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Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:31 am  |
Is anyone familiar with this micro current machine? My daughter recently had a treatment in a Med Spa and is so impressed with the results that she's looking into buying one.
One treatment tightened her jaw line much better than months of using Tua Viso.
Just wondering if Beautiful Image is better than most micro current professional machine and how it compares with others on the market. |
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Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:53 am |
| I've never heard of this treatment before - but from what I can gather, microcurrent is microcurrent, whether it's a professional machine or not. Apparently, it's not a really sophisticated technology, it's just a tiny electrical current. So maybe a cheaper home-use device can work just as effectively. But I have the Tua Viso and don't like it at all. It's too difficult to place on the face and get the muscles twitching appropriately. Other microcurrent machines have either a roller or two pronged heads that you simply glide over the skin and are much easier to use. |
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Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:35 pm |
| Thank you Keliu, I appreciate your reply. |
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trishaolsen
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Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:27 am |
| What is a micronutrient treatment? Is this much cheaper than doing a facial exercise which is more natural or even a facial cream? |
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:32 am |
Hi Belezza,
From what i've heard people are pretty positive about the Beautiful Image machine!
But it's a few thousand dollars. Pretty expensive. |
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:09 am |
This is some information about Beautiful Image from Moongoddess as posted on another thread..
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feeling the need to chime in here.
I've just had the opportunity to get treatments with the professional microcurrent machine called Beautiful Image.
you get 10 successive treatments 1 or 2 times a week, then once per month maintenance.
I'm going on my 8th week and am blown away by this damn machine...
I look sooo good... just like myself only way better -- like i did 10 years ago (actually more). It has lifted AND plumped my skin. Right after a treatment i look about 25, but then i slowly loose the gain... the thing is, there is always some gain that remains, and each time it lasts a little longer...
Now, this was gifted to me, and i was very skeptical. Especially as i saw the gain lost. Thought my friend had wasted her money... now i'm becoming a believer, (although now i'm questioning the once a month maintenance...)
Anyway, i've been thinking (and plotting) that maybe a home device might be all i need in between the Mother treatments. Maybe NuFace is it?
If any body has the opportunity to get the full protocol with Beautiful Image, i think you'll find it lives up to it's promise (and probably find it's what you've been after).
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:31 am |
| This machine costs $7,000.00 My daughter has been researching Pro Micro Current machines and found prices from $500.00 up. Not understanding the difference among them she wrote to Nanci @ NCN and found out Nanci is working on a microcurrent machine that will be available in the next few months. |
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:58 pm |
If ncn is putting out a microcurrent, I'd wait for hers to debut. That's where I'd put my money. (and probably will  )
Nanci is a stickler for details. She's been mentioning a machine launch for quite a while. |
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:22 pm |
| As I said in my initial post, I think microcurrent is a fairly basic technology so I'm not sure what the difference is between a hand-held battery operated device and a sophisticated salon machine (apart from all the bells and whistles, of course). The hand-held devices do tend to be more user friendly when using the device on yourself. I'll be interested to see what Nanci comes up with too. |
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:47 pm |
| Keliu, I'm surprised at your views... |
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:05 pm |
| Bellezza wrote: |
| Keliu, I'm surprised at your views... |
In what way? |
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:26 pm |
According to Moongoddes experience and my daughter's I would think that a professional machine can accomplish a lot more than a hand held device. I tried my daughter's Tua Viso and decided it's not for me. I wouldn't have the patience to use it every day for months to achieve very minor results.
I searched for a local place that has Beautiful Image, couldn't find one in my area so I can't talk from experience... |
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:38 pm |
| Bellezza wrote: |
According to Moongoddes experience and my daughter's I would think that a professional machine can accomplish a lot more than a hand held device. I tried my daughter's Tua Viso and decided it's not for me. I wouldn't have the patience to use it every day for months to achieve very minor results.
I searched for a local place that has Beautiful Image, couldn't find one in my area so I can't talk from experience... |
I'm not sure what the difference is between a salon and hand-held device in terms of power. From what I've read, microcurrent is so small that it can be delivered successfully with a 9v battery (which many hand-held devices operate on). I have both types of machines, the hand-held cost $75.00, the salon machine $600.00. The sensation delivered to the skin by both devices feels very similar to me.
However, I'm no expert on all of this and could be totally leading everyone astray. I do like the look of the large probes on the Beautiful Image machine.
BTW - the Tua Viso operates in a slightly different way than my other hand-held microcurrent machine. The Tua Viso must be placed on the skin to make the muscles contract. My microcurrent hand-held simply delivers the current into the skin - no twitching of any kind. So we're not really comparing apples with apples here. |
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:58 pm |
Keliu, Here's what Nanci said in an email:
"Yes, there really is a big difference between microcurrent machines. The machine you're talking about costs $7,000.00. So if you can find a professional device that really is true microcurrent for $500.00, that's an incredible price! I find it hard to believe that it's true microcurrent though...." |
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:03 pm |
In Nanci's newslatter she said that a professional microcurrent has 500 Ma (micro amps - 100 more than NuFace and the optimal amount for the most effecting lifting.
500 Ma is used in professional microcurrent units). |
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:08 pm |
| I plan to get a more professional microcurrent - at some point. I am happy with my nuface as a daily use item. I used it a few years back and I knew it was good stuff. When I stopped I could tell. Coming back to using it I'm so happy. I do not need botox and I also have a 'better lifted face' with it... Subtle results but real for me. Still - as it goes: I'm looking for a big daddy that will perform bigger results to maintain it all in between. From what I've heard there is a worthwhile difference. Looking forward.... |
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:15 pm |
| Bellezza wrote: |
Keliu, Here's what Nanci said in an email:
"Yes, there really is a big difference between microcurrent machines. The machine you're talking about costs $7,000.00. So if you can find a professional device that really is true microcurrent for $500.00, that's an incredible price! I find it hard to believe that it's true microcurrent though...." |
Well I know nothing about the specifications for all of these machines - so I'm interested in the fact that there is "true microcurrent" - what current is the hand-held delivering then?
Sounds like Nanci's machine is going to be expensive - can't wait to see it. |
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:12 pm |
| Keliu wrote: |
| Bellezza wrote: |
Keliu, Here's what Nanci said in an email:
"Yes, there really is a big difference between microcurrent machines. The machine you're talking about costs $7,000.00. So if you can find a professional device that really is true microcurrent for $500.00, that's an incredible price! I find it hard to believe that it's true microcurrent though...." |
Well I know nothing about the specifications for all of these machines - so I'm interested in the fact that there is "true microcurrent" - what current is the hand-held delivering then?
Sounds like Nanci's machine is going to be expensive - can't wait to see it. |
Same here. And it sounds like it will be pricey...I will want to know how the stats compare to the BI machine before purchasing. |
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:28 pm |
Toby posted this on another thread. It mentions that true microcurrent is less than 500 microamperes:
More about Cosmetic Microcurrent Microcurrent is a low level of electrical current that mirrors the body’s own natural current, sub-sensory in most cases. Its proven and accepted properties and potential range in application –from wound healing , muscle rehabilitation, and macular degeneration of the eye to lymphodema — continue to assist medical practitioners with amazing results.
Most microcurrent applications and results, whether they are medical or esthetic rely on the same mechanisms of actions.
Muscle re–education is most related to the term “facial toning”. There is 32 different muscles of the face that are manipulated during the average microcurrent treatment.
The 1982 Cheng study proves that ATP levels were increased by 500% on tissue that was treated utilizing less then 500 Ua. The study also indicated that ATP levels plummeted and depleted when treated with more than 500 Ua (visible muscle contractions.)
True microcurrent uses less that 500 microamperes(Ua) and because of its low intensity cannot cause visible muscle contractions.
Bearing this study in mind, it is understandable why individuals who use EMS-type devises, such as some hand -held devices seen on TV that use as much as 5000 Ua do receive some instant tone, however, when used cumulatively, create flaccid and lifeless muscles that are completely void of ATP.
The idea that ATP can be stockpiled or stored is the reason why microcurrent treatments results are cumulative and become better as a series of treatments progresses.
Aside from muscle re-education and massive increases in ATP levels, microcurrent has other proven benefits for esthetic applications. Emil Y Chi, PhD, director of the University Of Washington‘s department of pathology, performed clinical studies using microcurrent equipment. He notes,” The fact that technology works in harmony with the body is evident. Examination of the skin tissue treated with microcurrent showed a 45% increase in the number of elastin fibres in the dermis, and the length if the fibres on average doubled. The collagen thickness in the connective tissues increased 10%, And the numbers of blood vessels increased by 35%. The application of microcurrent to skin and tissue produced a firmer and tighter feeling on the skin surface.
Many of the studies detailing the massive increase in speed regarding wound healing refer to ATP as one of the attributing factors. The other attributing factor is an increase in blood circulation. Blood circulation has everything to do with the function, condition, color, and overall health of the skin, as underlying tissue.
Chi’s 2003 study performed at the University of Washington further notes a 35% increase In blood circulation Limphatic drainge is a very overlooked treatment in esthetics, although it has been gaining momentum in recent years. Clinical studies performed using microcurrent at Hong Kong’s Tuen Muen Hospital in 1988 indicated that Limphatic by 28% on post-cancer patients suffering from lymphodema.
Limphatic drainge is a very overlooked treatment in esthetics, although it has been gaining momentum in recent years. Clinical studies performed using microcurrent at Hong Kong’s Tuen Muen Hospital in 1988 indicated that Limphatic by 28% on post-cancer patients suffering from lymphodema.
Chi’s 1999 study also proved that the redness, irritation, and inflammation of surgically traumatized tissue could be decreased significantly when treated with microcurrent. Related to this, the buildup of hardened collagen that makes up scar tissue was noted to be 3 to 5 times less in tissue treated with microcurrent. Further studies also indicated an amazing dispersion of existing scar tissue when treated with microcurrent. This indicates that in the realm of plastic surgery, you can see the obvious place for microcurrent technology. By administering a series of treatments before surgery, muscle and tissue condition is maximized, inclusive of an excessive storage of ATP. Microcurrent treatment of sutures and trauma post-op decreases the down time by reducing inflammation, redness and irritation, while enhancing the healing ability and minimizing scar tissue. Post-surgery treatments also are vital to maintain the results of the surgical work.
In terms of product penetration, microcurrent offers specific Iontophoresis that allows superior penetration of water based products into the skin. The idea that the electrical current emits from one probe and returns to the other allows specific focus on products penetration, Chi’s 1999 study also proved that the redness, irritation and inflammation of surgically traumatized tissue could be decreased significantly when treated with microcurrent.
Related to this, the buildup of hardened collagen that makes up scar tissue was noted to be three times less in tissue treated with microcurrent. Further studies also indicated an amazing dispersion of existing scars when treated with microcurrent. This indicates that in the realm of plastic surgery you can see the obvious place for microcurrent technology. By administering a series of treatments before surgery, muscle and tissue condition is maximized, inclusive of an excessive storage of ATP. Microcurrent treatment of sutures and trauma post-op decreases the down time by reducing inflammation, redness and irritation, while enhancing the healing ability and minimizing scar tissue. Post- surgery treatments also are vital to maintain the results of the surgical work.
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=22907&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=50
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:51 pm |
According to the blurb here, NuFace also uses "True" microcurrent:
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| "True" microcurrent uses less than 500 microamperes (Ua). Only true, quality, professional-grade facial machines such as NuFace® use 0-500 microamps for optimal effectiveness and should never cause an actual "visual" contraction of the facial muscle. NuFace is compact, easy to use and very effective with a simple manual knob allows the user to turn the equipment on/off and adjust settings. NuFace is also used in spas and medical offices by professionals, for a non-invasive approach to facial rejuvenation in addition to complimenting many in-office and home treatments such as Facial Light Therapy |
http://www.jellenproducts.com/Microcurrent-Facial-Treatment-s/150.htm#technology |
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:59 am |
This is a good information posted by Marta at Truth in aging......she has been getting the salon microcurrent treatments for eight years along with using an at home LED. She credits these treatments to her being able to prevent sag and not having to resort to fillers. Note that she mentions that her machine used in New York is similar to the UK's CACI that Photoqueen has.
http://www.truthinaging.com/treatments/my-monthly-salon-facial-treatments |
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:08 am |
Now I'm totally confused...
What is ATP? Which machine would be best? |
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:16 am |
Bellezza,
Christine Byer, an EDS member, has some good videos to watch in regards to microcurrent treatments. She talked about the Nuface on one of the videos and gave it a thumbs up for a hand held device for home use. Her videos have been discussed on other threads. This is one of the latest and it help with the understanding of microcurrent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MJUJDMpTXE |
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:05 pm |
Thank you Toby and Keliu and others for being so helpful.
I've watched Cristinebyer videos on YouTube, if she reviewed NuFace I didn't find it. I'm beginning to lean towards NuFace since I expect Nanci's machine to be pricey. My daughter is willing to wait the 2.5 months it will take Nanci.
BTW I've almost convinced her to join EDS |
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:57 pm |
| Bellezza wrote: |
I've watched Cristinebyer videos on YouTube, if
she reviewed NuFace I didn't find it. S |
Hi Bellezz, below is a link in which Cristine byer participated in. Her name is girltwocb. I think on page 1 and 3 she talks about trying her mothers face master when she see her next. I do think I ask her on a thread somewhere how she liked it and she wasn't real impressed but I can't find that answer anywhere. You might be able to PM her and ask. She also talks about the nuface not having the 2 wands and says that is important for some of the different holds you do on the face muscles. I don't have any personal experience with any of these machine but am interested in them. Hope this helps.
https://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=46131&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0 |
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