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Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:58 am      Reply with quote
hey everyone, I'm a 20 year old female and am looking to improve the texture of my skin. I have huge pores on and 2cm from my nose (it looks like orange skin almost) and I guess it's part hereditary and part from wearing such heavy make-up since being a teen (and sunbeds which I don't use anymore!) I really want to improve the texture so I can stop wearing heavy make-up and feel more confident and have naturally beautiful skin - could anyone recommend a selection of products to use to help improve it?

I was thinking glycolic acid peels (I'm in the UK but they sell them in the USA) and I wanted to try retin-a but was worried about my skin looking red and peeling in public, which isn't lovely since I work with the public!

Any helps is greatly appreciated
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Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:59 am      Reply with quote
Sorry forgot to add in - could anyone recommend a regime/product to help remove blackheads from the nose without squeezing too? Thanks! Smile
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Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:34 pm      Reply with quote
Hi MissMay,

I would try a apple cider vinegar toner after washing your face. Use it both morning and night. I also use vitamin C serum with Aloe Vera in the morning. Both seem to my pores smaller and cleaner looking.

I used Braggs Apple Cider vinegar (don't know that this makes a difference but it's organic) and distilled water. I think it is Keliu's recipe. It's a 3-1 mix so for every tablespoon of vinegar add 3 of distilled water.

For the Vit C serum, use a teaspoon of Aloe Vera with about a 1/16 teaspoon of vitamin C powder. It might be the Aloe Vera that shrinks the pores also. I do put about 4 drops of avocado oil in with the serum. I think Aloe has MSM in it naturally so this helps with my hyperpigmentation also. This is enough to do my neck and arms so you might want to cut this in half. This might be Keliu's or Kassy's recipe if you want to search for it.

You're very young so I don't know if the vitamin C and oil would be too much for you. You might try the vinegar toner first and see if that works for you.

I'm always surprised how much dirt is still on my skin after I wash it. If you use the vinegar toner, look at the cosmetic pad after you swipe your face. The vinegar will give it a tea-stained look but usually you'll pick up more dirt.

Also try wetting a cosmetic pad with alcohol and swipe the back of your neck (or face if you're okay with that) and I think you'll be surprised with what you see. Hope this helps!

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Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:43 pm      Reply with quote
Start off with light glycolic peels - 15% or so, and then move up if you feel you need something stronger. Nowadays it's easy to do your own peels at home. I even did medium TCA peels at home - but that I would not recommend for the faint of heart...in fact I was pretty surprised that I was able to buy something so strong!
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Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:55 pm      Reply with quote
I agree with MaryClaire's advice. I don't think that people should get into peels til they're into their late 20's, unless they've got some kind of disasterous problem they're needing to correct. Even Vit c... see if you can get by without it first.

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Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:42 am      Reply with quote
You can minimize irritation with retin-a by using a very low concentration and applying a very small amount every 2-3 days, increasing frequency of application very slowly (like applying every 3 days for two weeks, applying every 2 days for two weeks). Also be sure your skin is completely dry by waiting 5-10 min after washing. Wetness increases irritation. If you are happy with results there is little reason to increase the strength. Sunscreen is an absolute.

I started using retin-a when I was 22 for other issues and have been using it on and off for 20+ yrs. Also have been using sunscreen since I was 21. Some may think 20 is too young for retin-a but if you don't go overboard you can use it practically forever as your skin needs it. I still use only 0.025%.

Beta-hydroxy acids will help with the blackheads but you have to be careful mixing exfoliants with retin-a which increases cell turnover. Exfoliating is useful with retin-a but it can also lead to more irritation.
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Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:47 pm      Reply with quote
BTW, after the routine, don't forget to put your favourite moisturizer of your choice....

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I would suggest for you to clean your face with warm water using a gentle foaming cleanser/gel to clean your face. I would suggest Obagi Gentle Foaming Cleanser (EDS sells this here).

There are 2 ways to remove blackheads:-

1) with extraction tools.
Use alcohol before and after to sterilize the area where the blackheads (your hands must be clean too). With the extraction tools, gently remove the blackheads (not with your hands please!). I have removed my mom's whiteheads with extraction tools. They were difficult to remove as they were very deep but I did it without damaging her skin. Now, she does not have any whiteheads!

2) use Boscia Illuminating Masque.
(your face must be a little damped) put it on your face. Wait 30 minutes to dry before removing it. The impurities will be plucked out from your skin. Sorry to say that EDS does not sell this type of Boscia but they do sell other types of Boscia. The shopping channel (www.theshoppingchannel.ca) sells it.

Make sure that you clean your face in the morning and at night-time before going to bed.
cleanser/gel to clean your face. DO NOT GO TO BED WITH YOUR MAKE-UP ON YOUR FACE AS IT WILL DEFINITELY CLOG YOUR PORES.

Use a gentle toner to pH balance your skin.
I suggest Obagi Toner (EDS sells this too).

I would not suggest Retin-A at this time as you are very young and you just wanted to improve your skin.... (But first you must get rid of the blackheads).

Once you do this "routine" every single day, you will see results in approx. 2 months. Don't expect results in 1 week as this is unrealistic goal.

Once your blackheads have diminished, you can start working on your skin, i.e. using vitamin C, vitamin E and all that.

DON'T FORGET TO USE SUNSCREEN OF AT LEAST 30 SPF. This is very important to protect your skin right now.

Email me here if you need further help.


MissMay12 wrote:
hey everyone, I'm a 20 year old female and am looking to improve the texture of my skin. I have huge pores on and 2cm from my nose (it looks like orange skin almost) and I guess it's part hereditary and part from wearing such heavy make-up since being a teen (and sunbeds which I don't use anymore!) I really want to improve the texture so I can stop wearing heavy make-up and feel more confident and have naturally beautiful skin - could anyone recommend a selection of products to use to help improve it?

I was thinking glycolic acid peels (I'm in the UK but they sell them in the USA) and I wanted to try retin-a but was worried about my skin looking red and peeling in public, which isn't lovely since I work with the public!

Any helps is greatly appreciated
May
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:20 am      Reply with quote
You can get a range of facial peels from here: http://www.bravuralondon.com/ they are also very reasonable.
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:07 am      Reply with quote
I would suggest a glycolic peel of 4%-5% to start for your age. Once your skin can tackle this strength and if you feel that you need more strength, you can buy 15% or 20% strength.

Also don't forget a healthy diet is extremely important for your skin. Drink plain clean water is better than sugared drinks for sure....

Immacolata wrote:
Start off with light glycolic peels - 15% or so, and then move up if you feel you need something stronger. Nowadays it's easy to do your own peels at home. I even did medium TCA peels at home - but that I would not recommend for the faint of heart...in fact I was pretty surprised that I was able to buy something so strong!
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jade-1234 wrote:
I would suggest a glycolic peel of 4%-5% to start for your age. Once your skin can tackle this strength and if you feel that you need more strength, you can buy 15% or 20% strength.
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Start off with light glycolic peels - 15% or so, and then move up if you feel you need something stronger. Nowadays it's easy to do your own peels at home. I even did medium TCA peels at home - but that I would not recommend for the faint of heart...in fact I was pretty surprised that I was able to buy something so strong!


I use a cleanser that has 5% in it, I doubt a peel of that strength would be strong enough to deal with the issues you want to address. If you went to a clinic to get it done, they would probably start with a stronger %.

I had my first peels done at Sk:n clinic, they used 30% for 2 mins and increased each week by two mins for a maximum of 10 mins. They did this for six weeks and then gave a four week break and started the process over again, as they are so expensive, I decided to start doing my own peels at home.

I went straight for a 30% as that was the strength I had always used, I found the one I bought much stronger than the one they used on me at the Sk:n clinic, but the last place I had a professional peel in used the same type of glycolic. I don't know if Sk:n clinic mix theirs with anything or what but the one I bought was much stronger. I would suggest you start with a 15% or a 20% peel and see how your skin takes to the glycolic. You could also check out the group buying websites for offers on glycolic peels (KGB deals, wowcher or groupon) they often have packages for a set of 2 or 3 peels.

I use 30% for 2 and a half mins, I don't intend to go no more than 3 and a half mins at the moment and I will very slowly take my time working my way up to 10 mins, I left the peel on for 4 and a half mins and noticed I had very slightly burned my skin, it was nothing serious at all, I doubt anyone else could even notice but I just take that as a warning, I'm not willing to take any unnecessary chances with my skin especially on my face.

This way you could try it out under supervision and have the peels done safely and professionally at a low cost. You will learn how to apply the peel, you can ask any questions you may have and when you have your initial consultation, they will tell you exactly what you need and how long for. I had 2 consultations at two clinics and was told that I would need a series of peels for about 2 years to achieve my desired results. I suffer from PIH, mild acne, blackheads and open pores on my T-zone.

The website I posted earlier in the thread offer an after purchase support service, you can call them and ask for advice from trained astheticians.

Sk:n clinic have a couple of glycolic cleansers and they are also sold at Boots online, there are many glycolic cleansers on the market, many of which contain 10-15% glycolic.
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Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:25 pm      Reply with quote
Well, for someone like MissMay12 who is unfamiliar with peels, I strongly suggest to start with a low dosage at first to ensure that there is no skin irritation that may occur. It is better to be safe (in regards to your skin) than sorry and say "I told you so....". She can easily increase the strengths once her skin adapts to the peel. In your particular case, you are very familiar with higher strengths since you've used it already, which means, that your skin has already adapted to the higher strengths of the peel. Any dosage lower will be insignificant in your case.

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I use a cleanser that has 5% in it, I doubt a peel of that strength would be strong enough to deal with the issues you want to address. If you went to a clinic to get it done, they would probably start with a stronger %.
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Well, for someone like MissMay12 who is unfamiliar with peels, I strongly suggest to start with a low dosage at first to ensure that there is no skin irritation that may occur. It is better to be safe (in regards to your skin) than sorry and say "I told you so....". She can easily increase the strengths once her skin adapts to the peel. In your particular case, you are very familiar with higher strengths since you've used it already, which means, that your skin has already adapted to the higher strengths of the peel. Any dosage lower will be insignificant in your case.


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I use a cleanser that has 5% in it, I doubt a peel of that strength would be strong enough to deal with the issues you want to address. If you went to a clinic to get it done, they would probably start with a stronger %.


What I was trying to say is that my first ever peel was a 30% strength, but it was done by a professional asthetician. I totally agree with you that it is better to be safe than sorry, that's why I gave an account of my experience of doing my own peels at home and also why I suggested that the OP starts with professional peels first. This would help her determine if the peels are suitable for her skin and also familiarize herself with the glycolic before doing them herself.
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Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:08 pm      Reply with quote
Another suggestion would be to use glycolic topicals to get your skin used to glycolic acid, for example, facial cleansers, exfoliating serums and moisturizers. The products should also help with the concerns you are trying to address, it's recommended that glycolic products are used while doing the GA peels.
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Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:40 pm      Reply with quote
You also have to take into account that MissMay12 works with the public. For someone as young as her, I strongly suggest 5% peel only, until her skin adapts to it. She can do at-home peel if it is 5% (save the money with a salon)... There is no down time as redness/peeling will be very minimal, hardly noticeable. She can opt for higher strengths later if she wishes... not start with 30% strengths right away if she is not used to these type of peels.

If MissMay12 starts with 5% peel
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What I was trying to say is that my first ever peel was a 30% strength, but it was done by a professional asthetician. I totally agree with you that it is better to be safe than sorry, that's why I gave an account of my experience of doing my own peels at home and also why I suggested that the OP starts with professional peels first. This would help her determine if the peels are suitable for her skin and also familiarize herself with the glycolic before doing them herself.
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Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:57 am      Reply with quote
For the occasional clogged pores on my nose, I found that nothing worked better than those cheap little pads that you buy - Stridex or whatever generic you can find - that contain salicylic acid in low percentages. A few days of using them morning and night on the affected area really cleared it up. I was quite surprised as I tried these in my teen years for bumps on my chin and they did nothing, just dried me out. But for blackheads they are awesome!

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Hi Jade~~ Do you think it is necessary or it can work better if I try some glycolic peel while doing Obagi MD regimen?

jade-1234 wrote:
I would suggest a glycolic peel of 4%-5% to start for your age. Once your skin can tackle this strength and if you feel that you need more strength, you can buy 15% or 20% strength.

Also don't forget a healthy diet is extremely important for your skin. Drink plain clean water is better than sugared drinks for sure....

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Start off with light glycolic peels - 15% or so, and then move up if you feel you need something stronger. Nowadays it's easy to do your own peels at home. I even did medium TCA peels at home - but that I would not recommend for the faint of heart...in fact I was pretty surprised that I was able to buy something so strong!

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Hello Zhenzhen Smile I would not recommend it at this time while using Obagi. You will peel as well using Obagi treatment... It is better to use all the Obagi products "together"....

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Hi Jade~~ Do you think it is necessary or it can work better if I try some glycolic peel while doing Obagi MD regimen?
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I see. I will use the whole Obagi CLENZIderm MD Acne Therapeutic System together.
Besides, a lot of people says that your skin will get red,very dry or even peeling off at the first few weeks. Did you have such problem? How long such getting worse could be?


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Hello Zhenzhen Smile I would not recommend it at this time while using Obagi. You will peel as well using Obagi treatment... It is better to use all the Obagi products "together"....

Zhenzhen wrote:
Hi Jade~~ Do you think it is necessary or it can work better if I try some glycolic peel while doing Obagi MD regimen?

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I am using Obagi Nu-derm so I can not comment on Obagi Clenziderm MD Acne Therapeutic System. Also, please note that this thread is for face peels, and not about Obagi products. You may want to start a new thread about Obagi Clenziderm MD Acne Therapeutic System or do a search. Thanks.

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I see. I will use the whole Obagi CLENZIderm MD Acne Therapeutic System together.
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LoriA wrote:
I agree with MaryClaire's advice. I don't think that people should get into peels til they're into their late 20's, unless they've got some kind of disasterous problem they're needing to correct. Even Vit c... see if you can get by without it first.


I agree. Skin changes don't generally show up till the late 20s and 30s. For now, you could use a Clarisonic and some anti aging topicals.
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