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Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:26 am |
I'm in the need of a new cleanser, and before I go out and spend a fairly significant amount on one I got to thinking about it... Since it's something you're just washing off, do the ingredients make that much of a difference? I have found the serums, creams, and lotions that are working for my skin at the moment and was just wondering if anyone could tell me how important the "right" cleanser is. I can definitely tell when a cleanser isn't right (I tend to break out), but other than that, I don't know...
I do cleanse and tone twice a day (with various brands). In the morning I use NCN DNA Serum, followed by NCN CP Accelerator for oily skin, followed by Juice Beauty eye cream and oil free face lotion. In the evening I alternate nightly between Retin A cream and CP Serum. I am 41 years old with combination skin that can break out and am starting to get a few wrinkles around my eye area. Does anyone have any cleanser recommendations for me?
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_________________ Born in 1970 -> Dark hair, light eyes, fair skin, combo/oily, trying to deal with aging skin and the occasional breakout-->currently using DIY C serum, Retin-A, and physical sunscreen daily |
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:05 am |
IMO ... the cleanser is very important: it can soothe or irritate, hydrate or dehydrate, help repair the skin barrier or damage it, remove all traces of pollution and make up or not. Doesn't mean you need to spend $$$ tho, just read the ingredients.
My current cleanser is super budget (~$1.50) and contains: "water, sweet almond oil, glyceryl stearate, glycerin, cetearyl alcohol, PEG-100 stearate, cocoamidopropyl PG-dimonium chloride phosphate, hydroxy ethyl cellulose, parfum, disodium EDTA." Although it is formulated to be tissued off I use a muslin cloth and warm water. Does not appear to block pores, does not leave my skin tight, does not irritate my sensitive skin, can even be used over a rash. I switched to this from a foaming wash based on harsh sulphate surfactants and my skin seemed 'happier' right away. Many girls rave about OCM unclogging pores and leaving their skin dewy and that can be similarly cheap. |
_________________ Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:13 am |
very important. There are only few cleansers out there that are compatible with my dry, sensitive skin |
_________________ Late 20's, clarisonic, Vit C serum, hormonal acne, congested pores, combination skin, living in Vancouver Canada |
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:09 pm |
I like a cream based cleanser for my face. I also didn't like spending $17 for my favorite brand that only lasted not even a month. Then, I started using CeRave moisturizing cream which I love love love. They later came out with a facial cleanser in a pump. It costs $12 and lasts me about three months. I love it. You can purchase at wallgreens. |
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:24 pm |
Hi hotdoc - any parabens or nasties in the CeraVe cleanser? I use the cream on my body. |
_________________ Enjoying dermalogica with my ASG and Pico toner ** Disclosure: I was a participant without remuneration in promotional videos for Ageless Secret Gold and the Neurotris Pico Emmy event. |
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:42 pm |
@Firefox7275 $1.50 for a cleanser? Wow Super cheap.. is it bought or homemade?
I've also switched from cleansers that contain no sulphates, mineral oils parabens etc...I'm using my aspect dr deep clean cleanser which is lovely but I am looking for cheaper , but effective and good, alternative.Otherwise I like it. It does foam slightly.
I've been using the OCM method in the morning when my skin isn't that'dirty'. I don't find its cleared my pores but it does leave my skin feeling soft and not tight..I hate that tight feeling after cleansing as I've been told it means its too drying for your skin. It feels nice and is cheap and hasn't broken me out yet. Theres lots of info on the DIY board about it.
I think the right cleanser should be the simplest and least stripping on your skin. Doesn't have to be super $$$$ as PPs mentioned.
HTHs |
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:51 pm |
From their website it looks like cerave cleanser has paraben & a sulphate (drying)in one of the cleansers I saw. Here's their website & check it out for yourself. http://cerave.com/our-products/foaming-facial-cleanser/
Check it out and you can always google the other ingredients. |
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:41 pm |
dionie wrote: |
@Firefox7275 $1.50 for a cleanser? Wow Super cheap.. is it bought or homemade?
I've also switched from cleansers that contain no sulphates, mineral oils parabens etc...I'm using my aspect dr deep clean cleanser which is lovely but I am looking for cheaper , but effective and good, alternative.Otherwise I like it. It does foam slightly.
I've been using the OCM method in the morning when my skin isn't that'dirty'. I don't find its cleared my pores but it does leave my skin feeling soft and not tight..I hate that tight feeling after cleansing as I've been told it means its too drying for your skin. It feels nice and is cheap and hasn't broken me out yet. Theres lots of info on the DIY board about it.
I think the right cleanser should be the simplest and least stripping on your skin. Doesn't have to be super $$$$ as PPs mentioned.
HTHs |
YEY for sulphate free: I am totally evangelical about it!
That cleanser (Derma V10 brand) is purchased from a discount store here in the UK. I spent a fair bit of time reading labels before purchasing! IMO part of the reason it works for me are my muslin cloths, which helps get that clean feeling without any 'proper' surfactants. You might be able to prepare something similar by adding an emulsifier to your OCM mix? Some girls find they need to spend a lot of time massaging intially, which doesn't work with every schedule!
dionie wrote: |
From their website it looks like cerave cleanser has paraben & a sulphate (drying)in one of the cleansers I saw. Here's their website & check it out for yourself. http://cerave.com/our-products/foaming-facial-cleanser/
Check it out and you can always google the other ingredients. |
Parabens but no sulphates??  |
_________________ Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:51 pm |
@Firefox7275 I've also become so picky about what I put on my skin. I just reread my aspect dr ingerdients...or label on the back of the bottle and it actually says SLS free, so I dont even know if it contains other sulphates. It doesnt say sulphate free.Unfortunately the fact that they do not disclose a full ingredient list on their packaging or bottles does not sit well with me. This post has made me think more about my cleansing methods.
I like this cleanser by botanical blessings...
INGREDIENTS: Distilled water, Organic herbal infusions: Calendula, Nettle, Marjoram, Plantain, Chickweed. Aloe Vera, Witch Hazel, Macadamia nut oil, Apricot kernel oil, Emulsifying wax, Castile soap, Marshmallow Glycerite, Grapefruit seed extract, Rosemary extract, Kelp extract, Carrot seed oil. Essential oils of Rose Geranium, Lime, Peppermint, Eucalyptus, Rosemary.
What do you think? Otherwise I like your suggestion about adding an emulsifier to my OCM...but your right about the massaging. I tend to spend a full 1-3 minutes and that seems like an eternity
I wonder if DermaV10 is easily found in Australia...will look into it Thnx  |
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:12 pm |
It's very important as it can cause dehydration, irritation and dirt to accumulate if the proper cleanser is not used.
I personally use Paula's Choice and have been using it for almost a year now and have been consistently re-ordering it. However, I think it may contain parabens, but I can't remember at the moment. If you go to her website, she lists all the ingredients and what they're used for. |
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:18 pm |
I figure it's my FACE. I'm going to do right by it. So I use high-end cleansers: Chanel (milky), La Mer (milky) are two of my favorites. Clarins is nice, too, I'm currently using a sample. None of these cause any irritation (not a hint of pink), they removed MU well and work well with my Clarisonic. |
_________________ Natural blonde (fine, wavy); Blue eyes; Pale skin. Currently using mainly homemade beauty remedies and a touch of high end stuff. |
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:46 pm |
Cleanser is very important step but you don't need to spend alot of money on a cleanser. Your $ literately gets washed down the drain. A cleanser should clean your skin well without over drying it, no need to buy any cleansers with treatments in them.
I think Paula's Choice has some nice cleansers. I also use CeraVe on occasion (AM only, not great for removing makeup/SS). |
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:07 pm |
dionie wrote: |
@Firefox7275 I've also become so picky about what I put on my skin. I just reread my aspect dr ingerdients...or label on the back of the bottle and it actually says SLS free, so I dont even know if it contains other sulphates. It doesnt say sulphate free.Unfortunately the fact that they do not disclose a full ingredient list on their packaging or bottles does not sit well with me. This post has made me think more about my cleansing methods.
I like this cleanser by botanical blessings...
INGREDIENTS: Distilled water, Organic herbal infusions: Calendula, Nettle, Marjoram, Plantain, Chickweed. Aloe Vera, Witch Hazel, Macadamia nut oil, Apricot kernel oil, Emulsifying wax, Castile soap, Marshmallow Glycerite, Grapefruit seed extract, Rosemary extract, Kelp extract, Carrot seed oil. Essential oils of Rose Geranium, Lime, Peppermint, Eucalyptus, Rosemary.
What do you think? Otherwise I like your suggestion about adding an emulsifier to my OCM...but your right about the massaging. I tend to spend a full 1-3 minutes and that seems like an eternity
I wonder if DermaV10 is easily found in Australia...will look into it Thnx  |
That cleanser looks very soothing! I am a little wary of the strongly alkaline castile soap, BUT depends on the concentration because it is way down the list. Maybe e-mail the manufacturer for the pH? I would never do ANY time consuming beauty tasks if I had to do them at the start of my day! Maybe you could OCM in front of the TV if you watch any in the evening, even if it is not technically bedtime? I have a Lightstim on order and will definitely be taking my own advice or it will gather dust.  |
_________________ Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:30 am |
Thanks for all of your input. Maybe I'm lucky to have never had severely negative reactions to my cleansers (topicals have been another story though), but I will definitely look more at the ingredients before I purchase my next cleanser. I do use the OCM occasionally, and while I don't mind it, I don't think it's the "everyday" cleaning method for me. |
_________________ Born in 1970 -> Dark hair, light eyes, fair skin, combo/oily, trying to deal with aging skin and the occasional breakout-->currently using DIY C serum, Retin-A, and physical sunscreen daily |
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Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:11 am |
A mild cleanser is best. Don't buy any specialty cleansers, ie AHA, firming, brightening, etc, because they don't spend enough time on your face to work.
I use a a combination of OCM and a Desert Essence Nourishing Organic Cleanser. It doesn't have castile soap, and it's very gentle.
Here are the ingredients
Pyrus malus (apple) juice*, cocos nucifera (coconut) oil*, water (aqua), potassium hydroxide, helianthus annuus (sunflower) seed oil*, sesamum indicum (sesame) seed oil*, simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) seed oil *, citrus sinensis (sweet orange) oil*, guar gum* aloe barbadensis leaf juice *, chamomilla recutita (matricaria) flower extract*, cucumis sativus (cucumber) fruit extract*, nasturtium officinale extract (watercress)* |
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Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:39 am |
Choosing a cleanser is very important.
My theory is why spend a lot of money for something that is not supposed to penetrate your skin and is on for only a couple of minutes.
I explored Cellcosmet line and I was very happy with it, but I wanted to follow through with my theory and used a safe well known brand of Cetaphil.
I'm sick of using drugstore brands and this year, I will be exploring high end brands and go the opposite of my theory.
I plan to go back to Cellcosmet cream cleanser, because it works, it's gentle, non-drying, you don't need a toner to remove the cleanser and overall, it feels very nice on your skin. Even for a couple of minutes.
Currently, I am using Decleor cleansing milk. This is really good, but not as good as Cellcosmet.
My next purchase is to try Sisley, La Prairie and Avene cleansing milk. I've read all three are excellent also. |
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Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:59 am |
Very important, it can be too harsh, not cleasing enough so it doesn't remove all the makeup, etc. |
_________________ My blog: www.crystalcandymakeup.com |
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Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:37 am |
I think it's important as far as what type of skin you have and what kind of cleanser you use. But spending big bucks for a cleanser with fancy ingredients is a waste of money.
I think the cleanser should be basic and compatible with your skin type...nothing more. Those fancy ingredients do not spend enough time on your face to make a difference IMHO, therefore the cleanser should be one of the cheapest items in your arsenal. I never go over $10 for cleanser. |
_________________ Female: 42...Fair/Dry...Brown Hair/Green Eyes...Using: Born Again MSM Cream...Country Divine Emu Serum...Juvederm...Botox...Retin-A .05%...Easy Eye Solutions...Started 2/9/12 with Skin Bio Skin Signals Cream and TTT, Spot treating with TriRed |
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Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:19 am |
I agree with everyone else.
I think that a cleanser should clean well, be non-irritating, and that's all. |
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Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:42 am |
I think everyone will agree that we buy cleanser to suit our particular needs. Not necessararily expensive $$$ but any cleanser (or cream cleanser) that is non-irritating.
For me, it is extremely important to clean my face/or skin in the morning prior to putting make-up. Face that is not properly cleaned is just asking for trouble i.e. clogged pores and all that. Some of us put special night creams not even suitable for day wear.
I use an Obagi foaming cleanser and am happy using it for years. This lasts approx 6 months as I use pea-size every single time that I use it. In my opinion, it is gentle formulation with herbs, natural cleanser and aloe vera. It cleans my skin from pollutants without damaging my skin's natural moisture content and it also leaves my skin, not only clean but very soft to the touch.
I will only put make-up on my face AFTER I clean my face/skin, never on a dirty (or the night before cream) face, otherwise, no matter what, I will breakout!
Again, some people have different morning routine. And this is my routine. |
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rosaclinic
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Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:58 am |
i use toner because of pimple problem i cant use any cream.
face mask also helps alot in giving a fresh look to your skin. |
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Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:19 am |
choosing a good cleanser is very important as it manages your skin. im using cleansing cream made up of natural skin care coffee ingredients named cucina cosmetica. It works quite well for me. you can try that too |
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Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:50 pm |
I use natural soap to wash my face before I go to bed. Not the drug store soap that is actually detergent, but good quality hand made soap. Of course you can't get that on EDS. Normally these types of soaps only have a handful ingredients. I use mineral makeup only so removing it with soap and water is not an issue.
I also use glycolic cleansing gel on occasion. |
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Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:52 pm |
onmyboat wrote: |
A mild cleanser is best. Don't buy any specialty cleansers, ie AHA, firming, brightening, etc, because they don't spend enough time on your face to work.
I use a a combination of OCM and a Desert Essence Nourishing Organic Cleanser. It doesn't have castile soap, and it's very gentle.
Here are the ingredients
Pyrus malus (apple) juice*, cocos nucifera (coconut) oil*, water (aqua), potassium hydroxide, helianthus annuus (sunflower) seed oil*, sesamum indicum (sesame) seed oil*, simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) seed oil *, citrus sinensis (sweet orange) oil*, guar gum* aloe barbadensis leaf juice *, chamomilla recutita (matricaria) flower extract*, cucumis sativus (cucumber) fruit extract*, nasturtium officinale extract (watercress)* |
I disagree. I use glycolic acid gel and can really feel the difference after I use it. |
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hazber
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Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:50 am |
Cleansing is very important for skin as it make skin feel afresh.I want to know best cleanser for my skin as my face's t-zone is oily. |
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