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Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:09 pm      Reply with quote
I'd like to try filler in the tear troughs but a few doctors told me it's not a good idea since it's so close to the eyes, the filler could migrate to the eyes.

Has anyone done this with success? How did you convince the doctor to do it for you?
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Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:31 pm      Reply with quote
I've had fat injection in the Tear Troughs before and it worked out well

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Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:52 pm      Reply with quote
If you are worried see an oculoplastic surgeon because he is a specialist in eyelids. Stop aspirin and vitamin E the week before to prevent bruising and take more vitamin C for the same reason. Then have botox to your crow's feet so that the filler under your eyes lasts longer because you won't be squeezing it with facial expressions.
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I've had Resytlane injected in my tear troughs with success, but I did a lot of research beforehand.

I had to find not only someone willing to do it, but also someone who I trusted. I asked a lot of people for recommendations on local derms and cosm. surgeons before choosing one.

If I were you, I would do some homework. Good luck, BFG
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I've had Resytlane injected in my tear troughs with success, but I did a lot of research beforehand.

I had to find not only someone willing to do it, but also someone who I trusted. I asked a lot of people for recommendations on local derms and cosm. surgeons before choosing one.

If I were you, I would do some homework. Good luck, BFG
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I had Juvederm injected by someone with a really good reputations and I loved it. Only problem was a big bruise on one eye which is common. I have not gone back yet because I don't want to explain my big bruise to everyone again Smile I have heard to stop anything that thins the blood and to take arnica beforehand. I will try it next time as I am sure I will have to do this again. One advantage was that it has lasted well over a year.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:12 pm      Reply with quote
lorimcp wrote:
I had Juvederm injected by someone with a really good reputations and I loved it. Only problem was a big bruise on one eye which is common. I have not gone back yet because I don't want to explain my big bruise to everyone again Smile I have heard to stop anything that thins the blood and to take arnica beforehand. I will try it next time as I am sure I will have to do this again. One advantage was that it has lasted well over a year.


Many surgeons (plastic and others) have been recommending Arnica Montana to help minimize bruising for a while now, there are other very good suggestions on this site, just a bit of information:

http://www.epollardmd.com/surgery-prep.php#supplements:


Two weeks before surgery: Start taking 500 mg. of Vitamin C once or twice a day. Vitamin C promotes healing and is a free-radical scavenger. Look for Vitamin C that is time-release and pure (that is, not mixed with any bioflavonoid or anything else).

One day before surgery: Start taking Arnica Montana (30c dosage) the night before your surgery. (Arnica Montana is available in health food stores. You want to purchase 30c tablets. Obtaining the correct dosage is important as it reflects the dilution. A 30x dosage is ten times more concentrated.) Take two tablets, three times a day, for the first three days after surgery. Place the tablets under your tongue about 15 minutes to 30 minutes before eating.

Take 500mg (or 100 GDU) of Bromelain two times on the day before surgery, and continue for five more days after surgery. This pineapple enzyme, which decreases bruising, is available in health food stores.

Please Note: The above is a program recommended by Dr Pollard. Whether you follow all, part, or none of this program is entirely your choice, based on what you deem best for your own health. If you do not intend to follow this plan, however, it is important that you notify Dr. Pollard of your decision.

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Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:25 am      Reply with quote
There are risks, like with anything, with this but the filler wont migrate into your eye's. I'd be concerned about seeing a dr who told me that.

I think this a popular procedure and you shouldn't have to convince your dr to do it. He/She should be well experienced.
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Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:20 pm      Reply with quote
Hi all,

Thanks everybody for your great advice. I will have to find a doctor who is experienced with the injections in the tear troughs it seems. How did you all find your doctor? Word of mouth? Google? I really really need it as I get older, the tear troughs seem to become more evident. I may just need more sleep, too, but am not sure.

*MIRACLESKIN* How long did the fat injection last?

*DARKMOON* Do you know why the stronger arnica 30x is not better than the weaker 30c? I always wonder about that, so just wondering if you know the reason why 30c is recommended compared to 30x.
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Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:03 pm      Reply with quote
I've recently become interested in this as well. Not sure if it's necessary yet, but I was wondering if anyone out there has been unhappy with this particular injected area?

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Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:32 pm      Reply with quote
Natalyn wrote:
Hi all,

Thanks everybody for your great advice. I will have to find a doctor who is experienced with the injections in the tear troughs it seems. How did you all find your doctor? Word of mouth? Google? I really really need it as I get older, the tear troughs seem to become more evident. I may just need more sleep, too, but am not sure.

*MIRACLESKIN* How long did the fat injection last?

*DARKMOON* Do you know why the stronger arnica 30x is not better than the weaker 30c? I always wonder about that, so just wondering if you know the reason why 30c is recommended compared to 30x.


With homeopathy as I have always understood it the more diluted actually the stronger, to put it simply. This may explain it better than I do?

http://www.livestrong.com/article/133696-what-is-difference-arnica-montana-30x-30c/


Arnica montana, named for the mountain daisy from which it is derived, is the homeopathic remedy of choice for bruising and trauma. Homeopathic arnica may also be helpful for injury, swelling, shock and severe insect stings. Taking arnica before and after a surgery or dental procedure may minimize post-surgical pain and edema.
PREPARATION OF HOMEOPATHIC REMEDIES
Homeopathic remedies are prepared through a series of dilution and succussion, or vigorous shaking. The preparation method is an essential part of the homeopathic process and is believed to be partially responsible for the success of homeopathy. A common theory is that highly-diluted remedies which contain little or none of the actual substance do carry the "energy signature" of the substance, and it is this energy which promotes healing, explains Andrew Hobson, a registered and licensed homeopath.

DILUTION
Counter-intuitively, homeopathic remedies become stronger the more they are diluted. The weakest remedies are the decimal or X potencies, which are diluted at a 1-in-10 ratio: one drop of arnica tincture in 9 drops of alcohol, for example. Centesimal potencies, diluted at a 1-in-100 ratio, are usually adequate for first aid treatment of minor and acute conditions, notes Hobson.
POTENCY
Arnica montana 30X is a decimal potency, while arnica montana 30C is a centesimal. The "30" represents the number of serial dilutions performed on the original substance. As the British Homeopathic Association explains, in a serial dilution the results of one dilution are used for the next dilution. One drop of arnica tincture diluted in 99 drops of alcohol results in the 1C potency, and one drop of the 1C potency in 99 drops of alcohol becomes the 2C potency. Another way to think of it might be that a 30X potency is 1 in 10 to the 30th power, while a 30C is 1 in 100 to the 30th power. The more zeroes, the stronger the remedy.

Here is another link which explains the basics of Homeopathy:

http://www.lausci.com/Lau3.htm

HTH Very Happy

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Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:45 pm      Reply with quote
Ok, I think I see what you mean. I had thought 30x was stronger than 30c, but it's actually the other way around. A little confusing, but just have to memorize it. Very Happy Thanks DM.
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Natalyn wrote:
Ok, I think I see what you mean. I had thought 30x was stronger than 30c, but it's actually the other way around. A little confusing, but just have to memorize it. Very Happy Thanks DM.


I know it is a strange concept, but I have just always remembered that it is weaker is stronger. Very Happy

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Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:57 am      Reply with quote
I had fillers in my tear trough and I loved it!

Was your doctor a cosmetic derm or a plastic surgeon? I'm just asking because it is a very commonly performed procedure. It's not that it can migrate "in" the eye but if you don't start injecting from the bone as support then you run the risk of the filler getting "lost" in the periorbital area so it will be money wasted Sad

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Hi Natalyn, I just now saw your question reqarding how long the fat injection lasts. The first time I had it was about 7 years ago and it lasted for 5 plus years. I have recently lost weight and need it again

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Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:10 am      Reply with quote
I took arnica tincture for a week before and I still had horrible bruising. I think the problem was the vitamin E I had been taking. One reason you get bruising is because, to prevent lumping and to get a good result, the doc has to really massage it into the area. That is what my oculoplastic surgeon told me.

I'm curious as to what everyone who has had this done paid. I needed two vials and it cost $2000. I had some left over after the first time and came back a month later and he used the rest. It's good for six months if you don't use it all up.
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I had fillers in my tear trough and I loved it!

Was your doctor a cosmetic derm or a plastic surgeon? I'm just asking because it is a very commonly performed procedure. It's not that it can migrate "in" the eye but if you don't start injecting from the bone as support then you run the risk of the filler getting "lost" in the periorbital area so it will be money wasted Sad


He's a board certified plastic surgeon. He said if the filler migratead to the eyes, it could cause blindness. I hope I understood him correctly, but whatever it was, he did not want to do it. I wouldn't push him to do it if he felt uncomfortable doing it as I don't want to risk losing my eyesight either.
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Hi Natalyn, I just now saw your question reqarding how long the fat injection lasts. The first time I had it was about 7 years ago and it lasted for 5 plus years. I have recently lost weight and need it again


Wow, that is great! Could you plese tell me more? How much does it cost? Where did you get the fat from? How did you find the doctor that would perform this procedure? TIA!
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I took arnica tincture for a week before and I still had horrible bruising. I think the problem was the vitamin E I had been taking. One reason you get bruising is because, to prevent lumping and to get a good result, the doc has to really massage it into the area. That is what my oculoplastic surgeon told me.

I'm curious as to what everyone who has had this done paid. I needed two vials and it cost $2000. I had some left over after the first time and came back a month later and he used the rest. It's good for six months if you don't use it all up.


I did not get fillers in my tear troughs. My first experience with fillers was in Aug 2009 when I went to this plastic surgeon's office because of a promotion buy 1 syringe get the 2nd one half off, so I paid about $900 total for the 2 syringes, and he used only 1 syringe for my nasolabial folds. The other syringe was stored at the doctor's office. I asked when I had to come back for it, and the nurse said it would be good for a couple of years, so I went back in June of 2011. The fillers seemed to have lasted a long time for me, which was why I did not go back till June 2011. This was Juvederm. I did not really want to go back for a refill as I did not see I needed it, but it was going to expire, so I just went back so it would not go to waste.
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After much research, it appears Restylane is the filler that most doctors recommended for the eye area!

http://www.realself.com/question/restylane-tear-trough-eye-bags
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Barefootgirl wrote:
I've had Resytlane injected in my tear troughs with success, but I did a lot of research beforehand.

I had to find not only someone willing to do it, but also someone who I trusted. I asked a lot of people for recommendations on local derms and cosm. surgeons before choosing one.

If I were you, I would do some homework. Good luck, BFG


Hi BFG,

I saw your other post about the browlift and eyelid surgery. After these 2 procedures, do you think you'll still need filler in the tear troughs? Do the procedures address under the eye area as well?
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Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:08 pm      Reply with quote
Article you should read about filler around the eye area from the NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/20/fashion/20skin.html
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I opted to get filler in the tear troughs because I do not have as much confidence in the success of lower blephs as I do upper blephs.

I first had the filler injected there 4 years ago and it has remained - more or less - the same without the need for more since then.

I am very happy with the results, but there again, I was very careful as to who I let treat me there...I performed the same diligent process to find the right person.

I don't think my recent surgery will impact the under eye area, but I guess time will tell.

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I've booked myself in on Sept 7 to have this done. My dark circles have annoyed me for so long ... I feel like they age me and drag my face down. I've been considering this for a while, but kept putting it off. No more waiting!

Question though. Right now I'm on the Obagi program and will be at 15 weeks when I go in (doing it on my own this time ... fist time was with a med spa). Should I stop the really harsh stuff before I have my injections? I don't put anything under my eyes ... just the Obagi eye cream. But wasn't sure about the tretinoin or the hydroquinone since I used it right up to the bone around your eye.

Also, for those of you who've had it done ... how long did the bruising generally take to go down? They've told me what to avoid so I'll follow those guidelines, but curious what to expect on average.

Thanks!

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I did but i wasn't satisfied, because it lasted only for 2 months and to be honest, it didn't make much difference either. So, it was a waste of money for me...
However, i think the woman who injected it was very unexperienced, because her hands were shaking all the time and she pretty much messed it up.
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