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Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:53 am  |
In conjunction with another thread going about potentially "bad" effects of LED, here is a study that shows positive results.
I agree with the other thread that we must look at these things to know what treatments are doing. So I continued to research and found this and wanted to share it, as many of us are using LED that includes infrared technology.
Please note, I'm creating a seperate thread for this study so the information is not lost within another thread. If you guys feel it is best to combine the threads, maybe I can go back and do that with an editing function. In any case, I really just didn't want this to get lost in the proverbial shuffle. (certainly am not posting a different thread to be contrary or combative, in other words...  )
I hope we can create a good discussion between both threads.
Here's the link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2687728/
Cheers to all!! |
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Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:50 pm |
| my personal experience, the red light really speeds up wound healing, like really really fast healing...like magical..so it is definitely beneficial in the short-term... however I can't say about the effects of long term continued usage of red light and /or infrared..... |
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Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:04 pm |
| redtigerwoman wrote: |
In conjunction with another thread going about potentially "bad" effects of LED, here is a study that shows positive results.
I agree with the other thread that we must look at these things to know what treatments are doing. So I continued to research and found this and wanted to share it, as many of us are using LED that includes infrared technology.
Please note, I'm creating a seperate thread for this study so the information is not lost within another thread. If you guys feel it is best to combine the threads, maybe I can go back and do that with an editing function. In any case, I really just didn't want this to get lost in the proverbial shuffle. (certainly am not posting a different thread to be contrary or combative, in other words... )
I hope we can create a good discussion between both threads.
Here's the link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2687728/
Cheers to all!! |
The above study is for far infrared radiation; LEDs use near infrared, so this study is not applicable.
Have you taken the time to read the LED threads at EDS? There is a wealth of information on this site, including links to many studies as well as opinons from experts/manufacturers. You may also want to read the FIM lamp thread if you are interested in the effects of far infrared radiation (I mentioned the above noted study on that thread). |
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Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:34 am |
Thanks Lacy, I see you are correct, it is a study for FIR.
To answer your question, yes I have spent countless hours reading. Staying up too late, in fact, reading. (I really must stop doing that and go to bed earlier!  )
There is vast information here; I have missed information about studies, which is unfortunate, now I have to go back and re-read!
For anybody interested, here is a study about NIR that intrigued me. It shows results on collagen (scar tissue) with NIR treatment. Please note though the treatment in this study used NIR of 1100 to 1800 nm. Our LEDS do not go that high, generally...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21437069
Lastly, linked below is another study that indicates orange and near infrared were effective in increasing collagen (and destroying the exotoxin that negatively impacts collagen). "The greatest increase in collagen I and decrease in collagenase (MMP-1) was observed with 75/25% ratio of 590/870 nm."
here's the link for more... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20662030 |
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Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:57 pm |
lastly, here is another study that is important for us using infrared-A in our LEDS.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10677564
this topic has really encouraged me to dig. first, i don't want to hurt my skin, second, i want the best results possible. |
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Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:51 am |
That's interesting that in the study that Lacy posted that IL-6 (Interleukin-6) decreased but TNF-alpha (Tumor Necrosis Factor Alpha) increased. I wonder why that happened....?
I also found the paper http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20662030 particularly interesting. In the long-term, I think it will be important to determine
(1) What wavelengths are most beneficial for the skin?
(2) What ratios of these wavelengths are optimal?
(3) Are there any negative effects from certain wavelengths and/or doses?
Thanks for all this great info and for finding those papers, redtigerwomen and Lacy! |
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