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sissily
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Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:43 am  |
Hi! I am new to this forum. I am 40 years old and live in sweden. My skin has been rather good so far but now things has happened quite fast. Last year I got sick and because of my illness the doctors has put me in menopause. My skin has started to sag and has gotten very dry. I can cope with the dryness but my sagging upper eyelids is really bothering me. The things I have tried so far, without sucess is: Isomers Fast lift Eye Serum, Isomers One 3000 for eyes, Shiseido Benefiance Eyecream(good for moisture though), Instant Eye Tuck, brushing with toothbrush to stimulate collagen production... nothing. Does any of you ladies know the solution to my problem. I am prepared to try (almost)anything to firm my upper eyelids again. Sorry about my sometimes bad english! Thank you in advance!
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Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:00 pm |
First of all, sorry to hear about your medical problems. Us women have enough to deal with, without early menopause or at least sudden menopause being thrown in the mix!
This is just my opinion so gather advice from as many members as possible and make your own final decision based on your comfort level of the advice, your financial situation, and to what degree this skin change / upper eye problem truly bothers you.
If your upper eye lid hooding is minor, you might be able to get a good enough lift to correct the problem through Botox or the new Fractional Laser (reasonably priced with little down down). I will try the fractional laser when my time comes because you have the short recovery, it stimulates your own collagen to rebuild and in the right skilled hands can produce great results that can last 2-3 years.
It is my personal opinion that no eye cream (regardless of the promises or rave reviews) will produce any truly noticeable results with upper lid hooding.
Another worthwhile alternative to turn back some damage and to prevent further skin damage (or accelerated aging) is the use of Bio-Identical HRT. See a specialist in this area for more information and blood tests to gage your current hormone levels.
HTH |
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sissily
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Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:08 am |
Thank you so much for your answer. I will seriously think of your recomendations about botox and other treatments. Until then, is there anyone getting some sucess with some firming cream or serum for upper eyelid? My problem is not so big yet. Perhaps i can reverse it just a little or at least prevent it from getting worse? Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:49 am |
sissily, if your upper eye sag is still relatively minor, try avon anew Clinical eye lift - it has two parts, one for the lower eye, and a fantastic tightening gel for the upper eye. I really do notice a difference in my upper eyes being a tad more saggy when I dont use this for a week or so..it must have some tightening effect and it makes my eyes look wider and more awake. The lower eye cream is ok, but I really only buy it for the upper eye gel now..
It doesnt work for everyone, but its very cheap on eBay, so worth a try - give it a good go and dnt expect miracles!
http://shop.avon.com/shop/product.aspx?pf_id=33437 |
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32, still using: OCM, vitc C, epidermx, ageless (for my lips), now added clarisonic, silk pillow and Aldi skincare! Skin is better than ever 31, medium olive skin, combination-oily. Staples: epidermx II, OCM, retin-a, vit c powder, facial exercises (ageless). |
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sissily
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Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:49 am |
Thank you Mowgli! that sounds interesting. I even might try it out! 
Anyone else who have tried it?
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msalisbury
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Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:16 am |
I use two Elysee products that keep my eye lids from sagging, they are Fountain of Youth Gel
and Firmance Pycnogenol Serum. |
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Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:30 pm |
I think surgery is prob the only thing that works really well.
Probably when my eyes are no longer satisfactory to me I will get eyelid surgery.
Right now my eyes are ok,and I only need a different surgery for one eye muscle...but am not up to doing anything this year.
Maybe in a few months..not too sure.
surgery on your eyelids is not that bad.
you are usually awake when they slice your eyelid open and they only freeze that part of your face!
No idea of the prices though as I did not have to pay (insurance/gov't did) |
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Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:42 pm |
| I had upper eyelid sagging and crinkling, but not enough excess skin to justify surgery, which I was hoping to avoid, anyway. I had a fairly deep peel performed around the eyes by a PS with an erbium laser and it worked to smooth and tighten the skin beautifully. There is recuperation time involved, but for me, it was very worth it and the result has lasted for over 2 years and counting. |
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Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:39 pm |
| I find that the Results RX Eye Doctor product is wonderful for around the eye area. It is expensive though and there is probably another copper peptide product out there that is just as good. |
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Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:59 pm |
I had surgery on my eye lids for that very problem. I can't speak about the long term results yet, because I only had the surgery a few weeks ago. My eyes already look better than they did - even my husband noticed that my eyes look more awake and young looking. It was done in my dr's office. The recovery time hasn't been too bad and the cost wasn't too high compared to most procedures.
The incision scar is almost competely hidden in the fold of my eye. Even though I only had the surgery a short time ago, most people can't tell I had surgery. My eyelids are a little discoloured, but it looks like I have eye shadow on. I was told that it would take about 3 months before I would see the true benefit of the surgery, but I am already happy with the results.
It also feels SO much better. I used to feel like I had a truck sitting on my eyebrows. That heavy feeling has left - even with the swelling, it is still better than before. |
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Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:48 pm |
| Hi Cecilia--I ditto what TheresaMary says. Facial exercises can be really effective here and they are much cheaper than botox of surgery. Eva Fraser, Ageless if You Dare, Facercise, and FlexEffect all have good eye exercises to firm up that area. Good luck! |
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SteveP
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Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:02 pm |
I've got some information on the blepharoplasty upper eyelid surgery that will be of interest to some of you. I need to put in a link though, so I'll need to lurk here for a bit before it will let me post it.
In the meantime, I'll see if I can summarise the details in a second message!
Nice to meet you all anyway! |
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Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:02 pm |
Hi Steve,
Welcome !!
What I did when I first came was I copied the link into my message and then deleted the "www" or beginning of the link ... or I would would separate the link by putting the www on one line and then put the rest of the link on the line below.
As long as you don't have the link together, you can still put the info on there. Hope that makes sense !! |
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Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:11 pm |
| SteveP wrote: |
I've got some information on the blepharoplasty upper eyelid surgery that will be of interest to some of you. I need to put in a link though, so I'll need to lurk here for a bit before it will let me post it.
In the meantime, I'll see if I can summarise the details in a second message!
Nice to meet you all anyway! |
Hi and welcome Steve,
We can also post the link for you if you tell us the site name, I do that when I see new members who can't post a link just yet. |
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SteveP
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Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:48 am |
At the company I work for, there has been a lot of chat in the
office about this product:
eyelidlift.co.uk/lidlift.html
If you are thinking of eyelid surgery, this is meant to be a cheaper, easier way to try out how it will look, without having to get the surgery.
It's a new cosmetic product that apparently gives the same results. (Although you re-apply each
day, or whenever you want to get the effect.)
I know a couple of the girls in the office have been raving about it recently!
It's not a cream, but actually little invisible strips that you apply which hold the upper eyelid up. You can't see them when they are on, and they work with make-up apparently. When they were showing me the difference in the office I wasn't sure what I was looking for in the first place, as I hadn't heard of droopy or saggy eyelids before! Being a guy, I guess I'm unaware of a lot of these things! I see the difference now though.
I haven't tried it myself, but there's a video on that site that shows
a bit more about the product. Worth a look anyway?
I'd be interested to know your opinions on here.
Steve. |
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havana8
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Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:46 am |
Hi sissily,
Have you read the copper peptides thread? I have not tried them yet, but have ordered them. Some of the posters say they have had very good results on hooded eye areas and that is one of my concerns as well. Take a look at the skin biology site and see what you think. |
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Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:23 pm |
| i think the serious problem should be ask for the surgery doctor.The skincare product works little on it, and some eyecream can not use on the upper lid. |
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Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:45 pm |
Steve,
I have seen similar little tapes advertised here in the US, but never have I seen them in person so to speak.
You have actually seen these little wonders at work and they don't show at all? I always thought that they would after a while of wearing. Very interesting. |
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Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:02 pm |
Wow. Thanks for posting this Havana. I have been trying to decide if I should purchase the full jar of this, as it has made a noticeable different under my eyes. However, I never even dawned on me to try it for my lids! |
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Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:51 pm |
OOOOH Riley is that the eye cream you got a sample of with the ANR concentrate? Is it perfumey or mild? I am dying to know??? 
PS Thanks Havana! Keeping fingers crossed! |
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Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:19 pm |
I'm going to vote for facial exercises as well. My right eyelid drooping was the reason I first came to this site. After a year of trying to update my skin care regime I finally began facial exercises. The ones that really worked for me were Flex Effect. It took a few months but my right eye is sooo much more open. Also, my lids are really much thicker - a look I find flattering. I can wear eye shadow for the first time in years. I am truly amazed and thankful!
Facial exercises cost little and are non-invasive. If they work, you might be able to skip surgery. Good luck! |
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Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:51 pm |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
OOOOH Riley is that the eye cream you got a sample of with the ANR concentrate? Is it perfumey or mild? I am dying to know???
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Yes, I have a sample of the Advanced Night Repair Eye Cream. I actually don't smell anything from it, but it is definitely not perfumey. |
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