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Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:17 pm  |
Cookie, thank you so much. I read the entire thread and it's very informative.
So far I've changed my mind about buying NuFace. |
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:19 pm |
This is the hand-held device that I have:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Microcurrent-Galvanic-Face-Lift-Ion-Skin-Care-Spa-/120761012569?pt=US_Skin_Care&hash=item1c1dead159
As you can see, it's very inexpensive - but it does operate inside of the correct parrameters. I purchased it instead of the NuFace because of its price. The NuFace is basically two prongs with a 9v battery - this device has two heads and is rechargeble.
Does it work well? Seems to. Has it made a visible difference to my face? Don't think so.
I wouldn't presume to recommend this to anyone - but, quite frankly, I don't know why the NuFace would be any better.
I'm going to put more effort into using my "professional" device - the trouble is, I think technique has allot to do with it. So I've got to get that right. |
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:42 pm |
| Keliu your gadget looks a lot like NuFace old model. Do you (or anybody)know the difference between galvanic and micro current? And what exactly is *True MC*? Nanci said that 500 micro amps is true MC but I read somewhere else that 500 is too high. |
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:17 pm |
| Bellezza wrote: |
| Keliu your gadget looks a lot like NuFace old model. Do you (or anybody)know the difference between galvanic and micro current? And what exactly is *True MC*? Nanci said that 500 micro amps is true MC but I read somewhere else that 500 is too high. |
True Microcurrent is less than 500ma. My hand-held device says this: "Galvanic Current level (Power level): 0.05mA--1.0 mA (Adjustable)" - not sure how that translates (we need a technical person).
Galvanic current is also called iontophoresis and uses + and - forces. It is used to penetrate topicals deeper into the skin. The other setting is used to flush debris OUT of the skin (cleaning).
As I said earlier, microcurrent is so small I don't think power delivery is a factor. That's why a simple 9v batter can be used.
My professional machine comes with added settings like a timer (it times the length of the microcurrent delivery) and a setting to set how deep it goes. |
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:16 am |
Keliu, which professional device do you have?
I really want a microcurrent machine, buy they are so varied.
very tempted by this one..
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/320789867287?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_8774wt_1270 |
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:26 am |
I can't find the one I purchased on Ebay any more. The one you linked to certainly looks ok - but honestly I'm really not the person to be asking. Maybe you could PM girltwocb - she's an aesthetician and makes tutorials on how to do microcurrent facials. She's just started a thread with the videos.
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?tid=46703
Also, Nanci from NCN is bringing out a microcurrent machine, but not till the end of the year. It may be worthwhile waiting to see what she comes up with. |
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:34 pm |
Hi everyone,
I just had to chime in, I think I heard my name mentioned and my ears were itching, as they say.
Microcurrent is one current that is universal. It's the waveforms and other bells and whistles that make each machine unique. But I have to say, without proper technique and holding times, not all treatments are effective. Plus, if the face is holding tension, Microcurrent can tense muscles more. If you don't release the muscles with simple massage first, the results aren't so noticeable. Lastly, lymph drainage before each session is crucial, otherwise it's just a "soupy mess".
About the Nuface, I think the design is cute, but you really need the wands for the most effective treatment.
Please check out all my videos. It will save you loads of time and effort. I post techniques and knowledge that has taken me 8 years to accumulate. (I've worked on hundreds of faces over the years as I'm an esthetician for 13 years now).
If you have any special requests about trouble areas please post them in the comments section on YouTube or here on eds. Finally, please watch the ads, if you would be so kind, so I can continue to provide quality content.
http://www.youtube.com/user/christinebyer/videos
Cheers,
Christine Byer
Master Esthetician specializing in microcurrent |
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:46 pm |
Christine - For you I will watch the ads. 
I've watched several of your you tubes. Do you think the gloves are useful in place of the wands or in addition to? I admit I only saw one with discussion of gloves.
Also are you aware of Tanaka massage? and if so how do you consider it in the scheme of microcurrent preparation?
Do you feel the NuFace is valuable as an everyday tool *for maintenance if you get a big daddy microcurrent? I like my nuface but am waiting for Nanci's release as something bigger and better. I always swear I look just a little better when I use the nuface. I used to use botox and no longer do. If I miss a nuface tx - it shows - unfortunately.
sorry - so many questions but you're here and I had to let it fly. Thanks so much for your help. ~~~Sis
| girltwocb wrote: |
Hi everyone,
I just had to chime in, I think I heard my name mentioned and my ears were itching, as they say.
Microcurrent is one current that is universal. It's the waveforms and other bells and whistles that make each machine unique. But I have to say, without proper technique and holding times, not all treatments are effective. Plus, if the face is holding tension, Microcurrent can tense muscles more. If you don't release the muscles with simple massage first, the results aren't so noticeable. Lastly, lymph drainage before each session is crucial, otherwise it's just a "soupy mess".
About the Nuface, I think the design is cute, but you really need the wands for the most effective treatment.
Please check out all my videos. It will save you loads of time and effort. I post techniques and knowledge that has taken me 8 years to accumulate. (I've worked on hundreds of faces over the years as I'm an esthetician for 13 years now).
If you have any special requests about trouble areas please post them in the comments section on YouTube or here on eds. Finally, please watch the ads, if you would be so kind, so I can continue to provide quality content.
http://www.youtube.com/user/christinebyer/videos
Cheers,
Christine Byer
Master Esthetician specializing in microcurrent |
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:04 pm |
Sis,
The gloves are absolutely incredible for "upping your game" in Microcurrent. They really helped deepen my understanding of how the muscles all work together, where the tension is and what's slack.
Yes I've seen the Tanaka massage. It seems wonderful, but with the right Microcurrent moves and a little knowledge, you can do all that the Tanaka accomplishes AND lift muscles in one treatment. (I mean, how much time do we want to spend on our faces, anyway? I have a two year old baby girl who just wouldn't stand for that!)
I've started doing private Microcurrent lessons via Skype or FaceTime. You learn alot in that time. I did one for another member here, and she said this about it (I'll let her reveal herself only if she wants to)
"About our session today.....You really caused me to think outside of the box....this is really good. I could see a big difference and there was way more sensations in my face afterwards than I have ever had before."
Cheers,
Christine |
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:43 pm |
| girltwocb wrote: |
I've started doing private Microcurrent lessons via Skype or FaceTime. |
I'm not sure when I will get a machine. May wait to see what NCN comes out with but I'll be sure to sign up for a lesson when I get one. What a great idea by the way. |
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Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:27 pm |
Thanks Christine. You are sharing some great experience for us and I am sure many EDS folks will want to have opportunity of your expertise. I'm private  somewhat But I might be happy to do an on-line face to face at some point . I know I love what I've seen.
Glad to know the gloves will do more than the Tanaka alone.
You are very appreciated Christine. |
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Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:11 pm |
Keliu, maybe you were right that "Micro current is micro current" regardless of the device used.
Dr. Perricone, who is a huge fan of MC treatments, says about the same thing in his book 'Forever Young'
He states "There is no difference between the power used in a home care system and that used in a professional machine"
"The treatments work on the muscles of the face through a combination of manual manipulation and biostimulation. Manual manipulation of the muscle is achieved through the use of two probes that gently massage the muscle along its origin and insertion points. The origin point of the muscle is the bone and the insertion point is where the muscle connects to the skin. Stimulating the muscle fibers at the origin and insertion point of the muscle involved gently coaxes them to stretch or shorten with no pain..... this process, known as muscle reeducation, is the cornerstone of microcurrent treatments. The two-hand design allows the user to manipulate the muscle along these points.... Simply applying microcurrent to the face in a static manner will have the same biostimulation effects on the tissue but will lack the muscle reeducation benefits found in the proper treatments"
So, as Keliu said, technique makes a difference. |
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Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:30 am |
| Bellezza wrote: |
Keliu, maybe you were right that "Micro current is micro current" regardless of the device used.
Dr. Perricone, who is a huge fan of MC treatments, says about the same thing in his book 'Forever Young'
He states "There is no difference between the power used in a home care system and that used in a professional machine"
"The treatments work on the muscles of the face through a combination of manual manipulation and biostimulation. Manual manipulation of the muscle is achieved through the use of two probes that gently massage the muscle along its origin and insertion points. The origin point of the muscle is the bone and the insertion point is where the muscle connects to the skin. Stimulating the muscle fibers at the origin and insertion point of the muscle involved gently coaxes them to stretch or shorten with no pain..... this process, known as muscle reeducation, is the cornerstone of microcurrent treatments. The two-hand design allows the user to manipulate the muscle along these points.... Simply applying microcurrent to the face in a static manner will have the same biostimulation effects on the tissue but will lack the muscle reeducation benefits found in the proper treatments"
So, as Keliu said, technique makes a difference. |
Keliu is absolutely correct! It is all in the technique!
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Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:26 am |
It would be much easier to use gloves, and if you just mimic the movements you would normally do with probes, and do lots of holding and lifting, I believe you would get a very similar result.
I don't know the machine which is linked, so I would google the machine name and see if you can find some reviews before spending any money on it.
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Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:52 am |
| This looks interesting. It comes from Denmark and electricity is 220/50. In US it's 120/60. Will we need a transformer or adapter? |
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Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:08 am |
I replied before reading the ebay listing for
Bio-Face-Lift-Micro-Current...
"All machines will be shipped with the correct electricity outlet for you!
UK 220-250V 3 pin plug for United Kingdom, EU 220-250V 2 pin plug for Europe or US 110V 3 pin plug for USA.
No additional cost to change voltage when you buy from us!
Please confirm the voltage and plug with your purchase!!" |
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Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:24 am |
Keliu,
I would ask the supplier what the waveform output is, as it must be a square wave, and what is the output in microamps, must be within the range of 160 - 500 maximum.
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Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:33 am |
Look what i read today:
When looking around at different types of units it is best not to ask other companies to compare their unit with different ones because of course they are going to tell you theirs is the best, so please make sure you do your homework and feel confident with the equipment and company you are doing business with, it's your investment.
Things to be aware of when doing your homework:
If it works off the main power supply and not off batteries then it is too strong to be a true microcurrent as you can not get the current down low enough from the main power supply (120v or 240v)
Is this really true???? |
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Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:36 am |
| Yams wrote: |
Look what i read today:
When looking around at different types of units it is best not to ask other companies to compare their unit with different ones because of course they are going to tell you theirs is the best, so please make sure you do your homework and feel confident with the equipment and company you are doing business with, it's your investment.
Things to be aware of when doing your homework:
If it works off the main power supply and not off batteries then it is too strong to be a true microcurrent as you can not get the current down low enough from the main power supply (120v or 240v)
Is this really true???? |
CACI is the industry leader in producing professional microcurrent machines and they are mains powered.
So I would ignore this guideline.
PQ |
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Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:48 am |
Very nice....I just added it to my watch list!
I wonder if we could get some pre-release info from Nancy on her machine and price point? |
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Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:58 am |
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That would be a good idea - but I don't think they will plug into my machine. My machine only has one outlet for the prongs - plus the outlet is actually broken and I have the current set of prongs taped up to it. If I pull out the prongs, the connection thingy falls inside the machine (in other words it's pretty stuffed!)
Now I'm lusting after this unit - it has the gloves and the prongs and packs away neatly. |
Keliu, i'm also really tempted to buy that one. I couldn't find any reviews about it, but there's a vid of a woman on youtu called Micro Current Face Lift and she uses it and she answers some questions about it in the comments.
It's developed in Japan (or China) and it's a typical: Sold many times on ebay by many different sellers - Device, if you know what i mean. They always say to avoid that kind of machines,  m. But it looks so cute and compact |
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Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:00 am |
| Bellezza wrote: |
I replied before reading the ebay listing for
Bio-Face-Lift-Micro-Current...
"All machines will be shipped with the correct electricity outlet for you!
UK 220-250V 3 pin plug for United Kingdom, EU 220-250V 2 pin plug for Europe or US 110V 3 pin plug for USA.
No additional cost to change voltage when you buy from us!
Please confirm the voltage and plug with your purchase!!" |
also this...
~★♥ ..... LOOKING FOR DISCOUNTS ?? ♥★~
We will be happy to offer the best price with discount for multiple items.
 Wholesalers/Resalers or bigger lots are more than welcome <<<
Please feel free to contact us if you are looking for more items. It will be our pleasure to assist you! |
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