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Fantak
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Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:53 am |
applesz. You need to put down all the products and let your skin heal.
I agree with posters that said you may have destroyed your skin barrier. This could take up to 2 months to heal.
Avoid using anything on your skin for 2 months. If you must use cerave or another neutral moisturiser lightly on your face after a shower.
Wash only with water. If you want get a mineral water spray and use that when you get the urge to use something.
Your skin may look worse for the first 2 weeks but it will progressively get better after that.
Give your skin a chance to repair itself.
Good luck |
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Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:39 pm |
If you have not done so, PLEASE see a dermatologist or any other type of doctor.
You are trying a lot of things, but I think it would be more effective -- and probably cheaper in the long run -- to go to a professional.
I hope you find a program that provides you with positive results. Please keep us posted. |
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Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:34 am |
Hello :]
-My sister has the same skin changes I have from using sundepil, she uses nothing on her face yet it has not improved unfortunately
-My doctor is so mean and just doesn't listen so I don't know if he'll refer me to a dermatologist at all
I found something interesting though
“What You Should Know About Skin Structure And Ethnicity
A recent study has demonstrated that skin properties at the level of the stratum corneum vary considerably among ethnic groups.8 East Asian and Caucasian skin are characterized by low maturation and a relatively weak skin barrier. African-American skin is characterized by low ceramide levels and high protein cohesion in the uppermost layers of the stratum corneum.
There is more transepidermal water loss in African-American skin than in Caucasian skin, predisposing patients to more xerosis. Ceramides are the major lipid constituent of lamellar sheets present in the intercellular spaces of the stratum corneum. These lamellar sheets provide the barrier property of the epidermis.2
Ceramide levels in African-American skin are the lowest while Caucasians, Hispanics and Asians have the highest levels.9 "
http://www.podiatrytoday.com/guide-dry-skin-disorders-lower-extremity?page=1
Maybe it means the sandpaper texture I'm seeing on my face is too much protein with not enough cermaides..
So maybe a salicylic peel for the protein and lactic acid and cerave for ceramides?
I'm getting more anxious because summer is coming and its the worst time because when the sun reflects on my skin it looks so bad |
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Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:04 am |
I don't know what to do anymore, doc said she couldn't help me any further, went on to imply I may have mental issues. “Are we treating what's in here or on there?” I said you're not treating my minddd! Sigh. I'm going to move gp though it sucks because he saw my skin when it was perfect so he knows there has been a change, wheras if I leave the new doctor may not see anything wrong. I got a derm referral, she said I should laser my face. I actually broke down in that room, its all too much. I blame this all on removing too much of the epidermis. I asked the derm if she thought my skin had thickened because of sundepil she said no. I actually haven't been doing anything new to my skin except avocado oil & cerave pm. Turmeric every now and again. Make up makes my skin look hideous, doesn't glide on well at all. Pictures can't even catch the awful texture I now have. I look so olddddd, eyebags worse omg. Dealing with this at my age is killing me. There are too many options but not sure which is right. Can you thicken or regrow the epidermis after harsh abrasion?
Praying for healing  |
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Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:43 am |
I had this happen to me, I've been battling for 3 years. Please stop using hyaluronic acid on the outside on your skin, only supplement inside with it. HA will only work (like cerave) if you use it at night with a humidifier while you sleep, otherwise you will be depleting your skin of moisture wearing such a moisturizer. I personally could not use cerave, it seemed to be breaking me out, have you had that affect with it? I believe you have kp on your face, you are right the product caused a hyperkeratosis reaction on your face...who knows why. Yogurt masks help tremendously but was a gradual process. Use sparingly every 3 days and leave on for an hour. Skin will look pink after it is taken off for about 20 mins. Yogurt mask is very drying so use every few days and moisturize with a cream that contains niacinamide. You can also use clay masks but look through the ingredients to be sure there isn't anything acidic or too exfoliating in the ingredients. I like olay creams, particularly olay age defying anti wrinkle cream. Do NOT use glamglow. Do not use anything with other acids other than lactic acid but make sure lactic acid is not at a high percentage, right now you cannot use things that are actually heavy in acid 12% acid is too much even 5% may be too much but experiment. I personally was not able to use lactic acid specific lotions so I had to find mild creams that just contained lactic acid as an ingredients further down in the list meaning it was probably a small percentage. Yogurt contains about .08% (or maybe it's .8% I do not recall). Use sunscreen, I liked eucerin daily perfecting lotion spf 30, something in it helped my skin (not certain if it was the zinc oxide or the combination of ingredients that made a great barrier type of cream for the face) and it also acted like a primer because it filled in those pores quite well before makeup application. I also found Silica which is found in primers to be a great skin smoother for makeup (but I like shiseido sunscreen which has silica in it) to be great and I now use that for my sunscreen/primer in one, it does a great job of making the skin look smooth with makeup on. Silica is also good barrier for the skin. Yes, you have damaged your barrier, you used sandpaper stuff that took off layers of skin and thus created the hyperkeratosis. I had wrinkles starting to form too under eyes etc. It's all happening because your skin is having a problem keeping itself balanced and moist, it is just overly dry but has lost a function to stop the dryness. Eating a lot of meat, believe it or not is important, particularly chicken I have noticed is great. Repairing the barrier particularly with niacinamide in a form of at least 4% in a cream will battle this. You could actually make your own cream. Internally you need zinc 25mg and vitamin c 100mg per day. And of course lots of water, try coconut water made by vitacoco, one container is 3x as hydrating as a glass of water. There is a chance demodex are playing a role or fungal issues are playing a role in all your issues. Sulfur can battle both issues and sulfur masks would be helping to do every few days as well or perhaps a sulfur cleanser. I noticed sulfur was helpful for me as well. It's going to take a while to build your skin's barrier back up, be light with makeup -a lightweight concealer and powder. Once your skin starts to look healthier and feel healthier, and stays that way for a while, the wrinkles will slowly look better and your under eye area you will notice feeling hydrated, moist, that is a great sign. You can start looking into retin a when the skin feels healthier. But your skin is very sensitive like mine, so I would recommend your start off with drugstore products at lower concentrations or even products containing retinyl palmitate rather than retinol. Vitamin b's being in our skin cream are important so look out for those, otherwise you may need to double up moisturizer. Do you eat meat? You need to eat more chicken, even liver pate. Please make sure you are not allergic to any of the things I have mentioned. |
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Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:00 am |
Which cream do you know of that contains Niacinamide, I've only heard of cerave pm. I can't put yoghurt on my face becase it gives me acne and a rash in the same places I'd get it if I had ingested it. I use a home made bentonite & turmeric mask but its temp effects and not that great. I'll try the olay age defying anti wrinkle cream at one point though. If I look really close I can see tiny seperate lines where the large pores are, like leather but not that severe so that moisturizer may help. I'll try the eucerin sunscreen to because I really need a pore saviour. I have wrinkle type things under my eyes too! I really hope ur right and all of this is just dryness. I take 1000mg vit c & 50mg zinc every two days. Wouldn't sulphur dry out my skin even more though? All so confusing. I took HA internally for a while but it did nothing so I don't know anymore, maybe it was the brand or something. Someone on here said Neocell collagen helped them so I'll try that, guessing ur saying eat chicken because of the protein n collagen so Neocell along side chicken it is! I just don't have the strength to be buying soo many stuff that help in no way anymore. But doing nothing to my skin has done ZERO |
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taffyvalley
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Mon May 12, 2014 8:36 am |
I recommend unrefined organic coconut oil both topically and internally.
Barely moisten your skin with purified water - you want to maintain your acid mantle (you can add a few grains of sea salt to the water). With clean hands, gently apply 1/2-1t of coconut oil to your face. Again gently, wipe the excess off with a microfiber cloth which has been moistened with purified water (or water with salt). Any remaining oil will only benefit you. Make sure the water in your home is pure for drinking and bathing. If bath/shower is not filtered, do a final rinse with purified water. On the body (and later on the face) add a small amount of raw unfiltered apple cider vinegar to restore the acid mantle.
Begin using coconut oil in place of other cooking oils. It is antibacterial and antimicrobial.
You may want to strengthen your immune system to help speed your healing.
I've had created various issues that made my face look crusty, bad, puffy, peely and/or spotty! Such a bad feeling.
The years have passed and, while it takes all my internal strength, I let go of some of my embarrassment. After high school, people are less cruel although we still feel everyone is looking at us!
I can obsess about things and stress about them, but that also makes my skin look bad...but there are times when I can be in the moment and just experience whatever is.
Also, I have seen more and more the wisdom of nature in healing.
So much that we take in and put on ourselves is quite far from nature...meats that are raised on feedlots/feces, foods that are stabilized, preserved, and have no life in them, and so on. Skin care and medicine that is designed to profit someone but not to truly benefit us.
Seek the simplest answers, breathe deeply and be well. I wish you well! |
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Mon May 12, 2014 8:51 am |
You can get niacinamide, B3 on line at
Essential Wholesale. Just add a tiny bit (3%) to the coconut oil or other pure skin cream.
Best wishes! |
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