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Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:26 am  |
Hi
Has anyone used this product? Is it true that you either use B5 gel or phyto?
I'm just about to reorder from ESD and not sure which one to go for. I have been using B5 for a year and think it is great...
Thanks
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Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:33 pm |
| Isn't the B5 gel for hydration, and Phyto for skin lightening/brightening. You can use them together, phyto first. |
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Sat Aug 13, 2005 5:24 pm |
| I called Skinceuticals awhile ago asking the same question. The woman I spoke to said that to use both would be redundant as the Phyto has they both have hyaluronic acid. I would suggest calling them to confirm. |
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Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:09 pm |
i use phyto corrective gel. is this what you are wondering about? or are you talking about the phyto +?
if you are talking about the corrective gel, i would say you don't really need both unless you want to use the phyto at night and the B5 gel in the day or vice-versa. i found that the corrective gel alone provides me with more than enough moisture such that i don't need another one. but then again, my skin is super oily! i originally started using the corrective gel to calm my irritation and lighten my red acne scars. immediately it helped with my inflamation and irritation and after 3 months my red scars are much lighter- and most nonexistent. so i guess, at least for me, it couples as a skin lightening and calming treatment as well as a hydrater.
whatever the case i also recommend that you contact skinceuticals directly with specific questions. |
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early-mid 30s || oily-combination, sensitive & acne-prone skin || mild breakouts (Aczone helps a lot) || occasional eczema rashes || fine lines around eyes || very dark under eye cirlces- concealer a must || very fair neutral-warm complexion, blue eyes, blonde hair |
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:17 am |
| Which one is better, the Phyto+ or the Phyto Corrective Gel? It seems that they serve the same purppose. One has botanical glucosides which I don't know what they really are. |
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:26 am |
I got the Phyto a while back but I've only used it a couple of times coz I don't like the sticky feeling it leaves on my skin. I plan to start using it consistently once the weather gets cooler.
I'm confused  I have pigmentation issues and I'm wondering if Phyto is meant to be a spot treatment? If it is used all the face to hydrate, wouldn't it lighten the entire area, thus leaving dark spots still visible? |
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:27 pm |
| crazyskin wrote: |
I got the Phyto a while back but I've only used it a couple of times coz I don't like the sticky feeling it leaves on my skin. I plan to start using it consistently once the weather gets cooler.
I'm confused I have pigmentation issues and I'm wondering if Phyto is meant to be a spot treatment? If it is used all the face to hydrate, wouldn't it lighten the entire area, thus leaving dark spots still visible? |
Are u talking about the Phyto+ or the Phyto Corrective Gel? Because I think both can be used all over the face. |
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:28 pm |
Hiya eSquire415  thanks for your response.
I got the Phyto Corrective Gel to help fade sun spots and acne scars. I don't want to lighten my entire face area, just the hyperpigmented spots. I could use the extra hydration come fall/winter though. If I do use it all over wouldn't the spots still stand out relative to the now lightened skin around the spots? |
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:36 pm |
| Not sure if it will even out the skin tone or would just affect the hyperpigmented area. I would think that if a particular area of your skin is hyperpigmenting, then the ingredients might work in such a way that it will normalize the pigmentation process, thereby, keeping the process of melanin production in sync with the surrounding skin. However, i'm not so sure if kojic acid, arbutin, etc. and its cofactors are that smart in doing this. If you are white, that could be possible since there's no area to depigment but if you have darker skin then it's probably better to spot treat because then it will also lighten your entire face. |
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Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:42 pm |
Thanks for the advice eSquire415!
Wouldn't it be great if the active ingredients were "smart"? I have a medium skin tone so to play it safe I'll spot treat with the Phyto and hydrate with the B5. |
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Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:00 am |
i would have posted a reply earlier but i am out of town and have limited access (and access time) to the internet.
anyway, about the phytos... i was told by a skinceuticals rep, after i emailed them about the differences between the phytos, that the phyto + is better for mature skin and that the corrective is better for my type of skin.
about covering your entire face vs. spot treatment... i have fair skin so i can't speak for darker skins but i think the corrective only lightens the hyperpigmented areas to ever out skin tone. at least this is what it has done for me.
if this stuff truly does lighten darker skin (that isn't hyperpigmented) you should consider how the skin within 1-2mm around the spot would lighten compared to the color of your skin all over (ya know, so that you would have a light colored ring around the spot/area that is hyperpigmented. yikes!  ). in spot treating it's probably hard to be exact when covering only the hypigmented area due to human error.
if you do check out with skinceuticals about whether or not the corrective gel lightens normal darker skin tones let me know. i am very curious. also let me know how the corrective gel works for you, crazyskin.  |
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Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:02 am |
| I have acnaic skin and I am 30. I have used the phyto+ for quite awhile with great results. It is important to remember that it does not 'bleach' your skin. It inhibits melatonin production. Your skin will not get too light using it. It is intended for use all over your face. |
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Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:57 pm |
amnis thanks so much for taking the time to post, I appreciate it
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| so that you would have a light colored ring around the spot/area that is hyperpigmented. yikes! |
 yikes, indeed. Nothing like a halo of light to draw more attention to my spots  Although I planned on spot treating with cotton swabs and a 5X mirror this possibility did occur to me and it has freaked me out enough that I am still applying full face. Will email Skinceuticals to see what they say and then report back on my progress. BTW I opted for the Phyto over the Phyto+ coz I did not want to use kojic acid.
MaryR, thanks for the info Glad the Phyto+ is working for you. How long have you been using it? |
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