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Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:05 pm  |
I've read so many raves on this forum about the cellcosmet eye cream. But can it get rid of fine lines? I haven't find any post stating that.
Or, what is the best eye cream you used so far that helps to get rid of fine lines? Does it ever exist?
Thanks for any suggestion. I am using MD Forte reguvenation eye cream now but haven't see much improvement yet although its reviews on MUA are very good. |
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:43 pm |
Cellcosmet did not get rid of fine lines for me. So far, I have found a couple things that have helped, although nothing has completely taken then away. StriVectin actually gave me some results. As well, and maybe the best so far, has been putting my C serum which contains 1% retinol around my eyes. Then, I follow up with any eye cream. Katee just posted a thread about the SC 1% retinol, and I think I will try that next, as she said it is stronger because it is only retinol. Good luck!! I know it is an exhausting search.  |
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:54 pm |
I love my DeCleor products, but I have to admit the product that did the most for me in a short time (I have only had a sample - it lasted about 12 days though) was made by Z Bigatti.
Eye Restore I think it was called (I don't have the container anymore. Sephora stocked it, I remember thinking it was pricey, but I was impressed with the way my crow's feet looked. I saw real improvement while using it. |
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:17 pm |
A combo of stuff has helped my eyes.
For under the eye lines, vitamin c serum, retin-a every third night, nivea coq10 eye cream and daily sunscreen.
For the crow's feet, all of the above but also add Relax-A-Line or Relax Plus with Vialox to the mix. (I put the wrinkle relaxer on after the C serum and before my sunscreen.)
For under-eye circles, I've used PeterThomasRoth Power K Eye Rescue, Teamine Eye cream and Eye Bright serum all sucessfully. |
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:14 pm |
I second the vitamin A route.
I would recommend Avene's Ystheal eye cream, which contains retinaldehyde, which is directly converted to retinoic acid in the skin.
Retinol has to go through being converted to retinaldehyde first before being converted to retinoic acid in the skin, so presumably, retinaldehyde is more effective than retinol.
Also, every little helps - vit c, sunscreen with high UVA protection, and being gentle on the area by not dragging the skin when removing makeup. |
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:05 pm |
I too have had these sames issues and questions. I almost purchased the retinol 1% and the IS clinical based on another review. The one thing that held me back was the fact that I am only 27, and have a few lines under my eyes - no crows feet yet, and I was concerned that considering retinol thins the skin, am I doing more harm than good. I don't really want to be thinning the skin under my eyes, which is already thinner than the rest of my face if something a little gentler can do the job, do I???. 
I have to admit that i am with Faith on the cellcosmet (phew, I thought I was a freak or something..everyone else loves it ) Cellcosmet did nothing to my fine lines - my concealor was not even that great over it. I am considering an eye cream with HA in it over the top of a moisturising cream to plump the area up as well as keep it moist (an idea from another thread). i have some samples, so i will try that out and see how it goes...
To be honest, i am really confused about the eye cream issues and fine line concerns - its the first place to show your age and very scary  |
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Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:31 pm |
hi Melissa, 
The thinning debate could go on and on. I think that retinol/retinoid products are thinning if you overuse them and cause peeling too often. I think that used properly; gradually increasing over a substantial period of time, that these products stimulate collagen and repair, thickening the skin. We also use many other collegen building products like Vit C or Copper Peptides. If the lines really bother you, I would do some serious reading and make your decision about it. Some say that AHAs are thinning too. I believed this too, until I started to research it myself. Now I feel differntly about it, and use them regularily. Again, I think overuse will do more harm than good, but used properly, these types of products as well, can have great benefits. Just my opinion... |
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:21 am |
| faith wrote: |
| Cellcosmet did not get rid of fine lines for me. So far, I have found a couple things that have helped, although nothing has completely taken then away. StriVectin actually gave me some results. As well, and maybe the best so far, has been putting my C serum which contains 1% retinol around my eyes. Then, I follow up with any eye cream. Katee just posted a thread about the SC 1% retinol, and I think I will try that next, as she said it is stronger because it is only retinol. Good luck!! I know it is an exhausting search. |
Thanks for the anwser, faith. It is actually a relieve to know such an expensive eye cream doesn't help so I don't have to worry about the price.
When you say striVectin, do you mean the regualar one or their eye cream? I have the striVectin cream and I like it too. But I hope I don't have to buy their eye cream.
I am thinking to give SC retinol a shot as well. But I am eyeing on the .5% one. |
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:28 am |
| deacon wrote: |
I love my DeCleor products, but I have to admit the product that did the most for me in a short time (I have only had a sample - it lasted about 12 days though) was made by Z Bigatti.
Eye Restore I think it was called (I don't have the container anymore. Sephora stocked it, I remember thinking it was pricey, but I was impressed with the way my crow's feet looked. I saw real improvement while using it. |
I just checked the review on MUA and it is a hit or miss. Anyone know what is the active ingredient in this eye restore? |
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:32 am |
| Bad Bird wrote: |
I second the vitamin A route.
I would recommend Avene's Ystheal eye cream, which contains retinaldehyde, which is directly converted to retinoic acid in the skin.
Retinol has to go through being converted to retinaldehyde first before being converted to retinoic acid in the skin, so presumably, retinaldehyde is more effective than retinol.
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This is very informative, bad bird. I didn't know this before. Now I have to keep Avene eye cream in my list. Does anyone have any experience with this eye cream? |
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:47 pm |
| Tangerine wrote: |
Thanks for the anwser, faith. It is actually a relieve to know such an expensive eye cream doesn't help so I don't have to worry about the price.
When you say striVectin, do you mean the regualar one or their eye cream? I have the striVectin cream and I like it too. But I hope I don't have to buy their eye cream.
I am thinking to give SC retinol a shot as well. But I am eyeing on the .5% one. |
I used the regular one and the eye cream, but I actually thought the regular one was better. If it doesn't make your eyes water from the smell, then try putting it on as eye cream. It look about 2 months to really notice the results for me. |
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Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:44 am |
Hi Tangerine
.[quote]Now I have to keep Avene eye cream in my list. Does anyone have any experience with this eye cream?[/quote
I used the Ystheal eye cream when it first came out. Can't remember how many years ago that was, but sorry to say it had no visible benefits for me and I only had fine lines at the time. I think I went through about a tube and a half and then gave up. It's soothing and has a pleasant and light texture, but beyond that.... |
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Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:15 am |
| If the lines are due to dehydration (which they probabaly are if you are younger) I can highly recommend PSF's 'Super Hydrating Eye Cream' with hyaluronic acid - worked really well for me - I've had a couple of samples and thay last for ever!! I use it along side RYF's serum at night which is also fab at helping withe dehydration lines:D
www.psfskincare.com
www.rosayfruta.com |
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Lucia, VERY fair (ghostly so!)redhead, combination skin prone to dehydration. |
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Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:37 am |
Thanks Lucia, you know my lines probably are dehydration lines -I cannot drink a litre of water eveyday no many how many time I try. Also, I have had allergies ever since I can remember and used to constantly be rubbing my eyes as they were soooo itchy. Anyway, I have samples of the psf line coming, so I will give it a go to see if that works.
Thanks heaps  |
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Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:49 am |
I have always been prone to dehydration especially around my eyes (even to the point of getting flakiness) which was difficult as my skin was combination and prone to breakouts. I also find it hard to drink the recommended amount of water - I do try but dont' always manage it! I have tried SO many eye products including the MDF rejuvinating cream which DID give me results but I was also wondering about the long term effects of glycolics and retinol on my fairly young skin if I used it for years. (I use the whole MDF range as it was the only thing that cleared my skin, as my skin behaves more these days I've weaned myself off it gradually to more natural product and keep the MDF for when I'm havign a 'bad skin day'!!LOL!
Overall though I've found a combination of the RYF, the PSF Vitamin C serum (also has HA in it) and the eye cream to work best - my eyes look better than they did in my 20's! (I'm 33)
Good Luck! Hope it works for you!! |
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Lucia, VERY fair (ghostly so!)redhead, combination skin prone to dehydration. |
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Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:17 am |
| Hi Another thread (I think in product reviews) raved about the IS Clinical Eye cream and listed the ingredients which looked great to me. Anyone else have experience with this? I am in the market for an eye cream. Also I investigated buying it on the WEB and they said something about having to have an e-mail consultation first. Do they bother you after with loads of junk e-mail? What is this all about? |
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Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:27 am |
hi Sharky,
I order ISC fromwww.theskincareinstitute.com , and they don't send me any emails. Their *consultation* is pretty easy too! Just order it, and they send you an email with instructions. If you need extra help after that, you can email them back. Keep in mind that rave was for using The ISC with 1% retinol. I used ISC alone and wasn't that impressed. |
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Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:17 pm |
| Molly wrote: |
Hi Tangerine
I used the Ystheal eye cream when it first came out. Can't remember how many years ago that was, but sorry to say it had no visible benefits for me and I only had fine lines at the time. I think I went through about a tube and a half and then gave up. It's soothing and has a pleasant and light texture, but beyond that.... |
Oh how disappointing...Thanks Molly |
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Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:22 pm |
| Lucia wrote: |
| If the lines are due to dehydration (which they probabaly are if you are younger) I can highly recommend PSF's 'Super Hydrating Eye Cream' with hyaluronic acid - worked really well for me - I've had a couple of samples and thay last for ever!! I use it along side RYF's serum at night which is also fab at helping withe dehydration lines:D
www.psfskincare.com
www.rosayfruta.com |
But how can you tell whether it is 'real' or dehydration lines? I am 29 so at the age where either could happen. |
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Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:38 pm |
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| But how can you tell whether it is 'real' or dehydration lines? I am 29 so at the age where either could happen. |
I read your first post and last. Surely I am repeating what others have said.
If you have never used a vitamin C serum I strongly recommend one. C is one of the best things you can do for your skin. ALWAYS apply a sunscreen. Sunglasses I have found help.
Drink at least eight 8oz. glasses of water a day. If you drink coffee, add an extra glass of water for every cup of coffee you drink.
Personally I don't think you need to spend a lot of money on an eye cream. Use a cream that is light and moisturizing. At your age those fine lines should soften up quickly.
I have tried Cellcosmet Eye Cream. I found nothing special about it considering the price. IS Clinical sent me a sample of their cream and I really love it. If you are going with a pricy cream I would sample first. |
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Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:48 am |
| I just got the alphaderma sample pack (for free when I ordered a cleansing-milk!) and the C&C serum...being an organic skin-care freak, I must say I was at first sceptical about trying something that is not completely natural...but that went out the window as soon as I saw the results! I highly recommend getting a sample of the Prep, C&C, ADCE & Okusil from Janson-beckett (alphaderma)...it's pretty amazing. I also recommend the Bioelements quick refiner- I saw results immediately |
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Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:26 am |
Janson Beckett's sample pack would be a great thing for you to try. I did not mention it before as you seemed to be more on just eye cream and Vit C. I have been using the whole line for well over a year. LOVE IT!!!! I am 60  and have very few fine lines on my face. I sound like a broken record when it comes to ADCE but as far as skin firmness the results have been nothing less then dramatic. I also use their Vit. C&C. Awesome product and does not go unstable like other C Serums. |
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Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:21 am |
To tell if your lines are dehydration or 'real' age lines there are several things you can do to see.
Look in the mirror and place the back of your finger on your skin just under the eye on the top of the 'apple' of your cheek don't press hard just so its resting comfortably then lift your finger up towards your eye without breaking the contact - if the skin crepes its dehydrated. (you can do this on the cheek/neck/decollete too - well hydrated skin doesn't crepe - even older lined skin thats well hydrated will crease rater than crepe).
Dehydration lines will seem to dissappear or reduce greatly straight afetr you apply a rich eye product or moisturiser or look less when your face is just washed.
Real lines are always there no matter what although a good product can make them appear less, they also tend to be more 'expression' based.
Worth noting most 'real'lines start life as a dehydration line - and of course, just to confuse the issue, you can have a mixture of both!!!
Basically if the lines seem to go when you initially apply the product but re-appear as the day wears on ,then its pretty likely they are dehydration lines.
Is that any help? |
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Lucia, VERY fair (ghostly so!)redhead, combination skin prone to dehydration. |
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Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:31 am |
Actually, yes. But I am somewhat confused.  I think I have mainly deydration lines (shock horror for the no-water drinker). As well as some potentially real lines. Does that mean I should treat the diffrent self-diagnosed lines as different? That would be too hard anyway..just wondering what that means for treatment. |
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