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Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:51 pm  |
http://acaciadermacare.com/default.aspx?PageID=1054
$65 +$10 postage PayPal only from Acacia. Just released Oct 25 2013 they say.
If I didnt already have the 2010 ed. Id buy it but $75 is a little spendy for what may not be anything that I would change about my routine. I *am* curious as to what the "ingredients to avoid" are, but I already have my own list!
It looks like he is going to address the use of the needling pen also, from the picture on the cover.
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Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:14 pm |
| Thanks Fawnie. I just ordered it. |
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Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:45 pm |
Fawnie - ty for posting this!  Do you think this adds to his original book based on the table of contents?
Cookie - Based on the table of contents would you say this is different (perhaps more complete) than his original book? Which I am pretty sure you have? |
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Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:18 pm |
| Cabrita- I am not sure. I think this one will have more information about the electric rollers and I am interested in that. Also I hope some of the case studies will be new or have longer term results from studies done earlier? |
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Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:56 pm |
| fawnie, thanks! Ordered. |
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Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:15 pm |
| Hey Thank you Fawnie. I just ordered it also:) |
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:34 am |
| thanks Fawnie, just going to have a lookie at it!! |
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:42 am |
| Ive just looked at it, it seems to have some similar case studies ( I recognise the pics) but also extra info, it may well be worth it just for the extras! I really would like to know his opinion on the electric pens too, so I think I am going to order it anyway, I think with needling it is really good to keep up with the new developments as I dont want to find out that I have been doing something that isnt good! |
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:34 am |
Cookie - TY for your response!  Very helpful since I do not have the original book. I have had very good results from needling (but frankly need to be more consistent) and new tips never hurt! I will order. |
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:58 pm |
| cabrita wrote: |
| Fawnie - ty for posting this! Do you think this adds to his original book based on the table of contents? <snip> |
Sorry, didnt see your Q, cabrita. Just looking at the table of contents, there seems to be additional infos, yes, but my 2010 book is packed away just now so I didnt compare side by side. |
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:03 pm |
| I looked at preview pages from the book. The table of contents is basically the same as the first book. While comparing the TOC from both, I did notice that chapter four includes information on electronic needling devices. A few other new topics are advantages of rollers and electronic devices; rollers vs. electronic devices; the development of electronic devices; and myths propagated by marketing. There is also some new information in chapter 5 about ingredients to avoid. But, other than the discussion of the electronic devices, there is not enough additional content for me to repurchase the newer edition. |
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Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:59 pm |
Thanks fawnie!
And to you as well pack - am looking forward to getting it before it goes to $2877 a copy!   |
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Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:03 am |
| Did everyone notice that on the list of ingredients to avoid, humectants are listed. Considering that most of us are needling in HA - I would like to know what his reasoning is. |
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Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:14 am |
| Keliu wrote: |
| Did everyone notice that on the list of ingredients to avoid, humectants are listed. Considering that most of us are needling in HA - I would like to know what his reasoning is. |
In his prior book he recommended using HA right after a roll, so it will be interesting to see if that changed. |
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Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:27 am |
| What else is on his "avoid" list?? |
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Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:47 am |
| Keliu wrote: |
| Did everyone notice that on the list of ingredients to avoid, humectants are listed. Considering that most of us are needling in HA - I would like to know what his reasoning is. |
Dr S divides all humectants into 2 categories: givers and takers. HA along with sodium PCA, honey and lactic acid are givers, they saturate and hydrate. He does not recommend takers ( glycerine, butelene glycol, etc.) and hazardous humectants ( urea, sorbic acid, etc.)
He still recommends using HA after cosmetic needling. Which HA product do you, guys, use?
Did anyone try Environ Ionzyme Focus Hydrating Serum (http://www.touchofskincare.ca/environ-ionzyme-cquence/environ-ionzyme-focus-hydrating-serum.html)? Bethany? |
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Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:43 am |
Interesting looking product. Not sure I need to spend $100+ to moisturize and make my skin look plumper and fresher temporarily - seems like there are more cost effective ways of achieving that.
fawnie (or anyone?) - this?:
"Contains Transcutol CG - a highly effective Penetrant enhancer"
BFG |
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Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:07 am |
Yeah, it is ridiculously expensive for a HA product, and there is no mention of any AOs, growth factors, minerals in the serum, just HA and mysterious Transcutol CG?
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Interesting looking product. Not sure I need to spend $100+ to moisturize and make my skin look plumper and fresher temporarily - seems like there are more cost effective ways of achieving that.
fawnie (or anyone?) - this?:
"Contains Transcutol CG - a highly effective Penetrant enhancer"
BFG |
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Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:29 am |
| Is this the most up to date information on needling? Would like to learn more but want to see if anyone still recommends this book. Thanks! |
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Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:40 am |
| yes, great book. |
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Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:21 pm |
| LauraLizzie wrote: |
| yes, great book. |
Thanks LauraLizzie! |
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