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Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:32 pm  |
Hi,
I've just bought a 0.5 dermaroller I've never used one before and am unsure what I can use afterwards.....
Am I right......
Sterilise roller
Wipe face with antibacterial wipe or alcohol wipe?
use roller
sterilise roller
wait to use product maybe an hour?
Can I use argan oil after as it has high concentration of vit e and is natural or will it clog pores?
I have 20% vit c serum but read somewhere that using this could cause skin necrosis.....is that actually true I guess if it improves penetration up to 90% i[code]t could cause more harm than good?
Alternatively I could buy one of those serums sold with rollers or any suggestion.. |
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Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:17 am |
| I tried the dermaroller and next day was very impressed my face still looked a bit red I applied the vit c the following morning and my face stung and went bright red not sure if thats a good sign but my skin did look better as I'm only using a 0.5 I hope using the vit c so soon after is okay? I did have spots of blood and was quite vigorous I may just try the argan oil next time and leave the vit c for a couple days later I'm scared by images of skin necrosis! |
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Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:50 pm |
Um, I think you may need to do more homework! 
Please read this excerpt from Dr Setterfield's Concise Guide to Dermal Needling (first edition):
"Skin prep. home: (we prep for 4 weeks before needling)
Ensure product composition is matched to the skin condition in question.
1. Supplements [ enteric coated omega 3, glucosamine and multi vitamins.
2. Cleaners and toners
3. Topical Vit A [ Best result, but more side effects with higher doses]
4. Topical Vitamin C
5. Topical antioxidants
6. Topical Copper peptides[ CuGHK].
7. Topical growth factors.
8. Sunscreen
Post treatment: Inflammatory and Lag Phase: The Goal is to work with , not against the forces of nature.
Days 1-5
Nutritional Supplements:
Omega 3
Vitamins A + E
Colostrum
Vitamin C
Calcium
Topical Anti Ox:
ALA
Omega 3
Glutathione
Resveratrol
Introduces Lymph drainage here
Days 5-14 Fibroplastic phase / Wound healing
Nutritional Supplementation= same + Minerals, Iron, Zinc, Copper, Calcium
Topical:
ALA
Vitamines A,C,E
Omega 3
Glutathione
Resveratrol
Colostrum
Copper peptides.
Introduces Lymph drainage here as well^^
Maturative Phase : 14-28 days- 2years- Wound healing
Nutritional supplements: Same as above
Topical:
Antioxidants [ not specific]
ALA
Vitamins A,C,E
Glutathione
Resveratrol
colostrum
Copper peptides
Sunscreen
And introduces Ionotophoresis and Ultrasound here."
Something like HA serum or ACE oil (with oil soluble forms of A and C, not acidic) or Infadolan A&D ointment (according to whoever's protocol you follow) would be better than an acid C serum immediately post-roll.
You have a 15 min window to get actives into the channels created by the needles. |
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Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:49 am |
Dermaroller can sterilized by soaking it in a denture tablet solution for 30 min. Then rinse the roller under hot water and let it dry. I usually blow dry it before using.
And my protocol for using 1 mm dermastamp is the following:
1) Wash the face with mild soap.
2) Wipe the face and hands with alcohol.
3) Apply either EMLA or Lidocaine (anaesthetic) on just the face, cover the face with a saran wrap. Wait for 45 minutes.
4) Remove EMLA with a wet cotton disc, wipe the face with alcohol one more time.
5) Stamp the face. Wash the stamp occasionally with sterile normal saline.
6) After stamping is done, I wash my hands with soap, and the face with tepid water and wipe the face with a clean paper towel or blow dry it.
7) Apply a GHK mask from owndoc. One may also use a homemade (without preservatives) HA serum.
Then I repeat the same protocol with my neck.
Personally, I do not recommend Dr Setterfield's book as I find that the protocol is not very well explained. Second, there are no specific recommendations for products that can be safely used post-roll. He just says that active ingredients must be used after a cosmetic roll, but in what percentages and form? And where one can find a product with all the actives and without preservatives, emulsifiers, emollients and all the parabens that he lists? |
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I also think that is why many people don't get the great results that they could, or later complain a year later that their skin looks worse. And why I think rollers will eventually get banned in the US.
