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I need a 100% natural surfactant for making a skin cleanser?
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Tue May 08, 2012 7:31 pm      Reply with quote
What is the best natural ingredient?

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Wed May 09, 2012 5:41 am      Reply with quote
Have you considered liquid Castille Soap?

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Wed May 09, 2012 8:04 am      Reply with quote
What is your definition of natural - the surfactant exists in nature or that it is derived from natural ingredients? Saponins are found in soap nuts, soapwort and soap bark tree.

If you are looking for 'derived from' you have a lot more choice, as Keliu says traditional alkaline soap is made from oils, as can sulphates and many other synthetic surfactants be. But these detergents have nothing in common with their parent oil, they are often highly alkaline and not emollient at all.

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Wed May 09, 2012 8:56 am      Reply with quote
I'll be using castile soap which has Water, Saponified Organic Coconut, Sunflower and Castor oils, Citric Acid, and Rosemary extract.

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Wed May 09, 2012 9:20 am      Reply with quote
morocha wrote:
I'll be using castile soap which has Water, Saponified Organic Coconut, Sunflower and Castor oils, Citric Acid, and Rosemary extract.

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Here is what Keliu posted on another thread, she does add ACV to balance the pH and Aloe to add humectants.

Keliu wrote:
The cleansing bars that are sold now are not allowed to be called "soap" because they are not made from oils - this is where it becomes confusing. It is the "cleansing bars" that have given soap a bad name (incorrectly so). My point being that pure soap will not strip the skin like the cleansing bars.

I make my own shampoo using a combination of Dr. Bonner's Castile Soap, Apple Cider Vinegar and Aloe Vera Gel because regular shampoos make my scalp itch. Dr. Bonner's Castile Soap is made from Olive Oil.

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Wed May 09, 2012 11:15 am      Reply with quote
Thank You! I'll add those ingredients as well!
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Wed May 09, 2012 11:27 am      Reply with quote
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Thank You! I'll add those ingredients as well!


You are welcome, I have made Keliu's shampoo and it is lovely! I know she posted she also uses it on her skin including her face! Very Happy

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Wed May 09, 2012 11:40 am      Reply with quote
I'm going to order castille soap, aloe vera gel and other ingredients from Mountain Rose Herbs, I heard their products are high quality Smile

I also found this site which has good info on how to make your own lotion as well:

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Lotion

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Wed May 09, 2012 11:45 am      Reply with quote
morocha wrote:
I'm going to order castille soap, aloe vera gel and other ingredients from Mountain Rose Herbs, I heard their products are high quality Smile

I also found this site which has good info on how to make your own lotion as well:

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Lotion

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The two go to places I use for things like these are Mountain Rose Herbs and Majestic Mountain Sage!

You are right on track! Very Happy

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Fri May 18, 2012 10:12 am      Reply with quote
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You are welcome, I have made Keliu's shampoo and it is lovely! I know she posted she also uses it on her skin including her face! Very Happy


DM, is there a recipe for this shampoo? I bought Dr. Bronner's castille soap and would like to get it to a neutral pH. Would it work as shower gel/hand soap as well, or is it better suited as shampoo?

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DarkMoon wrote:

You are welcome, I have made Keliu's shampoo and it is lovely! I know she posted she also uses it on her skin including her face! Very Happy


DM, is there a recipe for this shampoo? I bought Dr. Bronner's castille soap and would like to get it to a neutral pH. Would it work as shower gel/hand soap as well, or is it better suited as shampoo?

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I know Keliu posted it someplace, I will try and find it, I saved it on my other Laptop which is in for a warranty repair (charger not charging!).

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Fri May 18, 2012 4:40 pm      Reply with quote
Here it is - DM, I may have tweaked it a bit since I first posted it.

1/4 cup Water
1 cup Castille Soap (I use the one with Peppermint Oil because it's good for hair)
2 tbspns Apple Cider Vinegar
2 tbspns Aloe Vera
1/4 tsp of Olive Oil

Whilst I'm shampooing with this in the shower, I've also been known to wash my face with it as well.

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Keliu wrote:
Here it is - DM, I may have tweaked it a bit since I first posted it.

1/4 cup Water
1 cup Castille Soap (I use the one with Peppermint Oil because it's good for hair)
2 tbspns Apple Cider Vinegar
2 tbspns Aloe Vera
1/4 tsp of Olive Oil

Whilst I'm shampooing with this in the shower, I've also been known to wash my face with it as well.


Thank you Keliu,

I thought you might have, and I don't know if you posted but it never made it to the recipe index.

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Sat May 19, 2012 11:25 am      Reply with quote
Polysorbate 20 makes a nice emulsion with oil and water that rinses cleanly and isnt harsh or stripping like alkaline soap.

http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient.php?ingred06=705137

So its not "100% natural" but its derived from Lauric acid/coconut oil, not a petrochemical.
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Sun May 20, 2012 3:03 pm      Reply with quote
DarkMoon wrote:
Keliu wrote:
Here it is - DM, I may have tweaked it a bit since I first posted it.

1/4 cup Water
1 cup Castille Soap (I use the one with Peppermint Oil because it's good for hair)
2 tbspns Apple Cider Vinegar
2 tbspns Aloe Vera
1/4 tsp of Olive Oil

Whilst I'm shampooing with this in the shower, I've also been known to wash my face with it as well.


Thank you Keliu,

I thought you might have, and I don't know if you posted but it never made it to the recipe index.


Actually, both of Keliu's shampoo recipes are in the index in the hair section but I will add a listing for the latest 2012 version. HTHs. Smile
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Sun May 20, 2012 3:05 pm      Reply with quote
havana8 wrote:
DarkMoon wrote:
Keliu wrote:
Here it is - DM, I may have tweaked it a bit since I first posted it.

1/4 cup Water
1 cup Castille Soap (I use the one with Peppermint Oil because it's good for hair)
2 tbspns Apple Cider Vinegar
2 tbspns Aloe Vera
1/4 tsp of Olive Oil

Whilst I'm shampooing with this in the shower, I've also been known to wash my face with it as well.


Thank you Keliu,

I thought you might have, and I don't know if you posted but it never made it to the recipe index.


Actually, both of Keliu's shampoo recipes are in the index in the hair section but I will add a listing for the latest 2012 version. HTHs. Smile


Thank you Havana! Very Happy

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