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Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:23 am  |
There're many products out there claiming to increase collagen production in the skin but what about elastin? I read that they both work hand in hand...without elastin, skin will sag and wrinkle as it's what holding it all up together. But sadly, topical can't do much as the molecules are not small enough to penetrate to the bottom of the skin. So I'm wondering if there're any internal supplement to replenish those elastin/ collagen in us as we age. But I also heard even those collagen supplement would go to the bones instead of the skin...so yeh pls share ladies!  |
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Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:07 am |
There's some research that zinc promotes elastin production: http://www.skinandaging.com/article/7850
Zinc is in some products by Relastin and Cellex-C, and often in healing ointments, like the Euro "Cica-" ones by LRP, Avene, and Bioderma, and I imagine that internal zinc is helpful too. (I wonder, however, if keeping the skin thick and plumped up with collagen goes a ways towards reducing the strain on the elastin fibers...) |
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Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:49 am |
| Actually, too much elastin in your skin can cause it to sag because you're basically allowing your skin to stretch. It's sort of like having a really long elastic band vs a very short one. If you pull either one, the long one won't be as "taut" as the short one so you probably don't want too much elastin in your skin |
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Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:13 pm |
The main supplements for this purpose would probably be zinc and copper in the correct ratios.
There was a study to measure the effects of a topical zinc-copper complex on elastin levels but have no idea if and how this translates to oral supplementation.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19400831 |
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Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:24 pm |
| oasisjc wrote: |
| Actually, too much elastin in your skin can cause it to sag because you're basically allowing your skin to stretch. It's sort of like having a really long elastic band vs a very short one. If you pull either one, the long one won't be as "taut" as the short one so you probably don't want too much elastin in your skin |
Think it would be more like a thicker elastic band and thus more resilient skin. |
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Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:39 am |
| I did not notice anything improved after using up 2 jars of Relastin |
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Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:07 pm |
| Dee28 wrote: |
| oasisjc wrote: |
| Actually, too much elastin in your skin can cause it to sag because you're basically allowing your skin to stretch. It's sort of like having a really long elastic band vs a very short one. If you pull either one, the long one won't be as "taut" as the short one so you probably don't want too much elastin in your skin |
Think it would be more like a thicker elastic band and thus more resilient skin. |
from what I know,elastin can't be constructed in that manner as each elastin fibre has a specific structure. If your cells synthesize more elastin by making them thicker, the structure would be compromised, which would not be good for your skin. |
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Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:10 pm |
Topical collagen and elastin
Collagen and elastin are important structural components of the skin. Loss of collagen and elastin in the dermis (the inner layer of the skin) leads to wrinkles and facial sag, whereas replenishing these substances in the dermis may partially reverse signs of aging. Nonetheless, creams with collagen and elastin are useless because these substances are large proteins which cannot penetrate the skin deep enough to have any lasting effect. Fortunately, ways to introduce collagen into the dermis do exist (see the article on Collagen in the Treatments section of this site).
http://www.smartskincare.com/smartchoices/waste.html |
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Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:24 am |
I use a cream called Elastica bounceback cream.
I have used it for years, considering being a skin care junkie that says a lot, lol!! |
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Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:31 am |
| oasisjc wrote: |
from what I know,elastin can't be constructed in that manner as each elastin fibre has a specific structure. If your cells synthesize more elastin by making them thicker, the structure would be compromised, which would not be good for your skin. |
Found these studies to show elastin stimulation (in vitro). To me it appears the elastin content has increased in all dimensions, both length and thickness as well as there just generally being more of it.
http://www.pg100.com/riutort/resources/designs/forticelle/elastin_fibrillin.htm |
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Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:58 pm |
DarkMoon, so I guess the only way to increase collagen & elastin production is to undergo injection huh? Nothing topical is gonna work then  So all those cream/serum that claims to increase collagen production is not true? 
Oh well, anybody out there taking a Zinc Complex supplement? & how does that help in terms of your skin? Or any supplement out there that can help? Thanks! |
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