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Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:59 pm  |
| Retin A is supposedly good for softening wrinkles, making skin a bit more resilient and thicker and giving a smoother texture, right? What can give an even skin tone free from brown spots and redness? All one color and not blotchy. |
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Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:40 pm |
| Using a green light has removed the redness in my face. I don't have any brown spots so I can't recommend anything for that. |
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havana8
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Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:29 am |
| Niacinamide is supposed to be good for treating an uneven complexion and blotchiness. |
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Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:39 am |
Vitamin C - either a L-aa serum or a C derivative (MAP or SAP for instance) serum.
It may take some trial and error to find the one that your skin likes. I find that my skin positively glows when I'm using my C regularly. It's not only sun-protective but it's AOX, rebuilds collagen and fades any brown spots over time.
It's a win-win when you find one you like. |
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Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:51 pm |
| Hydroquinone, licorice root, arbutin, kojic acid, red LED light, azaleic acid, AHAs and vitamin C. Try different actives and see what works for your skin. |
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Dry skin but not many wrinkles; 50s and Asian; Topicals: Vit C, tretinoin, hydroquinone & azaleic acid for melasma; Likes: SK-II, Shiseido, Shu Uemura, Skinceuticals, Obagi, P50, Sunday Riley, Hada Labo, facial oils |
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Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:34 pm |
| Trying to figure out how to incorporate Vit C into my routine of retin A in PM and copper peptides and estriol cream in AM. |
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Sun Dec 14, 2014 1:57 pm |
I use vit c am,and retin a pm. I've never tried anything else, but must say that, the two combined have had fantastic effect on the clarity of my skin. Obviously, broad spectrum sunscreen protects me from developing brown spots and uneven skin tone. Emu oil helps enormously with any dryness.
Despite the anecdotal evidence, copper peptides do not appeal to me. Unless I've had some true scarring, post-surgical, for example, I would not use them to enhance the clarity of my skin.
Also, am I right in thinking that, copper peptides are not supposed to be used for general maintanance of the skin, but rather as an aid in healing scarred tissue? Weren't they created for that purpose only? |
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Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:35 am |
There is differing viewpoints on this, but the general consensus now seems to be that copper peptides can be used for general skin maintenance (and improving it). The first generation were specifically designed for wound healing etc, but there are a few other generations now that can be used on a daily basis.
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| Also, am I right in thinking that, copper peptides are not supposed to be used for general maintanance of the skin, but rather as an aid in healing scarred tissue? Weren't they created for that purpose only? |
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Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:58 pm |
| When I run out of my current bottle of copper peptides maybe I'll try vitamin C instead. However, I tend to get blackheads from vitamin C serums. |
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Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:05 am |
Hmm... I've never noticed more black-heads.Because vit c stays in your body for 72 hrs after the application, I wonder whether, instead of using it every day, you could try every other day, and see if that improves the problem. Also, if you were to use it that way, you can continue with copper peptides ( every other day.)
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Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:24 pm |
It's all about the formulation, especially the inactive ingredients in a vitamin C serum that seem to contribute to blackhead formation.
I experienced this myself when I test drove Glytone's Antioxidant Anti-aging serum (pricey at $120 retail). I assume it was the tocopherol glucoside but I don't really know. The good news is when I stopped using it, the blackheads eventually went away.
I've never experience blackheads with Vivier serums. |
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Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:58 pm |
I have Pure Skin Formulations Vitamin C serum 15% Buffered L-Ascorbic Acid 3 with Ferulic Acid, hyaluronic acid, L-glycine, zinc sulfate, sodium bisulfite, phenoxethanol.
I don't know if it's my imagination but my face, neck and back of hands, the areas treated with products mentioned in this thread, all look a shade tanner than the rest of me. |
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Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:46 am |
| Trishiapp wrote: |
I use vit c am,and retin a pm. I've never tried anything else, but must say that, the two combined have had fantastic effect on the clarity of my skin. Obviously, broad spectrum sunscreen protects me from developing brown spots and uneven skin tone. Emu oil helps enormously with any dryness.
Despite the anecdotal evidence, copper peptides do not appeal to me. Unless I've had some true scarring, post-surgical, for example, I would not use them to enhance the clarity of my skin.
Also, am I right in thinking that, copper peptides are not supposed to be used for general maintanance of the skin, but rather as an aid in healing scarred tissue? Weren't they created for that purpose only? |
What kind of Vit. C are you using? |
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Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:05 am |
I have been forever trying to achieve an even skin tone too. Currently I have slight age spots on my cheeks and bigger ones on the bridge of ky nose (where I probably forgot to put on enough sunblock  )
Been experimenting with hydroquinone, vitamin C (DIY serum) and glycolic acid (NeoStrata). Those might have helped somewhat but the age spots are still there.
I got a dermaroller and am thinking of taking it to the next step - dermarolling to allow better product penetration, and then apply vitamin C and other actives such as Retin A.
I have red blotches in the T zone - forehead, chin and especially under my nose. Would niacinamide help? I have a bottle and am considering making a simple serum with it.
Any advice and comment appreciated! |
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Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:15 am |
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| When I run out of my current bottle of copper peptides maybe I'll try vitamin C instead. However, I tend to get blackheads from vitamin C serums. |
I am very prone to blackheads (and breakouts) too. Had to stop using Skinactives' Skin Brightening Cream after a few days, when blackheads started creeping up. Looking at the ingredient list and drawing from my own experience, it might be the jojoba oil, dimethicone or something else. As someone with very reactive skin, it is useful to keep a list of suspect ingredients to refer to.
My own DIY vitamin C serum has to exclude jojoba oil and vitamin E for this reason, although I plan to add maybe a tiny amount of vitamin E for my next batch to see what happens. |
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Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:35 am |
| Now that I think of it, I think I read somewhere that the ferulic acid, which is some type of iron? causes blackheads and/or vitamin C causes oxidation of the oil in your skin. Perhaps the experts on this forum would know. If that is the case, it might be okay to use C serums around the eyes, on the neck and back on hands where there are few oil glands. Also might work better for dry skin for that reason. |
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