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Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:54 pm      Reply with quote
Not every website you visit tells the truth about face exercises. Some sites mix the truth with lies and it can be a big set up for disappointment when the evidence posted is not really from face exercises.

As many of you know, I am a huge proponent of face exercises. I have done them for years and have seen how effective they are and know of others who've had the same results. I also have known that not every program will give good results and that sometimes exercises that work for one may not work for the next person.

I get excited every time I see face exercises being discussed because it's about time the secret I have known for years but was too shy (or selfish) to share is finally out. But what makes me sad--and the reason for his thread--is when I find a program that is dishonest and smells like a scam. And even if the program may work, the fact that the author uses images that are from other procedures makes the whole program lose any credibility it might have had. And I thought you all should be warned about it, lest you fall for the lies and get disappointed.

Here's the website I found today that at first seemed to be replete with info on face exercises and initially had me excited. Take a look then come back and read what I found out about it: http://facialexercisecentral.com/facial-exercise-before-and-after/

Sadly, those photos' results are not from face exercises. The source of the photos is given as this one, but here's the truth about those photos as they appear on that source:

The results seen in the first set of photos posted on ie these:

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...are not from Face Reflexology taught by Anne Cossé but rather from a micro-current device called Arasys Profector. You will find that image in several sites that talk about the gadget. Here are a few:

http://www.jsrcreations.com/non-surgical-facelift.html

http://betterskin.wordpress.com/about/

http://www.dermaclinica.ba/tehnologije/arasys-perfector/arasys-reference/


The results seen in the second image are from using a product called Younique Nature's Non-Surgical FaceLift that is a topical cream.

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The person featured even wrote in her review of the product and it is posted here: http://vibrantuco.com/category/uncategorized/

The third results seen on that website are those of Anne Cossé and may or may not be from acupressure. (BTW I do believe in acupressure and reflexology so I don't doubt it may be effective but I don't understand why she didn't just get a few guinea pigs to try it out and then use their images and keep everything on the up and up. The fact that this set of photos were not used on the Facial Exercise Central which led me to her site, makes it even more bizarre. Seems only the photos that might have been REAL results were the ones not shared on the FEC site. Hmmm... Neutral )

The fourth set of photos literally left me speechless because it shows how far some people will go to deceive. The photos aren't even easy to come by and only seemed to appear on just these two sites, besides the original site. I am talking about these:

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They are from a website that shows before/after photos of Facial Feminization Surgery that transsexuals might get to soften their features. Here's the link: http://facialfeminization.eu/2010/11/kim-full-ffs/

The fifth set of photos might be legit (but that could also be why they weren't posted on the site that led me to this one. Maybe the subject didn't want her photo posted on another site). I say that because I couldn't find the images anywhere else but on the Facelift Naturel site.


The sixth photos showing improvement in bags, as shown here:

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...are from injecting Hyaluronic acid according to this website: http://www.acide-hyaluronique.fr/

The seventh set of photos can be found on websites that do Botox as the before/after pics for that procedure:

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See these links:

http://www.mdlaserskin.ca/Photo-Gallery.page

http://www.larsoneyecenter.com/chicago/cosmetic-services/botox.htm

http://advancelasercenter.com/botox-cosmetic.html

Returning to the Facial Exercise Central website--which seems to be very much in favor of Ms Cossé so probably a site she's affiliated with--the first photos posted are also not from reflexology or any face exercises. I'm talking about these:

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This is the link to Rejuve website page on Restalyne where they came from and you can see the actual image with captions on this page.

Shame isn't it? It's bad enough that cosmetic surgeons discredit face exercises because they have a lot to lose if people believed in them: I mean, they'd lose their business if people found they could get the results they give naturally, so I can understand their reasons. But when someone decides to masquerade as a guru of face rejuvenation using "natural methods" then instead of posting results from her program, posts those from other sites that were not achieved the way she claims they were and is selling a product to unsuspecting victims, it makes me so mad that I cannot be quiet about this. She gives face exercises a bad name and is cruel to take advantage of unsuspecting people promising them unicorns that she may not be able to deliver. Mad

Anyway, while the authors of the two sites I talked about may not post facts, I do want to mention that I own a book or two on acupressure and that I do think acupressure is good not just for facial exercises but as a way to remove toxins and as a remedy for other conditions. Lindsay Wagner has a book on acupressure facelift. She may not be line-free but she looks good to me and very natural, I might add. I think sometimes we get so used to seeing people looking plastic and like they are stuck in a windtunnel that we forget what natural is and fail to appreciate faces that are aging beautifully/gracefully and that hint at a history of laughs, warmth/kindness, and a life well lived.
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:47 pm      Reply with quote
Thank you. I enjoyed the story of Lindsay Wagner. Great to know. You have made me a fan.
Also You are right to provide a timely caution about scams in facial exercising. Of course it had to happen. I'm sure it's easy for people to 'sell' their face for the purpose of marketing. And true enough: Shame on the lot of them, especially the person who is taking the lead or promoting the facial exercise program.

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Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:42 pm      Reply with quote
Everyone just seems to be so passionate about their programs, which I do get!
Its just that it seems to escalate to the point of not recognizing that an opinion is just that, and we are all entitled to one. And I for one appreciate that right!
We have lost too many good contributers here for lack of respecting those qualities (and each other). Sad
Thanks for taking the time to share the pitfalls of false advertising such as that.
Caveat emptor!

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Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:33 pm      Reply with quote
Wow amazing post.
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Tue May 29, 2012 7:45 pm      Reply with quote
Alpham wrote:
Hi,

Just wanted to say that I actually bought and tried Anne Cosse's facial acupressure programme, and it works! The comments below her Youtube videos convinced me to try, and it worked. There are hundreds of positive comments about the exercise, so how can it be a scam?

Anyways, I just wanted to share that the programme is not a scam. And maybe the pictures have been borrowed by the other sites, not the other way round?
You might want to try the free exercise on Youtube and judge by yourselves:


I take you for your word that Cosse's exercises works but those photos are not the other way around!!! This is a before and after result ( a very good one) of fillers not face exercises... And if a company is going to advertise with fake pix, they lose all credibility, at least in my eyes! 100%
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Wed May 30, 2012 10:12 am      Reply with quote
websites buy stock photos very often but stock photos must not be used to depict before n after results of the company's product! That's just plain wrong and totally unethical...
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Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:37 am      Reply with quote
Alpham wrote:
Ok just a quick update: she says that problem has been brought to her attention a long time ago, her webmaster took that wrong initiative (instead of posting the pics she sent him). It has been taken care of since then and she would appreciate if that thread would let go.
Anyways, I do enjoy her programme, you should try it!
Bye all!


The thread was let go months/weeks ago until you brought it up again!
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Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:18 pm      Reply with quote
Alpham wrote:
I understand what you are saying, but I find it extreme/inappropriate to bash a website/someone without even trying the service/product or contacting the person to know more.

Anyways, my intent is not to stretch that thread Smile I am happy with Cosse's offerings and I wanted to share. Very Happy


Alpham wrote:
Ok just a quick update: she says that problem has been brought to her attention a long time ago, her webmaster took that wrong initiative (instead of posting the pics she sent him). It has been taken care of since then and she would appreciate if that thread would let go.
Anyways, I do enjoy her programme, you should try it!
Bye all!


Alpham, I find it hard to believe that Cosse's website had been up and she herself didn't realize that the photos that were up were not of her clients...or never questioned why the ones she sent were not used. That's like someone opening a shop to sell one thing and then having no clue what it is that her shop sells. Laughing

If the new photos that are up now are the ones Cosse sent her webmaster (and I'm guessing they are otherwise the statement that the problem "has been taken care of" would not have been tossed out there), then she's no better than her webmaster. Because once again, she's used "stolen" photos from other websites that are promoting different products and has passed them off as being results from her program. Unbelievable!

Let's look at the photos on her before/after page we are being told have now fixed the problem with the previous photos.

First image shows results of ageLOC science. The model's name is Paula Ehrlich and her photos are on their results page:

https://www.nuskin.com/content/liveandlookyoung/en_NZ/before_after.html

Paula's photos are on every website that sells ageLOC so we can assume she truly is an ageLOC success story, not Cosse's.

More ageLOC sites:

http://www.howyouth.com/ageloc-transformation.html

http://mynubodyprogram.com/anti-aging.php

Second set of images I previously assumed were legit so Ms Cosse thought she had one over us and left them up (Tut tut!). Turns out that the pics are not even about face rejuvenation but rather an improved smile. The work of a Dr Perlin and his team at Smiles by Design. The model, Natalie Chenoweth actually writes a review by her photo:

http://www.smilesbydesignchicago.com/patient-stories/

Third set of photos are the results of Restalyne:

http://www.realself.com/photo/6279

http://www.sadriancosmeticsurgery.com/before-and-after-restylane-photos-page-1.html

http://www.skin-science.co.uk/Restylane.html#Before and after

Fourth set of photos belong to AltecMed and are their results. And Cosse clearly has no shame because she didn't even make an effort to find images without the AltecMed watermark. Laughing

http://www.altecmed.com.mx/accent-your-body/casos_cara.html

The fifth sets of photos are Thermage results:

http://www.locateadoc.com/pictures/karlin-jan-46196.html

http://www.novacosmeticcenter.com/thermage-orlando.php

The sixth set of photos are probably the only photos that Cosse has that she can claim are from her program: her own. Problem is, I don't believe they are natural. Not when she's lied TWICE about results one gets with her program. Tut tut!

The seventh set of photos are results from Laser Skin Tightening aka Face Contouring. I wonder if Dr Ilan Karavani has any idea that Cosse is passing these off as her accomplishment:

http://www.almalasers.com/skin_tightening.jsp

http://dolcevitamedicalspasalon.com/medical-services/face-contouring/

The next 5 sets of photos of eyes are from Thermage again. or to be exact "radiofrequence thermage du visage":

http://www.centre-medical-esthetique-martinique.fr/resultats-en-image/radiofrequence-thermage-visage-martinique?show=gallery

The photos of the lady lying down or facing up as well as the guy's forehead show the results of Botox injections (Did you notice how Cosse tried to hide the word "Avant" with that oval blot on the photo of the lady on her website? Laughing)

http://beaute-toulouse-samalens.com/beaute-toulouse-methodes-medicales-efficaces/beaute-toulouse-injections-esthetique/beaute-toulouse-effacement-rides-injections.html

So, Alpham do you still think this was all just a misunderstading--considering that your update seems to be directly from Cosse herself and you said the problem was taken care of? Still think it was inappropriate to bash a website full of lies? That we should've instead have contacted the author. What good did your contacting her do? A crook is a crook is a crook. Contacting a crook to tell him/her we can see right through his/her lies just makes him/her try harder to be a better deceivers. What needs to be done is what this website suggests. Cossé should be ashamed of herself.
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Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:59 pm      Reply with quote
Nonie! Long time! anyways how do you find all this stuff!
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Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:25 pm      Reply with quote
Hi everyone,

Sorry, my replies are way overdue, but here's my response to the general concern. I know it's quite long but it would be great if you could read it all

There's still such a poor understanding of the face that in 2015, people are still being told they can damage their faces with facial exercise. My programme is Ageless if you Dare. I could have chosen to write a little piddly exercise programme that demanded nothing of the facial muscles since facial training gets such a scary press but I wrote Ageless because it's the most effective and quick program I could devise . I see daily that it lifts and rejuvenates the face, and I know from experience that there's no possibility of permanent damage.

If you stop doing it everything will sag again, as surely as a limb loses its muscle if you don't exercise it. The mistake many people make is to think that after-effects of the exercises are permanent. They're not, just as your body doesn't remain achy forever after training A facial muscle can look tired after training but it rebuilds itself over a short period, and that's when you see a stronger, better-looking facial structure. It's like the 80s fear that building any body muscle at all would make women look like men and that the muscle would turn into fat if you stopped training.

No media is going to enlighten people about exercising the face? Our sources of beauty education, the beauty counter and magazines would prefer it to go away, because it's much much more effective than any product on sale and puts their ranges into perspective.

I'm going to post the first chapter of my book on my website for anyone who would like a fuller explanation.

Happy Christmas!

Loulou xx

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