Skin Experts Please Help Me Make A Good Routine !!!!!
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free skin care · Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:17 am

I would like some help with making my routine and with the products I use and if they are ok to use all together. I am going to list the ingredients for each product because sometimes I'm not sure if I can put something on top of something or what order I should apply my products. I am a beginner in making an anti-aging routine and don't know much at all about how to start caring for my skin. I used to use just one cream at night, but I've learned I need to use more products now. I do not exfoliate because my skin can't seem to take it in any form. The closest I come to it is yogurt masks one in a while. My main concern is preventing wrinkles, bettering appearance of fine lines, and hydrating my skin because it is very dry and dehydrated. Please bare with me for this post may seem a bit long, but I would appreciate lots of help.

First: Cerave Hydrating Cleanser (with ceramides and hyaluronic acid)
INGREDIENTS:
Purified Water, Glycerin, Behentrimonium Methosulfate and Cetearyl Alcohol, Ceramide 3, Ceramide 6-II, Ceramide 1, Hyaluronic Acid, Cholesterol, Polyoxyl 40 Stearate, Glyceryl Monostearate, Stearyl Alcohol, Polysorbate 20, Potassium Phosphate, Dipotassium Phosphate, Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate, Cetyl Alcohol, Disodium EDTA, Phytosphingosine, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Carbomer, Xanthan Gum

Second: Olay Age Defying Anti-Wrinkle cream on face and neck, but not under eyes.
INGREDIENTS FOR OLAY: WATER, GLYCERIN, ISOHEXADECANE, NIACINAMIDE, DIMETHICONE, ISOPROPYL ISOSTEARATE, POLYACRYLAMIDE, TITANIUM DIOXIDE, PANTHENOL, TOCOPHERYL ACETATE, RETINYL PROPIONATE, ETHYLHEXYL SALICYLATE, ASCORBIC ACID, STEARYL ALCOHOL, C13-14 ISOPARAFFIN, LAURETH-7, DIMETHICONOL, AMMONIUM POLYACRYLATE, CETYL ALCOHOL, POLYETHYLENE, ALUMINUM STARCH OCTENYLSUCCINATE, BEHENYL ALCOHOL, BENZYL ALCOHOL, CETEARYL GLUCOSIDE, CETEARYL ALCOHOL, ETHYLPARABEN, STEARIC ACID, PEG-100 STEARATE, PROPYLPARABEN, DISODIUM EDTA, FRAGRANCE.

For under eyes: Phytomer HYDRASEA Polarized Water Serum
INGREDIENTS:
Aqua (Water)/ Eau, Glycerin, Betaine, Isononyl, Isononanoate, Butylene Gycol, Triethylhexanoin, Hydroxyethyl Acrylate/Sodium Acryloyldimethyl Taurate Copolymer,Phenoxyethanol, Bis-Peg-18 Methyl Ether Dimethyl Silane, Glycerth-26 Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Ppg-5gceteth-20 Acrylates/C10-30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer, Chlorphenesin, Maris Sal (Sea Salt) /Sel Marin, Parfum (Fragrance), Sodium Hydroxide, Polysorbate 60, Sorbitan Isostearate, Sorbitol, Hydrolyzed Algin, Lecithin, Biosaccharide Gum-1, Undaria Pinnatifida Extract, Salicornia Herbacea Extract, Mari Aqua (Sea Water) / Eau De Mer Chlorella Vulgaris Extract, Xanthan Gum, Caprylyl Glycol, Disosium, Edta, Bht, Ci 77491 ( Iron Oxides).

Third: Cerave AM/PM lotion for face
INGREDIENTS for Cerave AM:
Active Ingredients: Homosalate, Octinoxate, Octocrylene, Zinc Oxide
Inactive Ingredients: Purified Water, Niacinamide, Behentrimonium Methosulfate, Cetearyl Alcohol, Glycerin, Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate, Boron Nitride, Dimethicone, Ceramide 3, Ceramide 6-II, Ceramide 1, Cholesterol, Hyaluronic Acid, Phytosphingosine, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Disodium EDTA, Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Carbomer, Xanthan Gum

INGREDIENTS for Cerave PM:
Purified Water, Glycerin, Caprylic/Capric Triglycerides, Niacinamide, Behentrimonium Methosulfate and Cetearyl Alcohol, Ceteareth-20 and Cetearyl Alcohol, Ceramide 3, Ceramide 6-II, Ceramide 1, Phytosphingosine, Hyaluronic Acid, Cholesterol, Dimethicone, Polyglyceryl-3 Diisostearate, Potassium Phosphate, Dipotassium Phosphate, Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate, Disodium EDTA, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Carbomer, Xanthan Gum

OR instead of Cerave Lotions, I could use a Hyaluronic Acid Serum like Dermalure's Hyaluronic Acid Serum
INGREDIENTS:
Hyaluronic Acid, Aqua

OR I am looking into purchasing Elizabeth Arden's Ceramide Capsules Daily Youth Restoring Serum
INGREDIENTS:
Dimethicone, Cyclopentasiloxane, Squalene, Cyclohexasiloxane, Isostearic Acid, Ceramide 1, Ceramide 6 Ii, Borago Officinalis Seed Oil, Linoleic Acid, Linolenic Acid, Retinyl Linoleate, Retinyl Palmitate, Tocopherol, Phytosphingosine, Oleic Acid, Hexadecanolactone.

Fourth: Nivea Anti Wrinkle Q10 Plus Night Cream (I use the "night cream" for both day and night)
INGREDIENTS:
Aqua, Glycerin, Ethylhexyl Cocoate, Methylpropanediol, Cetyl Alcohol, Hydrogenated Coco-Glycerides, Stearyl Alcohol, Butylene Glycol, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Butyrospermum Parkii Butter, Glyceryl Stearate Citrate, Macadamia Ternifolia Seed Oil, Ubiquinone, Creatine, 1-Methylhydantoin-2-Imide, Panthenol, Lanolin Alcohol, Tridecyl Stearate, Tridecyl Trimellitate, Dipentaerythrityl Hexacaprylate/Hexacaprate, Sodium Carbomer, Ethylhexylglycerin, Phenoxyethanol, Trisodium EDTA, Methylparaben, Limonene, Linalool, Citronellol, Hydroxyisohexyl 3-Cyclohexene Carboxaldehyde, Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone, Geraniol, Benzyl Salicylate, Hexyl Cinnamal, Benzyl Alcohol, Parfum.

Fifth: Shiseido SPF 50+ Sunscreen
INGREDIENTS:
Active Ingredients: OCTINOXATE 7.4%
OCTOCRYLENE 3.0%
TITANIUM DIOXIDE 1.7%
ZINC OXIDE 19.3%
Inactive: WATER, SD ALCOHOL 40-B, ISOHEXADECANE, BUTYLENE GLYCOL, DIMETHICONE, ISOPROPYL MYRISTATE, POLYMETHYL METHACRYLATE, LAURYL PEG-9 POLYDIMETHYLSILOXYETHYL DIMETHICONE, XYLITOL, GLYCERIN, DISTEARDIMONIUM HECTORITE, POLYBUTYLENE GLYCOL/PPG-9/1 COPOLYMER, ISODODECANE, TRIMETHYLSILOXYSILICATE, PEG-6, PEG-32, SAXIFRAGA SARMENTOSA EXTRACT, SCUTELLARIA BAICALENSIS ROOT EXTRACT, ONONIS SPINOSA ROOT EXTRACT, ECTOIN, SOPHORA ANGUSTIFOLIA ROOT EXTRACT, HYDROGEN DIMETHICONE, SILICA, CARBOXYDECYL TRISILOXANE, TRISODIUM EDTA, SODIUM ACRYLOYLDIMETHYLTAURATE/METHACRYLAMIDOLAURIC ACID COPOLYMER, ALUMINA, POLYMETHYLSILSESQUIOXANE, TALC, ALCOHOL, TRIETHOXYCAPRYLYLSILANE, BHT, SYZYGIUM JAMBOS LEAF EXTRACT, TOCOPHEROL, PHENOXYETHANOL, FRAGRANCE

Sixth: Erno Laszlo Active Phelityl Cream
INGREDIENTS:
Petrolatum, Carthamus Tinctorius (Safflower) Seed Oil, Lanolin Alcohol (Lanolin), Diisopropyl Adipate, Diethylhexyl Succinate, Propylene Glycol Dipelargonate, Parfum (Fragrance), Silica, Isopropyl Palmitate, Isopropyl Myristate, Isopropyl Stearate, Bht, Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone, Citral, Citronellol, Coumarin, Geraniol, Limonene, Linalool, Ci 77947 (Zinc Oxide)

Now, here are my questions.

I want to know if I can put the Erno Laszlo cream on top of the Nivea cream (only to use as a night time treatment, not sure if I can wear it in the day on top of the already shiny Nivea COQ10 because the Erno Laszlo cream is also super shiny and greasy since it's basically a petrolatum based moisturizer. IF I decided to use the Erno Laszlo on top of the Sunscreen in the day time as a last step, would it ruin the sunscreen making it ineffective somehow?

Is this order a good order to apply each of these products?

Out of the options I listed for step Three, which option should I choose to go with?

Are there any products I listed that have ingredients that might not work synergistically with the other products?

Is it ok for me to not use a primer? The reason I ask about primer is because I feel the Shiseido sunscreen almost seems to act like some type of a primer, I don't know why and what ingredients in it help with makeup application...but my makeup looks better on top of it than without. Do I still absolutely need a primer on top of the sunscreen? Do I need a primer if I end up deciding to use the petrolaum based Erno Laszlo which mabye would act like a barrier to keep the makeup on top of the other products? Also, I don't understand what a primer is. Is a primer to seal in everything on your face so your makeup can't sink into all your previous products and if that's the case, how does the primer manage to do that? I mean, what ingredients could be in it that actually seals in your moisturizers underneath so the makeup doesn't sink into them? Or is primer ONLY for smoothing out the look of the skin and making the makeup go on better and stay on longer?

My other question is that hyaluronic acid draws in moisture from the environment, right? So if I put the Nivea COQ10 on top, can this product make it ineffective for the hyaluronic acid to draw in water to the skin? What about with the Erno Laszlo cream which is petrolatum based?? I ask because I wonder if the hyaluronic acid could have trouble drawing in moisture from the environment into the skin since I've read petrolatum seals in the moisture that's in the skin and protects from outer environment acting like a barrier...?

I don't user toner as of right now because my skin doesn't seem to like toners, it gets dry immediately after one use! I need to find a good toner that is alcohol free and perhaps has hyaluronic acid etc. Or, I was thinking of making a sea salt toner, a green tea toner or some other toner that is simple. Even maybe using milk as a toner...just not sure if I wash it off or let it dry and continue applying next product over milk. I'm open to suggestions. I would like to use something very hydrating for the toner preferably with hyaluronic acid in it, my skin is severely dry. I have thought of trying Shiseido's hydrating toner, but haven't purchased as of yet.

Please let me know what order would be best to apply my products and any tips and advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for reading all of this !!!

free skin care · Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:36 pm

Wow a lil overwhelming. Likely why no one has responded yet.I will give you my 2 cents. I won't comment on much of your products as I am not too impressed with them.

The Shiseido SPF 50+ Sunscreen looks like a great sunscreen. Love the ingredients but I bet it's pricey.
The Cerave PM is a great option. Has proven % of Niacinamide.I use it myself.
Not much else to tell you other than I would recommend a good C serum. Either make one yourself or buy one from Cosmetics Skin Solutions.
And you should consider Retin-A (Tretinoin)
But go slowly when starting on these last 2 items together. Do your research.

Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:21 am

That seems like a lot IMO. I used to d that and ruined my skin. Now I stick to a much simpler/gentler routine.

Definetly keep the sunscreen (Shiseido is good) and the Cerave cleanser is good too. I would add in some gentle exfoliation 1-2 times a week. I like to use face oils (mix my own) and find that is enough moisture for me.

Again, I did the retin-a, vit c serum, special eye cream, AHA's, TCA peels, etc etc in the past and it was not good. Less is better IMO.

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