Jowls -- what facial exercise program targets this?
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Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:11 am

I am somewhat new to facial exercises. I did CM's Facercise for a while, noticed improvements with the nose shortner exercise, but nothing to the jowl area...then I moved and misplaced the exercise book...I'm only 38, so my jowls are not too pronounced yet, but enough to bother me. My biggest concern is avoiding facial gauntness. I have read through these forums that Facercise is more for toning and not building up the face? Has anyone here had success/improvement to jawline from facial exercises? Thanks!

free skin care · Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:54 am

I'm doing the Ageless facial exercise program right now, but some people feel it is more of an upper cheek builder and doesn't work the lower face as well. For me, this is fine since getting apple cheeks is one of my goals.

I think you will get a lot of people replying here that will tell you that Flex Effect will work well for firming and toning the lower face. I'm not familiar with the program, only with what people have said about it.

free skin care · Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:55 am

A lot of programs do, but I think to some extent it depends how much skin we're talking here as to what they can do. I hate jowls and always had a problem with them, and know Eva Fraser has a good exercise as does Flex Effect, but there's a freebie one by Lea Eigard that I do that hits that area. Its called chin up but does the whole jawline: http://www.theeigardmethod.com/exercises_beg_chinup.htm

I think the thing with jowls is that the can be caused by so many things, so there is always the old advice to work all the muscles in the face. I didn't get on with Facercise at all, too much woo woo for me, visualise face slimming and widening, well if these exercises worked where the proof. Likewise with Nose Shortener, never seen any proof!

free skin care · Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:59 am

Yes, I've seen so much hoopla about Carole's nose shortener; people really rave about that one. But I have yet to find a before and after picture of how this exercise has changed the shape or shortened their nose. It would be nice to see some proof. Smile

free skin care · Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:03 am

TheresaMary wrote:

A lot of programs do, but I think to some extent it depends how much skin we're talking here as to what they can do. I hate jowls and always had a problem with them, and know Eva Fraser has a good exercise as does Flex Effect, but there's a freebie one by Lea Eigard that I do that hits that area. Its called chin up but does the whole jawline: http://www.theeigardmethod.com/exercises_beg_chinup.htm

I don't know why, but that woman's eyes scare me, especially in that third picture. Maybe she has too much eye makeup on or they're sunken in, but it's sort of freaky. She does have the most beautiful cheeks, though. That's what I'm aiming for with Ageless.

free skin care · Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:05 am

You know its not that I disbelieve it, but when I've done it in the past I've found myself thinking is this doing anything and I even wrote to Carole to ask if she had proof and she said something about receiving feedback from hundreds of people as well as seeing her own nose change, but I still think if it can live up to its name then there should be now be some proof to show that this is so. I've also heard people say that they know it works because their noses haven't changed, but come on be serious, there are people who don't do face exercises that say that.

sandooch wrote:

Yes, I've seen so much hoopla about Carole's nose shortener; people really rave about that one. But I have yet to find a before and after picture of how this exercise has changed the shape or shortened their nose. It would be nice to see some proof. Smile

free skin care · Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:11 am

LOL...yes, that's so true. After all, our noses and ears are the two things that keep getting bigger with every decade (okay, my gut, too, but everyone's nose and ears continue to grow throughout their lives).

free skin care · Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:15 pm

sandooch wrote:

I don't know why, but that woman's eyes scare me, especially in that third picture. Maybe she has too much eye makeup on or they're sunken in, but it's sort of freaky. She does have the most beautiful cheeks, though. That's what I'm aiming for with Ageless.

her cheeks are amazing and so natural looking! how old is she?

free skin care · Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:17 am

Jowls are one of my main concerns also. I own Carol Maggio, LouLou and a bunch of others Embarassed

I bought this book just before Christmas and started doing the exercises at least 5 days a week for a couple of months. I noticed a big difference in the drooping of the corners of my mouth.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0974243477/ref=oh_o03_s00_i00_details

After doing the program for 3 months I really started to actually "feel" the muscles you were trying to work. Initially the movements are awkward and you really are not sure if you are doing them correctly but eventually you do start to feel that you are doing it right. The best advice I can give for the this program is to really read the instructions. I would re-read every month and sure enough I would notice a very small thing I wasn't doing quite right.

I now try to do the program 3-4 times a week and I have maintained the gains I have made.

Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:00 pm

Alley wrote:

I bought this book just before Christmas and started doing the exercises at least 5 days a week for a couple of months. I noticed a big difference in the drooping of the corners of my mouth

Alley, when you say drooping at the corners of your mouth, does this also include further down from the mouth, i.e marionette lines? My main concern is the slight ML pouches at the sides of my mouth and jowls. I would to find something that addresses this. Thanks

free skin care · Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:15 pm

Miel24 wrote:

Alley wrote:

I bought this book just before Christmas and started doing the exercises at least 5 days a week for a couple of months. I noticed a big difference in the drooping of the corners of my mouth

Alley, when you say drooping at the corners of your mouth, does this also include further down from the mouth, i.e marionette lines? My main concern is the slight ML pouches at the sides of my mouth and jowls. I would to find something that addresses this. Thanks

Yes exactly, those little pouches just hanging off the side of my mouth were greatly reduced by doing that program. I noticed a big difference and I did not take my before and after pictures which I really should have.

free skin care · Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:02 pm

I developed jowls at an early age. In my very early 40's. I am now 57, and my jowls have not worsened in the past sixteen years. There is a droop, but the skin is tight.....

What I do is lean my head back as far as it will comfortably go. Then I let my mouth fall open. Next I thrust my jaw forward and lift it toward the ceiling.

My mouth does not completely close during this exercise because my bottom jaw is thrust forward.

I repeat this ten times, relax my jaw and repeat the ten times for a total of fifty jaw lifts.

I can really feel the neck muscles working; my neck tightens and the jowl area tightens too.

Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:56 am

Kegeux, I like you have developed jowls early - for me they appeared quite suddenly at the age of 39 and it bothers me as I looked ten years older in a very short space of time.

I will definitely try the exercise you mentioned, thanks!

Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:16 am

[quote="Alley"][quote="Miel24"]

Alley wrote:

I bought this book just before Christmas and started doing the exercises at least 5 days a week for a couple of months. I noticed a big difference in the drooping of the corners of my

Thnks for your recommendation Alley, I have purchased the book; I also hold the author in high regard from my days as a raw foodist a few years back.

So, my programme is Ageless for cheeks, rawsome flex and Kgeaux's exercise for jaw and jowls, plus safetox for my very prominant 11's. I would love to see real improvements in the months to come.

Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:46 pm

Hi, I've been reading several threads on facial exercises here, and it seems like most of the people who do them use several different systems. I'm looking for a good place to start. Is anybody happy with just one of these? If it helps, my most immediate concerns are jowls, loss of cheek fullness and eyelid droop. Also, I assume the Tanaka-type massage (which I have tried and like so far) would be done in addition to, rather than as a replacement for, facial exercises?

Thanks!!

free skin care · Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:28 am

[quote="Miel24"][quote="Alley"]

Miel24 wrote:

Alley wrote:

I bought this book just before Christmas and started doing the exercises at least 5 days a week for a couple of months. I noticed a big difference in the drooping of the corners of my

Thnks for your recommendation Alley, I have purchased the book; I also hold the author in high regard from my days as a raw foodist a few years back.

So, my programme is Ageless for cheeks, rawsome flex and Kgeaux's exercise for jaw and jowls, plus safetox for my very prominant 11's. I would love to see real improvements in the months to come.

As obsessed as I am with wrinkles I have never, until this morning, actually looked into what Satetox was. Good Lord I just ordered it!!!!! I had an appt this afternoon for botox and I canceled the appointment and ordered Safetox instead. Frankly the botox wasn't all that great for me and if this works 1/2 as well it will pay for itself in 6 months.

free skin care · Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:43 am

birgit wrote:

Hi, I've been reading several threads on facial exercises here, and it seems like most of the people who do them use several different systems. I'm looking for a good place to start. Is anybody happy with just one of these? If it helps, my most immediate concerns are jowls, loss of cheek fullness and eyelid droop. Also, I assume the Tanaka-type massage (which I have tried and like so far) would be done in addition to, rather than as a replacement for, facial exercises?

Thanks!!

Hey Birgit,

There are a few people who use one system (or almost entirely one system). Depending on who's around at the time and on EDS, you'll get different responses. I'd say the most popular programs where people use just one system and don't mix and match are FlexEffect, Carolyn's Facial Fitness, and Facercise (maybe in that order?). Ageless If You Dare is another popular program, but the business practices have not been good and many people report that Ageless didn't do much for their lower face and hence use multiple programs. And for other programs such as Senta Maria Runge's Facelifting Through Exercise or Rawesome Flex by Tonya Zavasta, people who are on EDS tend not to use those programs exclusively, though I'm not exactly sure why.

My favorite is FlexEffect, and in my opinion it is the most comprehensive by far. So I would highly recommend it, both in general and for your given areas of concerns. In particular, I think FlexEffect's cheek exercises and jawline exercises are the most powerful.

But as to soliciting opinions and figuring out which program might be best for you, investigating those three programs mentioned above and picking your favorite of the lot would probably be your best bet. I hope this helps in giving you some direction Smile

Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:13 pm

cm5597, thanks so much! I will take a look at those three especially. It's great to have someone's opinion on which ones are good for cheeks, etc. It's hard for me to get past the less than professional look of most of these sites. But the Flex Effect before and after pics are pretty impressive! Knowing that you and others here use these systems and actually see results is really helpful.

free skin care · Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:11 am

Lower face is a major problem for me, and the only program that really works my lower face well is well FlexEffect. Ageless was great for the cheeks but there wasn't many exercises for lower face because Lou believed when the cheeks lift up they will pull everything up with them and I tried Ageless in its entirety for a while but it didn't work for me in that way. Also have done CFF which was ok but didn't really create any lasting effects for me, but one program that did work my lower face well was Facial Magic, but its a bit annoying to use the CD because its got a lot of waffling but once you can do the exercises it does work well and you can do them anywhere!

Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:09 am

I recently added Kgeaux's exercise to my routine and, wow!, it works the jaw/upper neck unlike anything else I've tried. I am really impressed with the degree of difficulty (I can only do 5 reps!) and soreness I get afterwards. Temporary tissue swelling in that area gives my softening jawline an added hint of fullness. I am loving it so far.

For those who advocate Flex Effect for tightening the jawline, is pinching and pulling the skin part of the exercises? I had to quit LouLou's program because of the rough handling, my skin just couldn't hack it.

free skin care · Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:30 am

You know Kgeaux exercise is just like one of the ones in Facial Magic and it definitely works the jawline. I like some of the Facial Magic stuff because whilst its not focused on building muscle, it does have that toning and tightening effect.

To me FlexEffect isn't like Ageless at all. I know Lou was once a trainer there, but there's no pinching of the skin but there's some pressing and pushing (but its not pulling). However I do think FlexEffect is more rough than Ageless because it does involve a lot of tissue manipulation but having said that I think thats why it works well for my face!

Nanella wrote:

I recently added Kgeaux's exercise to my routine and, wow!, it works the jaw/upper neck unlike anything else I've tried. I am really impressed with the degree of difficulty (I can only do 5 reps!) and soreness I get afterwards. Temporary tissue swelling in that area gives my softening jawline an added hint of fullness. I am loving it so far.

For those who advocate Flex Effect for tightening the jawline, is pinching and pulling the skin part of the exercises? I had to quit LouLou's program because of the rough handling, my skin just couldn't hack it.

Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:14 am

Sorry,
where can I find informations about Kgeaux's exercise?

free skin care · Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:29 am

Kgeaux posted it above, just read their message near the top part of this thread!

esofia wrote:

Sorry,
where can I find informations about Kgeaux's exercise?

free skin care · Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:30 am

Reposted for esofia:

Kgeaux wrote:

I developed jowls at an early age. In my very early 40's. I am now 57, and my jowls have not worsened in the past sixteen years. There is a droop, but the skin is tight.....

What I do is lean my head back as far as it will comfortably go. Then I let my mouth fall open. Next I thrust my jaw forward and lift it toward the ceiling.

My mouth does not completely close during this exercise because my bottom jaw is thrust forward.

I repeat this ten times, relax my jaw and repeat the ten times for a total of fifty jaw lifts.

I can really feel the neck muscles working; my neck tightens and the jowl area tightens too.

Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:34 am

Thanks,
I missed Kgeaux post.

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