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Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:34 am  |
| Stardustdy wrote: |
Hi Dee, can u tell me the ingredients in it? Btw, r u acne prone? It says it's tinted, so how's the tint like? Thanks! |
Ingredients for Obagi Rosaclear Skin Balancing Sun Protection SPF 30:
Zinc Oxide 15.5% Titanium Dioxide 2.0%. Alumina, Butylparaben, Cetearyl Alcohol, Coco-glucoside, C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, Dipropylene Glycol, Ethylparaben, Glycerin, Hydroxyethyl Acrylate/Sodium Acryloyldimethyl Taurate Copolymer, Iron Oxides, Isobutylparaben, Isohexadecane, Isopropyl Titanium Triisostearate/Triethoxycaprylylsilane Crosspolymer, Methylparaben, Mica, PEG-6, Phenoxyethanol, Polyhydroxystearic Acid, Propylparaben, Tocopheryl Acetate, Triethoxycaprylylsilane. |
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Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:36 am |
| Yes I am acne prone and it does not break me out at all. The tint is good for hiding blemishes and uneven skin tone. |
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Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:08 am |
| Josh wrote: |
| Just keep in mind if you use it as a booster (as in, adding it into a moisturiser), you are not getting anywhere near SPF 30. |
Actually, you can get SPF 30 as long as you apply after you've applied your moisturizer. Only if you mix it into your moisturizer will you decrease its SPF (according to dermalogica) |
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Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:09 am |
| Dee28 wrote: |
| Yes I am acne prone and it does not break me out at all. The tint is good for hiding blemishes and uneven skin tone. |
Is it good for darker skin tones? |
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Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:21 am |
| I just found LaVanilla physical sunscreen. I love it, I have never read anything about it anywhere, but its the first one that I've tried doesn't migrate and doesn't look like chalk or feel greasy. |
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Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:48 pm |
| oasisjc wrote: |
| Josh wrote: |
| Just keep in mind if you use it as a booster (as in, adding it into a moisturiser), you are not getting anywhere near SPF 30. |
Actually, you can get SPF 30 as long as you apply after you've applied your moisturizer. Only if you mix it into your moisturizer will you decrease its SPF (according to dermalogica) |
Which is exactly what I said. |
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Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:34 am |
| I have been using DermaDoctor Body Guard SPF 30 Oil-Free for Face and Body Sunscreen for about 6 years now (on my face). I love it and have tried others (such as SkinCeuticals), but always go back to the DermaDoctor. I like that it doesn't make me breakout (I have oily skin with blemishes at times) and it dries to a nice matte finish. No white cast on the skin. But, now I am looking for a higher SPF sunscreen. I am looking at the Kate Somerville Protect SPF 55 Serum Sunscreen(oil-free) at Sephora, it's expensive though at $45. |
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Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:56 pm |
| calorblind wrote: |
hahaha ive been loading up on my sunscreen
sunscreen spf 50+, then follow up with a spf 50+ bb cream, and finally a powder pact with spf 50+
spf 150 !! lol |
Your level of protection is still spf 50. You have three layers of protection but the spf does not increase. |
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Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:00 pm |
| Josh wrote: |
| oasisjc wrote: |
| Josh wrote: |
| Just keep in mind if you use it as a booster (as in, adding it into a moisturiser), you are not getting anywhere near SPF 30. |
Actually, you can get SPF 30 as long as you apply after you've applied your moisturizer. Only if you mix it into your moisturizer will you decrease its SPF (according to dermalogica) |
Which is exactly what I said. |
Oh I just thought you meant that there was no way of getting the acclaimed SPF with boosters |
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Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:12 pm |
| So I just recently spoke with an esthetician and she told me that physical sunscreens are not good for acne prone skin because the tiny particles can enter the pores and occlude them. I was pretty disappointed by this because I've heard from other people that it's good for acne-prone skin because it's not as irritating. So is it true or not? |
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Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:41 pm |
| oasisjc wrote: |
| So I just recently spoke with an esthetician and she told me that physical sunscreens are not good for acne prone skin because the tiny particles can enter the pores and occlude them. I was pretty disappointed by this because I've heard from other people that it's good for acne-prone skin because it's not as irritating. So is it true or not? |
As with many things, it depends. ZO is slightly drying and has helped many acneic folks, and TD is a larger molecule, so maybe more likely to clog. However, both are often fine in a makeup-like formulation designed to just sit on top of skin and not penetrate. Good cleansing is a bit more difficult with many ZO formulations, so that's a factor too. |
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Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:31 pm |
| Darn, just when I thought I found the perfect physical sunscreen too =/ |
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Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:14 pm |
| I picked up a bottle of Cliniderm SPF45 the other day and I am really liking it. Non irritating and drys to a nice smooth matte finish...but it is micronized. So what is the consensus on the safety of micronized physical sunscreens? TIA |
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Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:16 pm |
Personally, I believe in allowing a little sunshine for my kids because it is the best source of Vitamin D. However, research also shows that you only need about 20 minutes a day to receive adequate Vitamin D.
On the other hand, there are also studies (and I will try and locate them later, I am too tired now - it is bedtime here, LOL), that indicate the chemicals in many sunscreens are actually causing cancer too, so you are damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Thanks for sharing. |
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Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:33 pm |
| brierrose wrote: |
| I picked up a bottle of Cliniderm SPF45 the other day and I am really liking it. Non irritating and drys to a nice smooth matte finish...but it is micronized. So what is the consensus on the safety of micronized physical sunscreens? TIA |
I think the consensus is that micro is safe, but nano not. |
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30-ish, sensitive fair skin, oily and acne-prone, faded freckles; tretinoin since Oct 2010 |
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Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:03 pm |
| brierrose wrote: |
| I picked up a bottle of Cliniderm SPF45 the other day and I am really liking it. Non irritating and drys to a nice smooth matte finish...but it is micronized. So what is the consensus on the safety of micronized physical sunscreens? TIA |
I bought that and it really does look great on skin. However, it may have been the culprit to my recent blackhead outbreak on my nose (due to the clogging abilities of the physical sunscreens) or it may have been my reaction to BHA's. I plan to re-introduce it into my skin routine soon to see if that really is what caused me to break out, so I'll let you guys know when that happens. |
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Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:44 am |
I've tried a few and Devita is one of the better ones. Neutregena sheer balls up on me so I stopped using it. Might have to do with the various layers of skincare?
Karin Herzog works well for me too but I think the level of protection might not be enough for me when I'm outdoors for extended number of hours.
I've just ordered from EDS Skin Biology Day Cover as well as Jan Marini Spf30. |
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Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:55 am |
| rockhugger wrote: |
| brierrose wrote: |
| I picked up a bottle of Cliniderm SPF45 the other day and I am really liking it. Non irritating and drys to a nice smooth matte finish...but it is micronized. So what is the consensus on the safety of micronized physical sunscreens? TIA |
I think the consensus is that micro is safe, but nano not. |
No that is not the consensus. There is hand wringing and fear mongering about nano size physical sunscreen but it has never been shown to be harmful. Zinc oxide, definitely harmless no matter what when applied to the skin in a cream/lotion type formulation. Titanium dioxide did show some harm but when I read the studies they injected the titanium dioxide into the veins of the rats and that's not how we apply sunscreen.
But yes, micro is certainly safe.
Regarding acne- that's a shame that someone told you that physical sunscreen is not good for acne prone skin Not true at all. |
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Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:06 am |
The ingredients look good to me.
May you buy one jar & tell us how you find it  |
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Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:52 am |
| Nimue wrote: |
| rockhugger wrote: |
| brierrose wrote: |
| I picked up a bottle of Cliniderm SPF45 the other day and I am really liking it. Non irritating and drys to a nice smooth matte finish...but it is micronized. So what is the consensus on the safety of micronized physical sunscreens? TIA |
I think the consensus is that micro is safe, but nano not. |
No that is not the consensus. There is hand wringing and fear mongering about nano size physical sunscreen but it has never been shown to be harmful. Zinc oxide, definitely harmless no matter what when applied to the skin in a cream/lotion type formulation. Titanium dioxide did show some harm but when I read the studies they injected the titanium dioxide into the veins of the rats and that's not how we apply sunscreen.
But yes, micro is certainly safe.
Regarding acne- that's a shame that someone told you that physical sunscreen is not good for acne prone skin Not true at all. |
Even the EWG (Environmental Working Group) notoriously cautious about ingredients rescinded their stance not only on micro but nano sized particles.
""When we began our sunscreen investigation at the Environmental Working Group, our researchers thought we would ultimately recommend against micronized and nano-sized zinc and titanium dioxide. After all, no one has taken a more expansive and critical look than EWG at the use of nanoparticles in cosmetics and sunscreens, including the lack of definitive safety data and consumer information on these common ingredients, and few substances more dramatically highlight gaps in our system of public health protections than the raw materials used in the bizarre and burgeoning field of nanotechnology. But 18 months, 800 products, and nearly 400 peer-reviewed studies later, we find ourselves drawing a different conclusion, and recommending some sunscreens that contain nano-sized ingredients.”
Nano Zinc Oxide? Hundreds of Studies Show It’s Safe! Really! | Clean Green Cafe" |
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I'LL SEE YOU ON THE DARKSIDE OF THE MOON.... |
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Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:28 am |
If I recall correctly, they were not 100% confident in their recommendations regarding nano particles, but on balance, decided that between the two evils - sun damage or nanos - sun damage was worse.
When in doubt, wear it.
Which one to wear? HA HA HA - that is a completely different story.
BF |
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Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:48 am |
| Barefootgirl wrote: |
If I recall correctly, they were not 100% confident in their recommendations regarding nano particles, but on balance, decided that between the two evils - sun damage or nanos - sun damage was worse.
When in doubt, wear it.
Which one to wear? HA HA HA - that is a completely different story.
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They do say they find themselves recommending some brands containing nanoparticles! 
Which one indeed, and those of us in sunny, warm climates it's a year round staple. All should wear SS all days, but I know in Florida I wouldn't dream of going unprotected!! |
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Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:15 pm |
Thanks Everyone!! I'm so glad the micro is safe cause I'm really liking Cliniderm so far and now I can feel okay about using it!
Thanks to Autumn and oasisjc for recommending it! |
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