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Sat May 25, 2013 10:18 am      Reply with quote
I cleansed my face today with baking soda.
1 teaspoon of baking soda,2 teaspoons of water,
to make a watery paste.
I have never used a better cleansing agent than this.
Face looks and more importantly feels clean.
Anyone using baking soda for cleansing?

I have read also that afterwards you may want to put vinegar(1:8 with water) just to baance the ph after the soda which is basic in nature and the vinegar acidic.
I didnt do this stp but i plan on doin it .


Speaking about this kind of things,it is adviced to put at night a mask containing egg raw white and fresh lime juice.I might try this as well.

Any relevant experiences?

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Sat May 25, 2013 11:45 am      Reply with quote
I think it would be better to use it once in a while and not as daily regimen.. I cant be sure as I have not tried it.... but extreme pHs are not good for skin, especially basic pHs..
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Sat May 25, 2013 12:52 pm      Reply with quote
I recall a few people whose opinions I trust (on eds) advising against this. You could do a search if you're interested.

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Sat May 25, 2013 1:42 pm      Reply with quote
LoriA wrote:
I recall a few people whose opinions I trust (on eds) advising against this. You could do a search if you're interested.


Yeah i have seen many people advice it against.
But as i wrote,one could put afterwards 1:8
vinegar-water paste to balance the face's ph.

Also there are some weird dudes with 1 post,
claiming that baking soda made their face to break out,which sounds really weird for baking soda.

Btw a link how baking soda treats cancer.
http://healthnews.benabraham.com/html/stop_cancer_with_baking_soda.html

Internally i would begin to take 1 teaspoon
baking soda with 1 teaspoon of lime juice or vinegar.

When it comes to cleansing it really rocks,but i think one should go less abrasive and wash immediatey after cleansing.

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Sat May 25, 2013 7:09 pm      Reply with quote
Personally, I wouldn't inflict any of that to my worst enemy's skin. However, I'm curious how it works out for you in long term.

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Sat May 25, 2013 7:31 pm      Reply with quote
jazzi wrote:
Personally, I wouldn't inflict any of that to my worst enemy's skin. However, I'm curious how it works out for you in long term.


Actually, sodium bicarbonate makes bath water softer, especially when used with Epsom salts. Sodium bicarbonate is detoxing... When taken internally, Sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) can make the body less acidic...less acidic = anti-aging. This information can be found anywhere on the net. In fact, at one time Arm & Hammer box gave different recipes for medicinal purposes as well.
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Sat May 25, 2013 10:30 pm      Reply with quote
It makes sense. The baking soda is going to exfoliate because it's gritty, and remove bacteria because it's alkaline. You can just use an acidic toner afterwards which is what toners were originally intended for. It would probably be better to use something neutral or slightly acidic in the first place, but you can't have everything.

That being said: I've tried this before and my skin absolutely HATED it. My first instinct was to blame the high ph, but I used to use castile soap and oil to wash my face. So that's not it. Maybe it was the sodium ions? No way to tell. I'm glad others have found a cheap alternative but I'll have to sit this one out.
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Sun May 26, 2013 1:36 am      Reply with quote
jazzi wrote:
Personally, I wouldn't inflict any of that to my worst enemy's skin.


Hi jazzi! Could you say a bit more about your strong antipathy here? What experience or knowledge is your point of view based upon? Please share!
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Sun May 26, 2013 9:17 am      Reply with quote
I see this all of the time on Pintrest and I have tried it myself with no adverse reaction after trial and error. It has soooo many practical uses from toothpaste to stomach soother.
I think, as with anything new, go slow. I rubbed too hard the first time not realizing it was more abrasive than it felt and it did leave the skin a little raw. Plus, I don't do it all the time, just maybe bi-weekly.
You don't need much or for very long!

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Sun May 26, 2013 10:36 am      Reply with quote
Chlorophyll wrote:
It makes sense. The baking soda is going to exfoliate because it's gritty, and remove bacteria because it's alkaline. You can just use an acidic toner afterwards which is what toners were originally intended for. It would probably be better to use something neutral or slightly acidic in the first place, but you can't have everything.


I agree. Sure, you can normalize the p/h of your skin again by applying another product, but why put your skin through that in the first place, unless you're sure there are significant advantages to doing so. I haven't read of advantages from baking soda worth the ordeal.

It is cheap and natural, but as I understand, taxing to your skin, while there are far better things available. Even things cheap & natural.

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Sun May 26, 2013 10:22 pm      Reply with quote
I am with all who say heck no to baking soda. My skin hated it and I kicked myself for even trying it. I had tried it as a clarifyer for my hair and it turned my hair to a hard-bristled brush. I really blame the high pH. Don't even like Castille soap on my skin or hair. I am with LoriA: why create a problem so you can fix it when there are other ways to exfoliate.

Baking soda is good for internal use though, and that is the way I would use it. Never on my skin.
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I am with all who say heck no to baking soda. My skin hated it and I kicked myself for even trying it. I had tried it as a clarifyer for my hair and it turned my hair to a hard-bristled brush. I really blame the high pH. Don't even like Castille soap on my skin or hair. I am with LoriA: why create a problem so you can fix it when there are other ways to exfoliate.

Baking soda is good for internal use though, and that is the way I would use it. Never on my skin.
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Sun May 26, 2013 10:47 pm      Reply with quote
aprile wrote:
Actually, sodium bicarbonate makes bath water softer, especially when used with Epsom salts.


Epsom salt is magnesium sulphate which is a compound found in hard water. When you add sodium bicarbonate to magnesium sulphate, you create magnesium carbonate which means the magnesium ions are no longer suspended in the water causing hardness. So the water you made hard with epsom salts is softened when you add the sodium bicarbonate. You don't really need epsom salts and they don't improve the softening properties of baking soda.

It could be that a lot of people who report good results have hard water so the softening property of the baking soda makes the water feel better on their skin.
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Sun May 26, 2013 10:48 pm      Reply with quote
aprile wrote:
Actually, sodium bicarbonate makes bath water softer, especially when used with Epsom salts.


Epsom salt is magnesium sulphate which is a compound found in hard water. When you add sodium bicarbonate to magnesium sulphate, you create magnesium carbonate which means the magnesium ions are no longer suspended in the water causing hardness. So the water you made hard with epsom salts is softened when you add the sodium bicarbonate. You don't really need epsom salts and they don't improve the softening properties of baking soda.

It could be that a lot of people who report good results have hard water so the softening property of the baking soda makes the water feel better on their skin.
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Sun May 26, 2013 11:29 pm      Reply with quote
aprile wrote:
Actually, sodium bicarbonate makes bath water softer, especially when used with Epsom salts.


Epsom salt is magnesium sulphate which is a compound found in hard water. When you add sodium bicarbonate to magnesium sulphate, you create magnesium carbonate which means the magnesium ions are no longer suspended in the water causing hardness. So the water you made hard with epsom salts is softened when you add the sodium bicarbonate. You don't really need epsom salts and they don't improve the softening properties of baking soda.

It could be that a lot of people who report good results have hard water so the softening property of the baking soda makes the water feel better on their skin.
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Mon May 27, 2013 7:32 am      Reply with quote
catski wrote:
Hi jazzi! Could you say a bit more about your strong antipathy here? What experience or knowledge is your point of view based upon? Please share!


Alkali solutions damage skin. Plenty of recent research to prove that. It's not detrimental if something basic (> pH 7) is applied on face, once, twice a week, but doing it more often makes skin lose it's integrity, increased water loss, inflammation and less resistance to infections are the results.
Putting some baking soda in bath water won't do any harm, there is a ~150-300 liter bath tub and usually people use 1/2 cup of baking soda for a soak, it's waaaay less than 0.5% concentration. And there is 1 spoon of soda and 2 spoons water...
The other thing is the abrasive properties of baking soda. It scratches and tears skin, simple as that. Inflicting that upon skin no matter how often is just asking for trouble. I think even estheticians are advising against grainy scrubs nowadays, because even they have noticed how people end up with broken capillaries after using those products. Customers just think that those grains/beads are effective because if the rosy glow and skin is swollen and it looks for the moment like pores and fine lines are gone, but it's just irritation and ticket to long term skin damage.

Vinegar on the other hand is ok for skin, it basically diluted acetic acid (among others). But I doubt it can help against the damage soda does.

It's really one of those things where I read what people do to their skin, wince, shake my head in disbelief/confusion, re-read the whole thing and then still think, why on earth???

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Mon May 27, 2013 11:33 am      Reply with quote
jazzi wrote:

It's really one of those things where I read what people do to their skin, wince, shake my head in disbelief/confusion, re-read the whole thing and then still think, why on earth???


i know what you mean! when people start doing extreme things to their skin, their skin is in good condition n is able to take the abuse, but after a while is when it hits em what they have done... and then begins the process of baby-ing n healing the skin!
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Thu May 30, 2013 8:12 am      Reply with quote
Hi panoslydios - I use a mixture of baking soda and honey (about a tablespoon of each). It does foam quite a bit but subsides in a few minutes. I pre-mix it so it's ready when I shower. I apply this to my face and neck, massage it in, wait a few minutes and rinse off. My skin feels great - the honey moisturizes and keeps the baking soda from being too drying/harsh. Cheers, Bess
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