug, in atopic dermatitis.” Allergol. Immunopathol. 1987; 15(4):185–9.
- Jimenez, D., et al. “Anapsos modifies immunological parameters and improves the clinical course in atopic dermatitis.” Dermatologica 1986; 173(3):154–5.
- Pineiro Alvarez, B. “2 years personal experience in anapsos treatment of psoriasis in various clinical forms.” Med. Cutan. Ibero. Lat. Am. 1983; 11(1): 65–72.
- Vargas, J., et al. “Anapsos, an antipsoriatic drug which increases the proportion of suppressor cells in human peripheral blood.” Ann. Immunol. 1983; 134C(3):393–400.
- Del Pino Gamboa, J., et al. “Comparative study between 120 mg. of anapsos and a placebo in 37 psoriasis patients.” Med. Cutan. Ibero. Lat. Am. 1982; 10(3): 203–8.
- Capella Perez, M. C., et al. “Double-blind study using ‘anapsos’ 120 mg. in the treatment of psoriasis.” Actas Dermosifiliogr. 1981; 72(9-10): 487-94.
- Mercadal Peyri, O., et al. “Preliminary communication on the treatment of psoriasis with anapsos.” Actas Dermosifiliogr. 1981; 72(1–2): 65–8.
- Padilla, H. C. “A new agent (hydrophilic fraction of Polypodium leucotomos) for management of psoriasis.” Int. J. Dermatol. 1974; 13(5): 276–82.
Sunscreen & Skin Cellular Repair Actions:
- Reyes, E., et al. "Systemic immunomodulatory effects of Polypodium leucotomos as an adjuvant to PUVA therapy in generalized vitiligo: A pilot study." J. Dermatol. Sci. 2006; 41(3): 213-6.
- Capote, R., et al. "Polypodium leucotomos extract inhibits trans-urocanic acid photoisomerization and photodecomposition." J. Photochem. Photobiol. B. 2006; 82(3): 173-9.
- Middelkamp-Hup, M. A., et al. “Oral Polypodium leucotomos extract decreases ultraviolet-induced damage of human skin.” J. Am. Acad. Dermatol. 2004 Dec; 51(6): 910-8.
- Middelkamp-Hup, M. A., et al. “Orally administered Polypodium leucotomos extract decreases psoralen-UVA-induced phototoxicity, pigmentation, and damage of human skin.” J. Am. Acad. Dermatol. 2004; 50(1): 41-9.
- Philips, N., et al. “Predominant effects of Polypodium leucotomos on membrane integrity, lipid peroxidation, and expression of elastin and matrixmetalloproteinase-1 in ultraviolet radiation exposed fibroblasts, and keratinocytes.” J. Dermatol. Sci. 2003 Jun; 32(1): 1-9.
- Alonso-Lebrero, J. L., et al. “Photoprotective properties of a hydrophilic extract of the fern Polypodium leucotomos on human skin cells.” J. Photochem. Photobiol. B. 2003 Apr; 70(1): 31-7.
- Alcaraz, M. V., et al. “An extract of Polypodium leucotomos appears to minimize certain photoaging changes in a hairless albino mouse animal model. A pilot study.” Photodermatol. Photoimmunol. Photomed. 1999; 15(3–4): 120–26.
- Gonzalez, S., et al. “Topical or oral administration with an extract of Polypodium leucotomos prevents acute sunburn and psoralen-induced phototoxic reactions as well as depletion of Langerhans cells in human skin.” Photodermatol. Photoimmunol. Photomed. 1997; 13(1–2): 50–60.
- Pathak, M. A., et al. “Polypodium extract as photoprotectant.” U.S. patent no. 5, 614, 197; 1997.
- Gonzalez, S., et al. “Inhibition of ultraviolet-induced formation of reactive oxygen species, lipid peroxidation, erythema and skin photosensitization by Polypodium leucotomos.” Photodermatol. Photoimmunol. Photomed. 1996; 12(2): 45
- Mohammad A. “Vitiligo repigmentation with Anapsos (Polypodium leucotomos)." Int. J. Dermatol. 1989; 28(7): 479.
Anti-Alzheimer’s & Brain Cell Protection Actions:
- Alvarez, X. A., et al. “Double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled pilot study with anapsos in senile dementia: effects on cognition, brain bioelectrical activity and cerebral hemodynamics." Methods Find. Exp. Clin. Pharmacol. 2000; 22(7): 585–94.
- Cacabelos, R., et al. “A pharmacogenomic approach to Alzheimer’s disease.” Acta Neurol. Scand. Suppl. 2000; 176: 12–19.
- Alvarez, X. A., et al. “Anapsos improves learning and memory in rats with Beta-Amyloid (1-28) deposits in the hippocampus” Progress in Alzheimer's and Parkinson’s Diseases, Ed. Fisher, A., Yoshida, M. and Hannin, I., Plenum Press, New York, 1998; pp. 699-703
- Nikolov, R. “Alzheimer's disease therapy - an update.” Drug News Perspect. 1998 May; 11(4): 248-55.
- Alvarez, X. A., et al. “Anapsos reverses interleukin-1 beta overexpression and behavioral deficits in nbM-lesioned rats.” Methods Find. Exp. Clin. Pharmacol. 1997; 19(5): 299–309.
- Fernandez-Novoa, L., et al. “Effects of Anapsos on the activity of the enzyme Cu-Zn-superoxide dismutase in an animal model of neuronal degeneration.” Methods Find. Exp. Clin. Pharmacol. 1997; 19(2): 99–106.
- Quintanilla A. E., et al. “Pharmaceutical composition of activity in the treatment of cognitive and/or neuroimmune dysfunctions.” U.S. patent no. 5,601,829; 1997.
Anti-inflammatory Actions:
- Punzon, C., et al. “In vitro anti-inflammatory activity of Phlebodium decumanum. Modulation of tumor necrosis factor and soluble TNF receptors.” Int. Immunopharmacol. 2003; 3(9): 1293-9.
- Manna, S. K., et al. ”Calagualine inhibits nuclear transcription factors-kappaB activated by various inflammatory and tumor promoting agents.” Cancer Lett. 2003; 190(2): 171-82.
- Navarro-Blasco, F. J., et al. “Modification of the inflammatory activity of psoriatic arthritis in patients treated with extract of Polypodium leucotomos (Anapsos).” Br. J. Rheumatol. 1998; 37(8): 912.
Immune Modulating Actions:
- Reyes, E., et al. “Systemic immunomodulatory effects of Polypodium leucotomos as an adjuvant to PUVA therapy in generalized vitiligo: A pilot study.” J. Dermatol. Sci. 2006; 41(3): 213-6.
- Nogal-Ruiz, J. J., “Modulation by Polypodium leucotomos extract of cytokine patterns in experimental trichomoniasis model.” Parasite. 2003 Mar; 10(1): 73-8.
- Sempere-Ortells, J. M., et al. “Anapsos (Polypodium leucotomos) modulates lymphoid cells and the expression of adhesion molecules.” Pharmacol. Res. 2002; 46(2): 185–90.
- Gonzalez, S., et al. “An extract of the fern Polypodium leucotomos (Difur) modulates Th1/Th2 cytokines balance in vitro and appears to exhibit anti-angiogenic activities in vivo: Pathogenic relationships and therapeutic implications.” Anticancer Res. 2000; 20(3a): 1567–75.
- Sempere-Ortells , J. M., et al. “Effect of Anapsos (Polypodium leucotomos extract) on in vitro production of cytokines.” Br. J. Clin. Pharmacol. 1997; 43(1): 85–9.
- Bernd, A., et al. “In vitro studies on the immunomodulating effects of Polypodium leucotomos extract on human leukocyte fractions.” Arzneimittelforschung. 1995; 45(8): 901–4.
- Rayward, J. et al. ”Polypodium leucotomos (PL), an herbal extract, inhibits the proliferative response of T. lymphocytes to polyclonal mitogens.” Second Intl. Cong. on Biol. Response Modifiers, San Diego, U.S.A. 1993.
- Tuominen, M., et al., “Enhancing effect of extract Polypodium leucotomos on the prevention of rejection on skin transplants” Phytotherapy Research 1991; 5: 234–37.
Antioxidant Actions:
- Garcia, F., et al. "Phenolic components and antioxidant activity of Fernblock, an aqueous extract of the aerial parts of the fern Polypodium leucotomos." Methods Find Exp. Clin. Pharmacol. 2006 Apr; 28(3): 157-60.
- Gombau, L., et al. “Polypodium leucotomos extract: Antioxidant activity and disposition.” Toxicol. In Vitro. 2006 Jun; 20(4): 464-71.
- Gomes, A. J., et al. “The antioxidant action of Polypodium leucotomos extract and Kojic acid: Reactions with reactive oxygen species.” Braz. J. Med. Biol. Res. 2001; 34(11): 1487–94. |
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Thu May 20, 2010 6:49 am |
| Wow, Josh! Great researching skills. Thanks! |
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Thu May 20, 2010 2:47 pm |
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Also do your research. Polypodium Leucotomos has very limited research on it. Absolutely none long term.
What you do find when you search is this:
"Polypodium leucotomos seems to be safe when used appropriately for only two days"
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Side Effects: Changes in heart function, increased heart rate, low blood pressure, itchiness, sedation, upset stomach.
IMO, use this plant very carefully. |
Wow,
that is a lot of info.
I don't think I'll be testing this product.
The last thing I need is heart problems or blood changes.
I just fainted outdoors 3 weeks ago and fell on myface on the sidewalk.
The hospital has not found any cause thugh, as i take no supplements. |
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Thu May 20, 2010 5:16 pm |
A "Sun Pill", that sounds ridiculous, not to mention the extreme side effects! Wow, but I bet people will be popping them like candies. I say this because most people just take the MD's advice and never question or ask what the side effects may be. As well, the sun provides the MOST bioavailable Vitamin D. Seriously, those little synthetic Vit D supplements are almost useless, as you absorb so little. In addition, the over use of sunscreen by most women has been linked to severe vitamin D deficiency, and cancer. There is a massive medical report I actually read, and that is why all cancer patients are recommended massive amounts of Vit D. Although, the sun is not technically dangerous if you go out in the late afternoon, and are not tanning for hours on end. I used to get a base tan each summer to protect my very fair skin from burning. In this way I would not need sunscreen for my body. I did however use a mineral makeup of SPF 20 for my face. Nevertheless, I am 36 and most people are shocked beyond belief that I that age due to my youthful skin.
Anyways, I say stay away from scary pharmaceuticals, unless you are deathly allergic to the sun and that is your ONLY option. For the rest of us, just buy some quality sunscreen and enjoy the nice weather of summer.. |
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Thu May 20, 2010 8:55 pm |
Apologies for taking the thread slightly off track, but I wanted to address the comments below.
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| As well, the sun provides the MOST bioavailable Vitamin D. Seriously, those little synthetic Vit D supplements are almost useless, as you absorb so little. In addition, the over use of sunscreen by most women has been linked to severe vitamin D deficiency, and cancer. |
Fortunately for me, those little synthetic Vit D supplements pulled me out of major "lack of energy rut" because I had virtually no Vit D (and I do NOT wear sunscreen on a daily basis).
After 3 months of taking the appropriate levels of a Vit D supplement, my blood tests showed dramatically higher Vit D levels and I actually had to reduce my Vit D dosage to bring it down to optimal levels. 1 pill a day (5,000ius) has now kept my Vit D levels stable at optimal levels for the past 3 years, and my energy has been restored.
Unfortunately, the sun will NOT provide all the Vit D that people need anyway (see below), so those of us that live in very sunny areas (like me) should feel free to use whatever means they like to limit their sun damage. But please make sure that you supplement your Vit D, since limited sun + the modern diet means we are not getting enough naturally.
The article below is completely footnoted with all research references. If anyone has anything to the contrary, please share a link to the appropriate research article.
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The Miracle of Vitamin D
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The current suggested exposure of hands, face and arms for 10-20 minutes, three times a week, provides only 200-400 IU of vitamin D each time or an average of 100-200 IU per day during the summer months. In order to achieve optimal levels of vitamin D, 85 percent of body surface needs exposure to prime midday sun. (About 100-200 IU of vitamin D is produced for each 5 percent of body surface exposed, we want 4,000 iu.) Light skinned people need 10-20 minutes of exposure while dark skinned people need 90-120 minutes.11
Latitude and altitude determine the intensity of UV light. UV-B is stronger at higher altitudes. Latitudes higher than 30° (both north and south) have insufficient UV-B sunlight two to six months of the year, even at midday.12 Latitudes higher than 40° have insufficient sunlight to achieve optimum levels of D during six to eight months of the year. In much of the US, which is between 30° and 45° latitude, six months or more during each year have insufficient UV-B sunlight to produce optimal D levels. In far northern or southern locations, latitudes 45° and higher, even summer sun is too weak to provide optimum levels of vitamin D.13-15 A simple meter is available to determine UV-B levels where you live.
Vitamin D From Food
What the research on vitamin D tells us is that unless you are a fisherman, farmer, or otherwise outdoors and exposed regularly to sunlight, living in your ancestral latitude (more on this later), you are unlikely to obtain adequate amounts of vitamin D from the sun. Historically the balance of one's daily need was provided by food. Primitive peoples instinctively chose vitamin-D-rich foods including the intestines, organ meats, skin and fat from certain land animals, as well as shellfish, oily fish and insects. Many of these foods are unacceptable to the modern palate.
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Modern diets usually do not provide adequate amounts of vitamin D;17 partly because of the trend to low fat foods and partly because we no longer eat vitamin-D-rich foods like naturally reared poultry and fatty fish such as kippers, and herring. Often we are advised to consume the egg white while the D is in the yolk or we eat the flesh of the fish avoiding the D containing skin, organs and fat. Sun avoidance combined with reduction in food sources contribute to escalating D deficiencies. Vegetarian and vegan diets are exceptionally poor or completely lacking in vitamin D predisposing to an absolute need for UV-B sunlight. Using food as one's primary source of D is difficult to impossible.
http://www.westonaprice.org/The-Miracle-of-Vitamin-D.html |
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Thu May 20, 2010 10:53 pm |
Interesting information. I am associated with one of the most cutting edge individuals in Canada, who is a brilliantly successful visionary and entrepreneur within the global world of supplements (both medically & holistically). He personally said that the idea of taking excessive Vit D is ludicrous (obviously if you are deficient than its necessary). Hence, people are so terrified of getting any sun exposure because they think it will inevitably lead to skin cancer. Obviously if you live in an extremely hot country or geographic location its different than most of us who are negotiating the moderate levels of sunshine available.
Ironically, most chemical sunscreens have been linked to skin caner (there has been several studies conducted on this matter), and are toxic to ones body. He basically thinks we are so paranoid and so easily influenced by all the latest, greatest crazes; such as taking excessive amounts of Vitamin D. Furthermore, excessive amounts of Vitamin D has extremely severe negative health consequences if taken for long periods of time in excessive amounts (fat based vitamins are stored in the body). I have worked for years with numerous health/medical practitioners, and have extensively read various academic literature related to various health issues.
In my expertise of holistic health and medical anthropology, I am well versed in contentious issues related to which supplements are beneficial and why.
In addition, there is so much information out there that is actually bunk. Hence, the clip relating to how much sun exposure verses vitamin D absorption is available. I would have to consult an actual empirical study to be sure that this statement is accurate. Therefore, it is easy to pull something off the Internet, however anyone who is an academic knows full well that information to be deemed of any importance must be validated with solid evidence..... |
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Thu May 20, 2010 11:08 pm |
| Feliz, how about what to do for preventing hyperpigmentation then? |
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Thu May 20, 2010 11:44 pm |
| margarett wrote: |
| Feliz, how about what to do for preventing hyperpigmentation then? |
Exactly what I was thinking.
I'm not scared of skin cancer as much as I'm scared of pigment and wrinkles. |
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