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Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:48 pm  |
Has it ever happened after using the galvanic before?
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Have anybody heard of developing allergies to Retin-A over time?
Here is my story. I started Retin-A 0.025 in June 2010 once a week for a first month, then moved to twice a week.
After finishing my first tube i moved to 0.04 micro. I am almost finished this second tube.
Today i woke up with all my face itching like crazy AND swollen ....
Why? I didn't do anything new. I haven't combined it with anything.
The only cause i can think of - i used the day before my galvanic SPA. That could increase my skin sensibility.
But, does that mean i can't use Retin-A anymore? I love it! It cleared my face and improved my skin texture.
I only hope i can still use serums and creams containing retinoids.
Gosh! It is still itching so much, i can't wait to get home and start applying some aloe vera on my face and neck. |
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Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:50 pm |
This may be a stupid question but, same type and brand?
It may be something in the base that you developed an allergy too. Just throwing another thought out?
Take some benadryl or any antihistamine to help the itching!
Sorry this happened! |
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Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:18 pm |
Atiyya:
I am sure this reaction is not to galvanic. I did galvanic treatments multiple times before. But it does make skin more responsive to topical's for the couple of days.
It always counted as an advantage. Well, not in my case 
DarkMoon:
Thank You for reminding me about antihistamines. I totally forgot about it. I'll take it when i get home.
In regards to the brand of R-A, this is the last few drops of the tube. That what i was using last few months with absolutely no negative reactions.
Wait ..... stupid me!!!! I washed my face with glycolic face wash . I always picked the other one on Retin-A nights.
That could be the answer. |
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Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:09 pm |
| Are you using a conductive gel with the galvanic device? |
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Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:29 pm |
| I use Retin A Cream 0.05% mixed with either Obagi Blend FX or Skinoren (Azelaic Acid) Cream. |
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Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:46 pm |
YB,
I am glad you mentioned the glycolic face wash, I mainly cleanse with OCM, but I have a glycolic wash I use sometimes like after a mask. I will remember not to do that before applying, mine should be here in the next week or 2.
I hope the antihistamine helps! |
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Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:11 pm |
Keliu:
Yes, of course, i am using appropriate gel with galvanic device. As i said, i am sure galvanic spa just increased the sensitivity of my skin.
But this is what it supposed to do.
DarkMoon:
I was reviewing other topics. Many EDS members actually using Retin-A after glycolic face wash with no problem.
Oil - that what i usually did before Retin-A.
I guess i picked glycolic, because i just finished reading "Skin Care The Beautiful Skin Workout" by Michelle Copeland, M.D.,
this evening. Her method CEAMP (clean, exfoliate, activate, moisturize, protect) is definitely very convincing.
I was trying to remember what else i did this evening. I took 1000 mg of vitamin C few days in a raw.
I remember reading somewhere it can conflict with Retin-A too.
But that would be all. Nothing else for sure |
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Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:24 pm |
With allergic reactions it can be very difficult to find what set it off. It could even have been something you ate.
I doubt that it would have been the glycolic wash or the Retin-A. But I think the only thing you can do is to stop absolutely everything and take an antihistamine. When the swelling and irritation has gone, re-introduce your products one by one and see how you go. |
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Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:39 pm |
| My plan exactly. |
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Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:04 pm |
| YB wrote: |
| My plan exactly. |
Sounds like the best plan, I agree with Keliu you just never know with allergic reactions, unless it's after something not usual for you. Even then they can show up out of the blue. |
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Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:22 pm |
| Thank You ladies. I really appreciate your support. |
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Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:49 pm |
| YB wrote: |
| Thank You ladies. I really appreciate your support. |
I hope things have subsided some? |
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:12 pm |
Those using a Retin-A type product, do you spot treat problem areas for aging skin, or do you apply evenly over the entire face?
I have been prescribed Tretinoin in the past for "age spots" on the face, and I only applied it to the spots.
But now...I'd like to make my skin look better overall. My skin is currently pale, dull, lifeless looking and the skin on the eyelids and surrounding eye tissues has thinned so they look purplish. The area around my mouth has some "sagginess". I've been doing Ageless for 8 months straight, and I don't look any better. I am 50.
I would like to address the pale, dull, lifeless look my skin has acquired. Can Retin-A products help with this? Any help appreciated. |
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:19 pm |
YB: are you still using oil?
This is what happened to me: a few months ago I got red itchy bumps on my face. My routine had been the same for about 4 months when this occurred. I had been using the same brand of retin-A, vit C serum, sunscreen, and cleanser for about 2 years and jojoba oil for 4 months. I stopped everything, except for the jojoba oil. For some misterious reason, I thought the oil cannot be the culprit. The allergy got worse over a few days. I took OTC anti-histaminics with no effect. I went to the doctor; he asked if there is any recent change in my diet, topicals, detergent, etc. No. He wrote a prescription for a stronger anti-histaminic. Now, I was also sleepy in addition to swollen and itchy. I decided to stop the oil with the risk of getting desert-dry skin. The allergy started to go away.
It may not be the oil in your case; I thought I'd share this in case it is... |
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:43 pm |
Thank You Luciana.
It is probably not my case, because the night before i woke up with allergy symptoms i only washed my face (with glycolic face wash, that was probably a mistake), toned it with my usual toner (no alcohol, of course) and put my Retin-A (i use already several months). Nothing else topical. I took this evening also 1000 mg vit C internally.
So i guess the reaction was either from combination glycolic & Retin-A or Retin-A & vitC.
I was expecting my condition to get better over night, since i took 2 pills of antihistamine and an oil topically to calm my face. Now you made me realize THAT was probably a mistake too. I woke up again itching with my face swelling. And now, thanks to you, i know why. I shouldn't put oil on top of my red face.
I have long history of bad reaction to jojoba oil (strange ha?). But i was always ok with grape seed oil ... Guess not in my current condition.
Anyway, tonight i'll clean my face with eye make up remover only and put some aloe vera - THAT'S IT. |
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:21 pm |
| Kandi wrote: |
Those using a Retin-A type product, do you spot treat problem areas for aging skin, or do you apply evenly over the entire face?
I have been prescribed Tretinoin in the past for "age spots" on the face, and I only applied it to the spots.
But now...I'd like to make my skin look better overall. My skin is currently pale, dull, lifeless looking and the skin on the eyelids and surrounding eye tissues has thinned so they look purplish. The area around my mouth has some "sagginess". I've been doing Ageless for 8 months straight, and I don't look any better. I am 50.
I would like to address the pale, dull, lifeless look my skin has acquired. Can Retin-A products help with this? Any help appreciated. |
Hi Kandi, I use Retin-A all over my face, neck & decolletage. You will notice improvement in a few months but just start out slow till your skin adjusts.
Do you use a vit.c serum? My skin starts to look more dull if I go a period of time without a C serum. RA & vit.c serum both made a big difference for me with the issues you mentioned. HTH |
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:41 pm |
I made a research on my reaction to Retin A and here is what i found.
Please read, so you do not repeat my mistakes .
The source: http://www.healthgrades.com/drug-ratings/drug/sideeffects/15275/retin-a%20micro
This medication may make you more sensitive to the sun. Avoid prolonged sun exposure, tanning booths, and sunlamps. Weather extremes such as wind or cold may also be irritating to the skin. (Well, it is below 20F here in NY with wind. (' ')).
This drug should not be used with the following medications because very serious interactions may occur: products containing alpha hydroxy acid, products containing glycolic acid.
(Exactly what i did. (' ') )
Avoid electrolysis, waxing and chemical depilatories for hair removal on the treated areas while using this product. If you have recently used products containing sulfur, resorcinol or salicylic acid, use tretinoin with caution. Wait until the effects of such products on the skin have decreased before using tretinoin.
Before using this medication, tell your doctor or pharmacist of all prescription and nonprescription/herbal products you may use, especially of: hair perming solutions, alcohol/lime/menthol-containing products (such as astringents, toners, shaving lotions), medicated or abrasive soaps and cleansers, products containing sulfur, resorcinol or salicylic acid, soaps and cosmetics with a strong drying effect, other drugs that may increase your sensitivity to sunlight (e.g., fluoroquinolones such as ciprofloxacin, tetracyclines, thiazide water pills such as hydrochlorothiazide, sulfa drugs such as sulfamethoxazole, phenothiazines such as chlorpromazine). Benzoyl peroxide can be very irritating and may decrease the effectiveness of tretinoin if the two products are applied at the same time.
I guess i will come back to Retin A after all, just keeping all the above in mind. (' ') |
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:00 pm |
YB,
I am copying that to notes so I have a handy reference for when I start! Sorry I learned from your bad experience but thank you for posting valuable information! |
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:24 pm |
YB I suspected the glycolic acid.I do not use anything but a plain cleanser and moisturizer when on retin A.Retn A is so awesome and does such a good job at exfoliating i dont find it necessary to use other products to irritate the skin further.
| YB wrote: |
I made a research on my reaction to Retin A and here is what i found.
Please read, so you do not repeat my mistakes .
The source: http://www.healthgrades.com/drug-ratings/drug/sideeffects/15275/retin-a%20micro
This medication may make you more sensitive to the sun. Avoid prolonged sun exposure, tanning booths, and sunlamps. Weather extremes such as wind or cold may also be irritating to the skin. (Well, it is below 20F here in NY with wind. ('')).
This drug should not be used with the following medications because very serious interactions may occur: products containing alpha hydroxy acid, products containing glycolic acid.
(Exactly what i did. ('') )
Avoid electrolysis, waxing and chemical depilatories for hair removal on the treated areas while using this product. If you have recently used products containing sulfur, resorcinol or salicylic acid, use tretinoin with caution. Wait until the effects of such products on the skin have decreased before using tretinoin.
Before using this medication, tell your doctor or pharmacist of all prescription and nonprescription/herbal products you may use, especially of: hair perming solutions, alcohol/lime/menthol-containing products (such as astringents, toners, shaving lotions), medicated or abrasive soaps and cleansers, products containing sulfur, resorcinol or salicylic acid, soaps and cosmetics with a strong drying effect, other drugs that may increase your sensitivity to sunlight (e.g., fluoroquinolones such as ciprofloxacin, tetracyclines, thiazide water pills such as hydrochlorothiazide, sulfa drugs such as sulfamethoxazole, phenothiazines such as chlorpromazine). Benzoyl peroxide can be very irritating and may decrease the effectiveness of tretinoin if the two products are applied at the same time.
I guess i will come back to Retin A after all, just keeping all the above in mind. ('') |
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Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:04 am |
Hi Atiyya,
Well, i was under the impression that Retin-A can help you with many things: re-building collagen and elastin, improve skin texture, help with acne and hyper-pigmentation,
smooth the fine lines , BUT you do need to exfoliate. Some how you need to remove from your skin all these peeling and flaking caused by Retin A.
Retin A helps our skin to re-generate faster, but you still need something to remove the dead cells.
Obviously, not every one can do it the same day. We also have to play with concentrations. Too many goodies at the same time - isn't good |
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Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:05 pm |
| Have you tried a light scrub? |
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Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:53 pm |
Sure, but for my thin skin it is not a good option. I do use microdermabrasion cream once every 7-10 days.
Thank You for asking though. |
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Sun May 15, 2011 9:03 am |
I have a very acne prone skin, with large pores, and pitted acne scars from cystic acne that I had in my 20s( 37yr now). I got acne around 12yr old and tried a range of prescription and non prescription remedies throughout the years, nothing worked.
Two years ago, I stopped everything I used and went to a derm.
below is my current routine
tazorac .1%, used to use every night but now several times a week. If it gets flaky I just take few days off.
5% benzoyl peroxide wash 1-2 times. It keeps breakouts at bay. It is not the best for the skin though. I noticed slowed healing of acne or scars if I used it often
cetaphil moisturizer.
I also did 12 sessions of microdermaabrasion. Two weeks intervals. Doctor used a "turbo" setting, which would give me redness for 24hrs. Now I do maintenance microdemaabrasion every few months ( expensive but works)
My skin has never looked better.
I think combination of tazorac and minimum product use helped a lot. |
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Fri May 27, 2011 1:10 pm |
| For me, I combat retin-a peelies with a yogurt lemon juice asprin mask. I don't have particularly sensitive skin, but am always afraid of any manual exfoliation while on retin-a. |
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Fri May 27, 2011 3:09 pm |
I had the same once. Do not use Retin A and galvanic during the same time period. As well as avoid using any AHA, BHA or Vit C products, if you have sensitive skin.
That said though, you are right that skin still requires exfoliation because, as far as I know, Retin A is not an exfoliator.
Have you tried microdermabrasion?
| YB wrote: |
Have anybody heard of developing allergies to Retin-A over time?
Here is my story. I started Retin-A 0.025 in June 2010 once a week for a first month, then moved to twice a week.
After finishing my first tube i moved to 0.04 micro. I am almost finished this second tube.
Today i woke up with all my face itching like crazy AND swollen ....
Why? I didn't do anything new. I haven't combined it with anything.
The only cause i can think of - i used the day before my galvanic SPA. That could increase my skin sensibility.
But, does that mean i can't use Retin-A anymore? I love it! It cleared my face and improved my skin texture.
I only hope i can still use serums and creams containing retinoids.
Gosh! It is still itching so much, i can't wait to get home and start applying some aloe vera on my face and neck. |
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