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Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:52 am      Reply with quote
Hi Everyone,

Can anyone please tell me?

1. Can facial skin be thickened?
2.What do you do to thicken the facial skin...

I am 38 and have noticed that my skin is thinning..
I ahve been using Retin A for past 8 months 3 times a week which I know is not much..

Please advice..

Thanks
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Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:16 am      Reply with quote
1. Yes it can

2. It depends how much you want to thicken it. Retin A thickens the dermis by thinning the epidermis. Derma rolling will thicken it to a degree. Flex effect claim some aspects of their programme thicken the skin. Massage e.g. Tanaka may thicken the skin.

As a side note, if it is is volume loss you are dealing with you may want to look in to professional treatments such as HA fillers, sculptra or fat injections. These things will give you really noticeable results that you simply cannot achieve from home-use gadgets or therapies.
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Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:53 am      Reply with quote
Emu oil thickens skin, apparently.
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Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:25 am      Reply with quote
Re Moonís no. 2 here, Retin A doesnít just thicken the dermis by thinning the epidermis. I used to chuckle because Iíve seen people say similar things in the past and people automatically think ďI donít want thatĒ. Retin A works by encouraging faster cellular turnover. It does thicken the epidermis, but this is minimal compared with what it is doing which is to thicken the inner parts of the dermis, and in so doing it stimulates both collagen and elastin production also. Retin A has more studies on it than any other topical out there, and rightly so in my mind. Itís a prescription medicine for good reason, and its terrible sometimes to read that people are self medicating, but then I understand that derms are a bit like doctors and there are some good and some bad ones out there. Iíve been very lucky with mine.

I am not sure that Tanaka thickens the skin, but think that it moves excess fluids out of the face. FlexEffect is aggressive handling of the skin, but having said that, I think any aggressive handling of the skin will stimulate it to thicken so would also include Ageless in that as well as Tonya Zavastroís stuff, and the Yumuna ball rolling also. I have no doubt it thickens the skin, Iíve used all those programs and know my skin is thicker as a result. The only thing I would add is that I am starting to think that there is perhaps a small part that supplements and diet have to play, but am thinking itís a very small part.

Moon wrote:
1. Yes it can

2. It depends how much you want to thicken it. Retin A thickens the dermis by thinning the epidermis. Derma rolling will thicken it to a degree. Flex effect claim some aspects of their programme thicken the skin. Massage e.g. Tanaka may thicken the skin.

As a side note, if it is is volume loss you are dealing with you may want to look in to professional treatments such as HA fillers, sculptra or fat injections. These things will give you really noticeable results that you simply cannot achieve from home-use gadgets or therapies.
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Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:32 pm      Reply with quote
I would look into getting products with collagen-boosting effects, like lotions with hyaluronic acid in them.
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Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:05 pm      Reply with quote
Dermarolller, Dermaroller, Dermaroller.
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Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:29 pm      Reply with quote
anhyalo wrote:
I would look into getting products with collagen-boosting effects, like lotions with hyaluronic acid in them.

hyaluronic acid does not have colagen-boosting effects. It is a moisturizing ingredient,though, as it can hold '1000 times it's weight' in water. (Good and bad in that, though)

There are many other ingredients out there that offer the collagen boosting effects - Vit C and Copper Peptides along with Retin A are a few of the gold standards.

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Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:08 pm      Reply with quote
OK, so Retin A doesn't thin the entire epidermis but it does thin the stratum corneum (the outermost surface of skin) which is part of the epidermis, which I'm guessing is what Moon was thinking about.


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mansil23 when I started Eva Fraser's workout at 20, the first thing I noticed was a thickening of my skin so that if I pinched my cheeks I grabbed a chunk of flesh and not a thin skin as I would notice in my friend who was my peer. She didn't have the papery skin of, say, my granny, but my cheeks were clearly thicker than hers. Another of the new fullness and firmness was I would be aware of them when I smiled. Even today in my 40's there's a thickness in the skin of my face that I attribute to face exercises.

Here's some info that may be helpful. The blue sentences are links to related articles that may further explain: http://www.carolynsfacialfitness.com/aging-skin-and-how-to-prevent-it

When people have dark circles, sometimes it is because of the thin skin under the eyes letting us see blood vessels. Face exercises can thicken that skin as happened to Shanti: http://www.carolynsfacialfitness.com/shanti

Here's another article on that: http://www.carolynsfacialfitness.com/how-do-the-eyes-firm-up-giving-the-appearance-of-youth
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