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Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:41 pm  |
I tried Coral inc coral toothpaste and ended up with a cavity  Is there any good non toxic toothpaste or product that will help with good teeth-mouth hygiene? |
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Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:47 pm |
I'm using Jason toothpastes, they have a lot of good ones.
For strong "kick in the teeth" check out Seafresh, and for milder fruity taste - I like "Berry Mint gel"  I actually use different pastes throughout the day, don't know why. |
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Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:20 pm |
All the "natural" toothpastes in the stores have SLS in them, they're crap. I actually think PerioBrite is the best. Just look at the ingredients. Lately though I'm experimenting with other products like abrasive free essential oils and something called toothsoap, still getting used to it. I haven't found anything magically yet, but these all work good.
http://www.vitacost.com/NaturesAnswerPerioBriteToothpaste
Natural Toothpaste with Organic & Wildcrafted Herbs plus patented Extract of Phytoplenolin
Ingredients: Phytoplenoline (Centipeda Cunninghamii Extract), Bio-Chelated Extracts of Echinacea Purpurea Tops (Echinacea Purpurea), Calendula Flower (Calendula officinalis), Olive Leaf (Olea Europaea), Black Walnut Green Hulls (Juglans Nigra), Gotu Kola Herb (Centella Asiatica), Chamomile Flower (Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria)), Green Tea Leaf (Camellia Sinensis), Prickly Ash Bark (Zanthoxylum Americanum) and Grapefruit Seed (Citrus Grandis), Essential Oils of Peppermint (Mentha Piperita), Oregano (Origanum Vulgare), Clove (Eugenia Caryophyllus), Thyme (Thymus Vulgaris), Lavender (Lavandula Angustifolia), Cinnamon (Cinnamomum Zeylanicum) and Eucalyptus Eucalyptus Globulus) Bio-Saponin (Saponins), Folic Acid, Coenzyme Q10 (Ubiquinone), Aloe Vera Phytogel (Aloe Barbadensis), Sodium Bicarbonate, Colloidal Silica, Lysine, Xylitol, Xanthan Gum and Chlorophyll.
Base Ingredients: Calcium Carbonate, Vegetable Glycerin, U.S.P Purified Water. |
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Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:41 pm |
Byrg,
Jason toothpastes do NOT have SLS in them. |
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Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:48 pm |
Hi There,
I am a big fan of Tom's of Maine Natural toothpaste. This may only be available in the Northeast. Although I think they have a website. It is very smooth and has some great flavors |
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Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:57 pm |
Erin,
Tom's of Maine toothpastes, on the other hand, do have SLS. I don't like them for that reason.
I used to get corner mouth sores from using toothpastes with SLS. |
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Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:09 pm |
Thanks pumaka. I didn't know that. Good to know. It does have Sodium Cocoyl Glutamate, but I guess that's much gentler.
For those wondering why we don't like SLS in toothpaste this is something I read on it:
"SODIUM LAURYL SULFATE
Sodium lauryl sulfate (SLS) is powerful surfactant (wetting agent)
and detergent. Its has industrial uses as car wash soaps, garage
floor cleaners, and engine degreasers, and is used around the globe
in clinically studies as a skin irritant. Sodium Lauryl Sulfate has
harmful effects on the eyes, skin, mucosa tissue of the mouth, and
the molecule is small enough to penetrate the skin and can enter the
blood stream being carried to every organ of the body and may
persist in the cells of the brain, heart, spleen and liver. SLS is
used in toothpaste as a foaming and cleansing agent. The following
are 3 reasons you should seriously consider using toothpaste
without SLS in it:
1. SLS CAUSES MOUTH IRRITATION AND SKIN LOSS
Sodium Lauryl Sulfate can cause the sloughing off or loss of skin in
the mouth. (1) This means that the use of SLS toothpastes in
susceptible people may result in loss of the top layer of the mucous
membrane inside the mouth with resultant soreness or even
ulceration. It may also produce cracking of the dermal and epidermal
layer of the skin. (2)
2. SLS IS LINKED TO CANKER SORES
Pal Barkvoll, an oral surgeon in Oslo, Norway states that SLS dries
the mucus lining that protects against irritants such as acidic
foods which is a major cause of canker sores. His study showed that
the incidence of canker sores dropped by 70% of those subjects that
used toothpaste without SLS as opposed to those who used toothpaste
with SLS. (3)
3. SLS IS HARMFUL TO EYES IN A VARIETY OF WAYS
Sodium lauryl sulfate can cause redness, itching, and the outbreak
of lesions that may discharge serious matter and become encrusted
and scaly in the eyes and skin. In studies carried out by Dr.
Stephen Green, SLS was found to penetrate eye tissue and cause
retinal damage for up to 5 days. (4)
Further studies suggest that SLS prevents children's eyes from
developing properly, possibly by denaturing (weakening) the protein
in the eye and inhibiting correct structural formation. It would
appear that this damage is permanent and also suggests that there is
retardation of healing in eyes when exposed to SLS. In 1983 it was
reported that animals exposed to SLS experienced eye damage,
depression, labored breathing, diarrhea, severe skin irritation and
even death. (5)" |
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Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:23 pm |
| Thanks BYRG! I didn't know this. I learn something new everytime I'm on the forum! |
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Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:35 pm |
Here's more on the SLS.
"SLS is a foaming detergent and a common ingredient in toothpaste, shampoos and many personal care products. There is concerns about its capacity to react with other ingredients to form a potent nitrosamine carcinoen called "NDELA." According to an FDA report, shampooing hair with a product containing SLS creates an absorption rate that is much higher than that of eating food what contains nitrate(s). One researcher estimates that the nitrate-absorption resulting from one shampooing is equal to the consumption of a pound of nitrate-cured meat!
SLS is also an acknowledged skin aggravate. In fact, SLS is used both a a laboratory standard for skin irritation and as an inducing-agent for contact dermatitis because it penetrates the skin's naturla barrier easily. In addition, SLS can cause an allergic response to other toxins and allergens, thereby damaging and altering skin cells additionally.
Most toothpaste contains SLS. The oral mucosa of the mouth is one of the most susceptible areas of the body because whatever it touches it bypasses the digestive system, going directly into the bloodstream. Read the label and avoid sodium-laurel, sodium-laureth and all synthetic derivatives."
I still think the Perio stuff is pretty good. Here is more info on the doctor who created it.
http://docharrison.com/ingredients.html
One of the questions on his faq is:
"Q. What are other names for sodium-lauryl-sulfate?
A. Sodium Laureth, Sodium Cochl Glutimate."
For some reason he charges a lot more and the names are slightly different. But it's obvious they are the same product by the ingredients and the patented ingredient, so I'd go for the better priced ones.
I've also used just peppermint, spearmint and almond essential oil. I liked that too cause it felt so fresh and clean. |
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Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:43 pm |
I use Burts Bees Cinnamint toothpaste. I really like it.
Ingredients:
Purified water, vegetable glycerin, calcium carbonate (chalk), bentonite (clay), peppermint oil, spearmint oil, cassia oil, baking soda, yucca scidigera extract, chlorophyll, parsely oil, xanthan gum.
The tube says 100% natural, and flouride free. Also, no artificial colors, flavors, binders, or sodium lauryl sulfate.
The texture is different from mainstream toothpaste and it does not foam, but it does do a very good job of cleaning, in my opinion. |
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Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:51 am |
| Sorry about that. I wasn't thinking outside the tube I guess ;<) |
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Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:01 am |
| BYRG wrote: |
"SLS is a foaming detergent and a common ingredient in toothpaste, shampoos and many personal care products. There is concerns about its capacity to react with other ingredients to form a potent nitrosamine carcinoen called "NDELA." According to an FDA report, shampooing hair with a product containing SLS creates an absorption rate that is much higher than that of eating food what contains nitrate(s). One researcher estimates that the nitrate-absorption resulting from one shampooing is equal to the consumption of a pound of nitrate-cured meat!
SLS is also an acknowledged skin aggravate. In fact, SLS is used both a a laboratory standard for skin irritation and as an inducing-agent for contact dermatitis because it penetrates the skin's naturla barrier easily. In addition, SLS can cause an allergic response to other toxins and allergens, thereby damaging and altering skin cells additionally.
Most toothpaste contains SLS. The oral mucosa of the mouth is one of the most susceptible areas of the body because whatever it touches it bypasses the digestive system, going directly into the bloodstream. Read the label and avoid sodium-laurel, sodium-laureth and all synthetic derivatives."
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BYRG I want to take a look at this. Where did you find this information? Thanks. |
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Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:13 am |
| So far, I tried Weleda and Tom's of Maine Natural toothpaste, and I like Weleda better in the term of cleaning, but it's still not a perfect one. |
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Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:36 am |
i have to use sensodyne because of my sensitive teeth, but would like to switch to a toothpaste without all the nasties...does anyone know of a natural toothpaste that is appropriate for sensitive teeth?
my mom used to always get sores/cracks at the corners of her mouth when she was using conventional toothpastes...now she uses tom's of maine & likes it a lot. |
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Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:38 am |
Lamicuz,
Berry Mint get I mentioned (by Jason Naturals) is actually for sensitive teeth. I like it for the taste, and it helps my husband with his sensitive teeth. |
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PrairieGirl
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Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:03 pm |
SLS is very controversial, but check out why Tom's uses it (you can't always believe everything you read...especially online):
(ok, so i can't post the website, for whatever reason. but you can go on their website & look under product info)
EcoDent makes a great toothpowder that not only cleans your teeth naturally, but the minerals actually (they claim) help to remineralize your teeth. It takes a little getting used to, but the bottle lasts forever & it's gentler on your teeth than the calcium, which is very abrasive, in most toothpastes.
I love the Burt's Bees toothpaste, too. It makes my gums very happy. |
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Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:26 pm |
thanks pumaka & jumpingball!
i'll check them out next time i'm at the health food store. |
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Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:48 pm |
I have three favourite natural toothpastes.
1)Tom's of Maine Kids toothpaste in Silly Strawberry. It tastes exactly like strawberry butter from the Popover Cafe in NYC.
2)Weleda Pink Toothpaste. Doesn't really foam up and is an odd pinky/gray shade, but, I love the exotic taste it leaves in the mouth.
3)Jason Sea Fresh - even if it doesn't have mystical powers harnassed from the oceans, the box makes me believe that it does. |
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Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:06 pm |
| PrairieGirl wrote: |
SLS is very controversial, but check out why Tom's uses it (you can't always believe everything you read...especially online):
(ok, so i can't post the website, for whatever reason. but you can go on their website & look under product info)
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Welcome to the forum PrarieGirl. I took a look at the Tom's website and was very impressed with their ingredient information and honesty about what is in their products.
Since it is such good reading I will provide the link. Be sure to read about Propylene Glycol while you are there.
http://www.tomsofmaine.com/toms/ifs/sls.asp |
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Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:19 pm |
| PrairieGirl wrote: |
| SLS is very controversial, but check out why Tom's uses it (you can't always believe everything you read...especially online): |
No, but you can always believe what a company says about the ingredients in their own products they are selling on their online website, eh? Of course every company is going to justify what they use in their own products as safe, or that it has FDA approval etc. That doesn't mean there is nothing wrong with it. No one will ever agree on these things. |
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:48 pm |
| BYRG wrote: |
I've also used just peppermint, spearmint and almond essential oil. I liked that too cause it felt so fresh and clean. |
Does that really work in terms of prevention against tooth plaque? |
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:50 pm |
| Have you tried Breath Palette? It's a bit expensive, but it's natural and cruelty-free, and comes in AMAZING flavors like fuji apple, green tea, caramel, rose, espresso, etc. |
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:03 pm |
| Weleda is the purest commercial toothpaste I've found. Other than that I think you have to make it yourself with baking soda, salt, peppermint oil, etc. |
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:55 pm |
| I have tried Jason and some other "natural" toothpastes but developed a sensitivity to them. I started getting extremely dry and chapped lips and also got a mild rash and severe dryness around my mouth, especially in the corners. I'm not sure what caused it, possibly the high concentration of baking soda, I'm not sure, but it put me off of natural toothpastes for a while which was also disappointing as it is one of the few non-organic products I use. I am now going to try Weleda's toothpaste as I heard good things about it and heard it was also quite gentle and non irritating. Hopefully it works. If that fails I may try Dr H's Wala toothpastes, but I'd like to hear more reviews about them first. |
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