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free skin care · Mon May 23, 2011 9:55 am

majorb wrote:

If he lived in the UK, he could have applied for a super injunction.

So who is the footballer whom the Scottish newspaper exposed? Who is the family man actor? Anyone else named on Twitter? I don't have Twitter so I am curious. Any cheating women with super injunctions?

free skin care · Mon May 23, 2011 11:39 am

DarkMoon wrote:

Penta wrote:

Don't be mean, guys. Maybe he got tired of the overly made up, plastic look and prefers them more natural? Or maybe she had a really nice, loving personality?

Sorry Penta, it is just many actress over the years have said he got rather frisky, putting it nicely. The one picture I saw may have been a bad rag mag type photo? Question

Regarding her lovely personality, I find it a stretch for a woman to sleep with another woman's husband and yet be a nice decent person.

Yeah, point taken. But still, I don't think bashing a woman on the basis of her looks is a nice thing to do. It makes me really sad that women are judged on their outer appearance to this extent. Now here's a nice possibility to make a perfectly reasonable assumption about somebody's character: People could have said that she has a terrible personality because she slept with a married man. But nobody did.

I know it's a fact of life that we are judged more harshly on our looks than men but it's still sad.

free skin care · Mon May 23, 2011 12:33 pm

SoftSkin:-

Ryan Giggs
Hugh Bonneville

free skin care · Mon May 23, 2011 12:39 pm

Penta wrote:

DarkMoon wrote:

Penta wrote:

Don't be mean, guys. Maybe he got tired of the overly made up, plastic look and prefers them more natural? Or maybe she had a really nice, loving personality?

Sorry Penta, it is just many actress over the years have said he got rather frisky, putting it nicely. The one picture I saw may have been a bad rag mag type photo? Question

Regarding her lovely personality, I find it a stretch for a woman to sleep with another woman's husband and yet be a nice decent person.

Yeah, point taken. But still, I don't think bashing a woman on the basis of her looks is a nice thing to do. It makes me really sad that women are judged on their outer appearance to this extent. Now here's a nice possibility to make a perfectly reasonable assumption about somebody's character: People could have said that she has a terrible personality because she slept with a married man. But nobody did.

I know it's a fact of life that we are judged more harshly on our looks than men but it's still sad.

I agree about bashing anyone based on looks, It was a tad of my silly humor, and the media do their best to show people at their worst sometimes. So again I am sorry for that part of my comment.

I know infidelity runs rampant, but I find it unconscionable on the part of both parties, that doesn't make me think kindly of her or him.

free skin care · Mon May 23, 2011 12:44 pm

I'm surprised more women don't understand the truth about many men, particular the insecure or powerful - they marry the best looking option they can get, they sleep with whomever will sleep with them.

Are women so different? "I'll go out with the sweetest guy I can find, but only marry the best provided I can attract"

It's nice to be all sentimental, etc. but reality is what it is.

BFG

free skin care · Mon May 23, 2011 1:34 pm

DarkMoon wrote:

Penta wrote:

DarkMoon wrote:

Penta wrote:

Don't be mean, guys. Maybe he got tired of the overly made up, plastic look and prefers them more natural? Or maybe she had a really nice, loving personality?

Sorry Penta, it is just many actress over the years have said he got rather frisky, putting it nicely. The one picture I saw may have been a bad rag mag type photo? Question

Regarding her lovely personality, I find it a stretch for a woman to sleep with another woman's husband and yet be a nice decent person.

Yeah, point taken. But still, I don't think bashing a woman on the basis of her looks is a nice thing to do. It makes me really sad that women are judged on their outer appearance to this extent. Now here's a nice possibility to make a perfectly reasonable assumption about somebody's character: People could have said that she has a terrible personality because she slept with a married man. But nobody did.

I know it's a fact of life that we are judged more harshly on our looks than men but it's still sad.

I agree about bashing anyone based on looks, It was a tad of my silly humor, and the media do their best to show people at their worst sometimes. So again I am sorry for that part of my comment.

I know infidelity runs rampant, but I find it unconscionable on the part of both parties, that doesn't make me think kindly of her or him.

Yeah, that's very true. It's definitely a disgusting thing to do. Poor wife. Just imagine what that sort of betrayal does to a person. Sad

free skin care · Mon May 23, 2011 2:12 pm

^ Exactly. I find this story so upsetting.
I just don't know how people are able to move on and live their lives after such extreme betrayals of trust. I suppose if they grow up with a full extended family/support structure, aware that such things can go on even within immediate families without their even knowing, its might cushion the blows later on when it comes up in their own lives. So with this knowledge they're able to process it, recover and move on to taking risks again, knowing they'll be able to bounce back and survive.

I'm just wondering what happens to those who aren't in any way prepared and thus experience more severe emotional trauma. I wonder how those that successfully heal and get over feeling vulnerable & suspicious of the world, do that and move on to taking risks again.

free skin care · Mon May 23, 2011 3:27 pm

LoriA wrote:

^ Exactly. I find this story so upsetting.
I just don't know how people are able to move on and live their lives after such extreme betrayals of trust. I suppose if they grow up with a full extended family/support structure, aware that such things can go on even within immediate families without their even knowing, its might cushion the blows later on when it comes up in their own lives. So with this knowledge they're able to process it, recover and move on to taking risks again, knowing they'll be able to bounce back and survive.

I'm just wondering what happens to those who aren't in any way prepared and thus experience more severe emotional trauma. I wonder how those that successfully heal and get over feeling vulnerable & suspicious of the world, do that and move on to taking risks again.

I can certainly share my unexpected betrayal from loved ones. My reaction was not good. No matter how proactive I tried to be. It took years and sometimes you never recover from betrayal.

free skin care · Mon May 23, 2011 4:25 pm

Me too. Not one to resign myself to defeat, I've kept one foot in front of the other, but even after several years of bluffing my way through, its obvious I'm keeping literally everyone at arms length.
This is kind of common to the human experience though and people have managed to connect and thrive after far worse scenarios than mine, so there are solutions out there to be found!

free skin care · Mon May 23, 2011 5:46 pm

Holmes wrote:

SoftSkin:-

Ryan Giggs
Hugh Bonneville

Ryan Giggs is in all the papers now (never heard of him) but no mention of Hugh so far. Not exactly a big star, in my opinion, but perhaps he is in the UK.

free skin care · Tue May 24, 2011 12:46 am

clustersof3 wrote:

Keliu wrote:

rmc7 wrote:

Sickening...why the hell wouldn't he call me? Wink

He did call - but you were out. He left a message, he said "I'll be baaaack!"

OMG!!!! Good one! Cool

LOL,Keliu,too funny!!!

free skin care · Tue May 24, 2011 3:02 am

SoftSkin wrote:

Holmes wrote:

SoftSkin:-

Ryan Giggs
Hugh Bonneville

Ryan Giggs is in all the papers now (never heard of him) but no mention of Hugh so far. Not exactly a big star, in my opinion, but perhaps he is in the UK.

Ryan Giggs is very famous over here. HB is well-known at the moment for being in "Downton Abbey", although he has appeared in many other things over the years - including "Doctor Who" very recently.

Some of the UK newspapers, gagged as they were by the super injunction, kept publishing pictures of the two with their wives with the tiniest of veiled hints. In the meantime, anyone with access to the Internet immediately googled them to find out.

I wouldn't normally bother with famous idiots who are care so little about their wives and families that they can't keep their trousers on, but this super injunction business is a danger to free speech and must be stopped. In any case, it has backfired spectacularly and made sure that everyone wants to know their identities - even people like myself who normally aren't particularly interested in celebrity gossip.

free skin care · Tue May 24, 2011 3:06 am

SoftSkin wrote:

Any cheating women with super injunctions?

I don't know of any. Whilst some women do cheat, I think that many of them appear to be have the ability to exercise more control over the contents of their underwear than men (either that or they're more discreet!)

free skin care · Tue May 24, 2011 9:26 am

Skincare wrote:

LoriA wrote:

^ Exactly. I find this story so upsetting.
I just don't know how people are able to move on and live their lives after such extreme betrayals of trust. I suppose if they grow up with a full extended family/support structure, aware that such things can go on even within immediate families without their even knowing, its might cushion the blows later on when it comes up in their own lives. So with this knowledge they're able to process it, recover and move on to taking risks again, knowing they'll be able to bounce back and survive.

I'm just wondering what happens to those who aren't in any way prepared and thus experience more severe emotional trauma. I wonder how those that successfully heal and get over feeling vulnerable & suspicious of the world, do that and move on to taking risks again.

I can certainly share my unexpected betrayal from loved ones. My reaction was not good. No matter how proactive I tried to be. It took years and sometimes you never recover from betrayal.

My high school boyfriend cheated on me when I was 16, kissing another girl. I didn't even particularly like him but it sure stayed with me.
So I can only imagine what it would be like to endure a full-fledged betrayal. Ugh. Just the thought of it makes my tummy turn.

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