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Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:42 am      Reply with quote
I use regular table salt because I need the iodine. I don't use a lot, just enough to bring out the flavor. Unless you have high blood pressure, most people can have salt with no problem.
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Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:12 am      Reply with quote
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I use regular table salt because I need the iodine. I don't use a lot, just enough to bring out the flavor. Unless you have high blood pressure, most people can have salt with no problem.


Sounds you have fell for a scam.

Iodine copmetes chloride so the amount of iodine you get from salt is useless.
Also salt is one of the first reasons of calcification in blood vessels.

If you want better health throw all the table salt to the trash bin.

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Eat pineapples, and breathe air ! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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How often is "occasional" sex I would like to know? Does one intense session count for more than quickies?

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How often is "occasional" sex I would like to know? Does one intense session count for more than quickies?


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lol, thats a piece of panos wisdom that I have no problem with!

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SoftSkin wrote:
I use regular table salt because I need the iodine. I don't use a lot, just enough to bring out the flavor. Unless you have high blood pressure, most people can have salt with no problem.


Sounds you have fell for a scam.

Iodine copmetes chloride so the amount of iodine you get from salt is useless.
Also salt is one of the first reasons of calcification in blood vessels.

If you want better health throw all the table salt to the trash bin.


Read this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoitreYou might actually learn something.

Of course, you might want to tell us when you got your Nobel Prize in Medicine.
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Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:00 pm      Reply with quote
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SoftSkin wrote:
I use regular table salt because I need the iodine. I don't use a lot, just enough to bring out the flavor. Unless you have high blood pressure, most people can have salt with no problem.


Sounds you have fell for a scam.

Iodine copmetes chloride so the amount of iodine you get from salt is useless.
Also salt is one of the first reasons of calcification in blood vessels.

If you want better health throw all the table salt to the trash bin.


Read this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoitreYou might actually learn something.

Of course, you might want to tell us when you got your Nobel Prize in Medicine.



You take your iodine from the AIR .This is your main source especially if you live near the sea .Period
Cause human being is not designed to live in mountain cold climates.

The amount of iodine you get from salt is ridiculous concerning the fact that chloride(in salt) competes with it.Salt does more damage than good even if it has iodine.

I suggest everyone to STOP supplementing with POISONS LIKE IODORAL,LUGOLS AND THE LIKE CHEMICAL FORMS OF IODINE and seek iodine from sea plants(kelp,bladderwrack),trees and mainly from the AIR.
Breathe!

Also your last comment personally on me is showing you are UNHEALTHY!So i hope people will not fell for other's advice when these others are not HEALTHY and speak personally to others.
Because if they had figured it out they would be HEALTHY with NO VIOLENT SPEAKING,full of VIBRATION.

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Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:52 am      Reply with quote
Thought I'd just throw into this 'melee' Very Happy the school of thought that we should all be eating by blood type. Having read the book ages ago, it confirmed for me why I could never be a vegetarian - I always end up starving/irritable in the middle of the night if I don't have some animal protein every day.
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Thought I'd just throw into this 'melee' Very Happy the school of thought that we should all be eating by blood type. Having read the book ages ago, it confirmed for me why I could never be a vegetarian - I always end up starving/irritable in the middle of the night if I don't have some animal protein every day.


If we should all be eating by blood type - can you explain how the human race has managed to survived for thousands of years without that knowledge - given that blood typing was only discovered in the early 1900s? How can blood typing possibly relate to peoples still living in situations where this type of technology is unavailable?

All I know is the biggest killer is stress - and it seems to me that way too many people stress about what they eat - instead of taking a logical approach. You're all going to lead miserable, stressed out lives from worrying about whether you should have eaten that banana or not! Believe me, it's not worth it. Be happy, enjoy food, be thankful that you have enough to eat - just enjoy EVERYTHING in moderation.

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Thought I'd just throw into this 'melee' Very Happy the school of thought that we should all be eating by blood type. Having read the book ages ago, it confirmed for me why I could never be a vegetarian - I always end up starving/irritable in the middle of the night if I don't have some animal protein every day.


This book has to be some serious nonsense.
Every human being needs just HUMAN food aka fruits,air and sun.Period.

You were in a good detox state and you failed by putting dead stuff aka meat.

I suggest people to throw away the meat from the freezer and the table salt to the trash bin.IF they want a better health.After all it is just about keeping the body clean.Salt is crystal!!!!so the body has some difficult time to detox it properly.

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All I know is the biggest killer is stress - and it seems to me that way too many people stress about what they eat - instead of taking a logical approach. You're all going to lead miserable, stressed out lives from worrying about whether you should have eaten that banana or not! Believe me, it's not worth it. Be happy, enjoy food, be thankful that you have enough to eat - just enjoy EVERYTHING in moderation.


BRAVA! Its not rocket surgery folks!

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Tyger wrote:
Thought I'd just throw into this 'melee' Very Happy the school of thought that we should all be eating by blood type. Having read the book ages ago, it confirmed for me why I could never be a vegetarian - I always end up starving/irritable in the middle of the night if I don't have some animal protein every day.


If we should all be eating by blood type - can you explain how the human race has managed to survived for thousands of years without that knowledge - given that blood typing was only discovered in the early 1900s? How can blood typing possibly relate to peoples still living in situations where this type of technology is unavailable?

All I know is the biggest killer is stress - and it seems to me that way too many people stress about what they eat - instead of taking a logical approach. You're all going to lead miserable, stressed out lives from worrying about whether you should have eaten that banana or not! Believe me, it's not worth it. Be happy, enjoy food, be thankful that you have enough to eat - just enjoy EVERYTHING in moderation.


I don't actually follow this diet - in fact I don't follow any particular diet at present - but it did give me a possible explanation, where nothing else has, as to why I can't become vegetarian (I did try and fail when younger) without feeling very, very hungry... As living on air and pineapples came up, I thought I'd just throw this in for anyone who was looking for other possible ways to eat Smile -
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I failed miserably at vegan/vegetarian diet too Tyger. And looked pitiful, pale and puny. I know there are vegan athletes and more power to them if it makes them happy. I havent read the Blood Type book, just throwing it out there too! I need my rare steaks and salmon sushi, but no to dairy, gluten and sugar.

Btw, Bill Clinton has gone vegan after his heart troubles. He looks horrid and has really aged! Dont know if thats d/t the heart troubles/stress/bad food/bad choices all his life/drastic weight loss or the vegan diet, but it doesnt convince me that vegan's the way to go.

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Tyger wrote:
Thought I'd just throw into this 'melee' Very Happy the school of thought that we should all be eating by blood type. Having read the book ages ago, it confirmed for me why I could never be a vegetarian - I always end up starving/irritable in the middle of the night if I don't have some animal protein every day.


This book has to be some serious nonsense.
Every human being needs just HUMAN food aka fruits,air and sun.Period.

You were in a good detox state and you failed by putting dead stuff aka meat.

I suggest people to throw away the meat from the freezer and the table salt to the trash bin.IF they want a better health.After all it is just about keeping the body clean.Salt is crystal!!!!so the body has some difficult time to detox it properly.


I would think it is no more nonsense than living solely on air or fruit! I believe in moderation and a varied diet, which has to include all the major food groups Very Happy

Incidentally, many children (and indeed adults) in the UK are vitamin D deficient because there isn't enough sunshine - many children have been put on supplements (I have worked in the health service)- where is the extra vit D to come from in your diet?
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I failed miserably at vegan/vegetarian diet too Tyger. And looked pitiful, pale and puny. I know there are vegan athletes and more power to them if it makes them happy. I havent read the Blood Type book, just throwing it out there too! I need my rare steaks and salmon sushi, but no to dairy, gluten and sugar.

Btw, Bill Clinton has gone vegan after his heart troubles. He looks horrid and has really aged! Dont know if thats d/t the heart troubles/stress/bad food/bad choices all his life/drastic weight loss or the vegan diet, but it doesnt convince me that vegan's the way to go.


Hi fawnie, I can't work out how vegan athletes do it! Maybe it's their blood type Laughing

Bill Clinton may be healthier now but I agree he certainly looks older. He looks like he could do with a good steak! Hillary, on the other hand, looks great! I believe older people should have a bit more meat on them (me included!) rather than youthfully thin - as the collagen diminishes, one needs that extra layer of fat Very Happy
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Not sure if I want to pack on the pounds just to fill out the bones tho!

Maybe its maintaining a steady state throughout life and not going from too heavy to too thin later on to try to catch up. The flesh hangs. Bill could use a lot of things but maybe some dermarolling would help! Esp the upper eyelids. He's starting to look frail.

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I have so many random thoughts on all of this...
Fwiw, I'm with the others who say "it ain't rocket science" ..eat a wide variety of fresh foods and limit processed foods (preferably to zero, but ..)

1) curious what "occasional" sex means in terms of actual frequency. There are so many benefits (oxytocin anyone?) that I'm sure "frequent" sex would be even better than occasional. But fruitarianism, and most (all?) other forms of extreme diets, results in low libido. There are several fruitarians on Internet trying to convince us that low libido is healthier...

2) I think of the Boutenkos as the first family of Raw Food. Even they had to "invent" the green smoothie because their health was plummeting after years of too few greens. They had been eating a mostly fruit diet.

3) I had a stint as a vegetarian after reading The China Study. It just wasn't for me. Denise Minger did a great debunking of that study. http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/

4) when I think of Clinton, I think of the documentary Forks over Knives. Denise Minger also did a great debunking of that here: http://rawfoodsos.com/2011/09/22/forks-over-knives-is-the-science-legit-a-review-and-critique/

Anyway... Thanks for indulging my random thoughts!
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This discussion reminded me of when ABC 20/20 examined Orthorexia (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthorexia_nervosa)--the unhealthy obsession with eating healthy foods and avoiding foods considered to be unhealthy. One of orthorexics they showed was this guy (below), who to me seemed to perfectly represent the phrase "dying to be healthy" because he looked like he was wasting away despite his meticulous effort to eat healthily.

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More about this morbid obsession with healthy eating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi1Llch3uqU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Frail, that's the word.
There definitely is something lacking in his diet.
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Frail, that's the word.
There definitely is something lacking in his diet.


If you mean the guy I posted, I'd guess nourishment with sufficient bodybuilding food that is readily found in animal protein was one thing lacking in his diet.
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Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:13 am      Reply with quote
No I was commenting on Bill Clinton (and in the mean time your response came). The picture you posted is horrible. How can a healthy young man do this to himself?
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You don't need meat to survive -- I didn't eat meat for decades, getting protein from fish, yogurt, eggs, beans. I have a hard time digesting it and never really cared for it. I have always taken lots of supplements though. I really don't care what anyone else eats. It's not my stomach.

I don't see the point of veganism, which is to save living things from suffering. Chickens would suffer if they couldn't lay eggs (not to mention become extinct); cows would suffer if no one milked them; bees would still make honey if no one ate it. However, there is no excuse for not humanely raising animals, which is the bottom line. 'Factory farming' must stop.
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I know some people define meat as mammalian protein, but others (myself included) define it as any animal protein.
So fish is meat (in my version).

No matter, though, as you make a good point. I think pescatarianism (is that a word?) is for the most part a very healthy diet.


Eta: should have used "flesh" rather than "protein" in above. I consider an egg to be animal protein, but I don't call it meat. Smile
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