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Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:53 pm  |
i was at a party once, and i remember talking to some doctors and a psychiatrsist about this issue. one of the doctors said that there is no medical evidence of the therapeutic value of drinking all that water. he commented that our bodies are trained to let us know when we are hungry, tired and thirsty. so, we should follow our body's impulses; and the rest is just about advertising.
on the other hand, so many people comment on how much better they feel when they drink a lot of water, so if it feels good, do it. |
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Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:06 am |
OOo a lot of great ideas!
My random thoughts (so random that I need dashes 
-I use a hard plastic water bottle that is meant to be reused and is not supposed to leech out plastic, however it is still controversial as to whether this works or not.
-I do find that when I don't drink water, my skin loses its brightness
-there is such a thing as too much water! Not only does it disturb your electrolyte balance, it can also result in kidney overuse and damage over time. Although Dasani and other water bottle brands adds electrolytes to the water, it is mainly for taste and not for your health
-I am Chinese and there is a saying about not drinking extremely cold water. I do find that this results in stomach cramps for me personally. I think this idea is mostly emphasized for period times, because it can actually increase your menstrual pain. However, some people might not have a problem with this at all. Although I do believe in alot of the chinese sayings (going off track...), I find that it is slightly biased towards Asian bodies. For example, in China, the month after a woman gives birth is very crucial where she should stay home and catch up on her nutrients and recover. Whereas I find in the western culture, women just get up and go and start taking their newborns outside into the freezing Canadian cold. Although I do not think it is necessarily a bad thing but it is absolutely unheard of in China. And I know that Asian women are more likely to get damage to their uterus and its supporting tissues if she does not take care of herself and rest for a long time after birth whereas women from other ethnicities do not have this problem at all.
ok back to water! speaking of which, I already downed 1/2 a liter and it's just 11am Bathroom time... |
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20's: rare pimples and oily T-zone..annoying little blackhead buggers on nose |
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Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:32 pm |
| Several docs have recommended drinking a half gallon of water daily. I add lemon or cucumber slices to my jug in the fridge and it helps the taste. Sometimes I add orange slices or grapes. |
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Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:35 pm |
| poofybabypenguin, I am with you, same ethinicity ...I am always thirsty. My routine food intake consists of 9 kinds of fruits and vegetable. Yet, I still drink water 3-4 L a day. |
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Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:39 pm |
| Not to be a snob, but I only drink bottled or filtered water. Our showerhead has a purifier attached to it. It kinda scares me to drink tap water. |
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Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:26 am |
| I am Chinese and I do think drinking cold water is not good for health. The scientific reason is that when you take something colder than your body temperature, your body needs more energy to warm up the blood, thus impair the blood circulation. I don't know how true it is... |
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Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:01 am |
| I thought I drank enough water (my recommended half gallon) but my doc said yesterday I needed a full gallon thru out the day to replenish completely. He says a half gallon is just to get your body to maintain. I'm having a hard time just drinking the half, so I am really going to have to discipline myself. |
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Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:27 am |
Interesting topic! 
A Japanese fren said she drinks at least 3 litres of plain water a day and the result on her skin is better to use estee lauden. Her skin is quite good (no wrinkles, pimples, redness, spots) despite her age (i donno her real age but not young). So maybe it helps.  |
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Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:46 am |
| I sometimes think that I drink too much water. I drink so much water all day, I have a glass of water before I go to bed, then I wake up thirsty. I'm very oral-fixated (Yay Freud!) so I need something to bite on or nibble on or drink throughout the day while I'm working, so I do the water thing to keep me from drinking sodas and eating candy. It works! |
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Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:49 am |
| mk wrote: |
| i was at a party once, and i remember talking to some doctors and a psychiatrsist about this issue. one of the doctors said that there is no medical evidence of the therapeutic value of drinking all that water. he commented that our bodies are trained to let us know when we are hungry, tired and thirsty. so, we should follow our body's impulses; and the rest is just about advertising. |
A few years ago Allure published a supplement to one of their issues about the biggest skin myths; one thing I always remembered was that they said there's no scientific evidence that oral hydration leads to healthier skin.
After working in advertising for a little while, I don't believe most of the things I see on TV or read in magazines, but that's a pretty bold statement. It's like the whole oil-free garbage, which I would have never learned the truth about, if not for EDS. |
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Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:05 am |
| All I know is that the more water I drink, the better I feel and the better my skin looks. When I don't drink enough water like on vacation or something, it really shows on my skin. That's enough scientific data for me! |
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Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:12 pm |
I know what you mean. What I was saying is that a lot of what you read in most beauty magazines is paid for. When I interned at an ad agency, I learned how the PR director created press kits. Once, she sent out a company email asking for help writing a release for a new line of antimicrobial golfwear. It's just talking up products that you know nothing about, including the quality and dependability...which are kind of important!
If you can die from dehydration after 3 days, water's obviously vital for your whole body, including your skin. |
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Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:52 am |
I do not drink cold water because it does not quench my thirst since I cannot drink too much at a time.
I am Indian and I used to drink loads of water - 3-4Litres. Then, the doctors in UK said it could harm my body, so I now drink about 2-2.5Litres a day. I mix hot water to the cold water to make it tepid or room temperature (depending on the season) and keep the bottle at my work table so that I can drink whenever and do not have get up from my desk to get a glass.
I have heard if you are thirsty, it means your body is already de-hydrated, so, drink before you get to that stage.
Water helps to flush all the toxins from your body and so you do need to go to the bathroom to get the toxins out!
First thing in the morning, I take warmish water with honey and fresh lime juice (a quarter lime). That helps in flushing the body as well as the lime helps you keep slim (the latter could be a myth).
When you are not used to taking too much water, begin with small steps i.e don't go from taking 1glass to 2litres. You have to increase gradually otherwise your body might feel sick eg. when starting to exercise, do it in small doses.
Hope this helps. |
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Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:09 pm |
my sushi secret, and annie r, thanks for your responses.
i was just pointing out something i heard. but at the end of my post, i think i said that many people report benefits from drinking a lot of water. i know my skin is plumper, softer and brighter; and i get less headaches, and generally feel better. so i keep it up. the post was more about an opposing view, which i found quite compelling, even though it did not marry up with my own experience. |
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:52 am |
HI
www.aquamaestro.com is a website that sells bottled water. Laurntana and llanyr are the ones recommended.
Linda |
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:39 pm |
| MK- I think it's good to throw out various views. I know what works for me in my case, but I know women with great skin and they never drink water, but diet cokes all day. Go figure. If I did that, I would look like a wrinkled prune in a week! |
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Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:19 pm |
| linda123 wrote: |
HI
www.aquamaestro.com is a website that sells bottled water. Laurntana and llanyr are the ones recommended.
Linda |
Hi Linda ~ You mentioned Laurntana and LLanyr as the two recommended waters; my question: who recommended them and for what? I noticed their Ph level is close to 5.
I think I need to order some water from that site - they really have a gourmet selection! |
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Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:30 am |
| ariesxtreme wrote: |
| Lucinda wrote: |
Also, most bottled waters are not recommended because the plastic leeches into the water. Plastic is obviously toxic. |
I've heard this also...but not for bottles that you buy and use one. I believe this may pertain to those indivduals that keep re-using the same water bottle after the initial water bottled from the company is consumed. |
Actually, that’s not true. My ex-dad was an executive at a global plastics manufacturing company and he wouldn’t allow us to eat or drink anything stored in plastic because the amount of toxins that get leeched into it.  And forget about using it in the microwave or cooking stuff in a teflon/nonstick pan, much less use that new-fangled plastic bakeware stuff (because the heat)!! All of it leeches toxins into the foods or beverages. Even medicines stored in plastic (i.e.: those brown prescription pill containers and cough syrup bottles)....
The plastics industry has great PR behind them – you probably remember all those “Plastic makes it possible” commercials that make it sound like plastic is going to save the world. My ex-dad worked directly with the chemists and the folks who conducted the safety studies so he saw all that insider info first hand and it made him so paranoid about consuming anything that had been stored in plastic. The thing that scared him the most was – at the time – no really long-term studies had been done on the cumulative effects of plastics on the body so if the test results they were doing at the time were that alarming, what would it mean after people had been exposed to them day after day, year after year?!
Unfortunately, in this day and age, it’s difficult to escape the use of plastics because that industry try HAS assimilated the world! To get stuff packaged in glass can cost an arm and a leg and not everyone can afford it but thankfully – from the plastics industry point of view – most people are blissfully unaware of the dangers. But then again, isn’t just about everything you do harmful in one way or another?! 
On the other hand, it turned out that my ex-dad was a total b*stard so maybe he exaggerated all those horror stories he told us when I was growing up...maybe it amused him to see if my mom would be able to find a way to live our day-to-day lives without utilizing plastic. With what I know about dear old Pop now, I wouldn’t put it past him! But I still won't cook anything in a non-stick pan just in case.... |
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Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:09 pm |
Yikes, CareKate, that's REALLY scary! You're right - plastic HAS taken over the world - hardly anything is NOT packaged in plastic.
Well, when you become a multi-millionaire cosmetics company founder and CEO, you're just going to have to package all your products in glass or paperboard! |
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Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:39 am |
| I drink 2-3 l/day but I dont see the effect onmy skin |
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Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:39 am |
| I drink 2-3 l/day but I dont see the effect onmy skin |
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Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:23 am |
| I drink 3L a day but only because I feel thirsty if I don't. I didn't see any effects on my skin. |
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Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:36 am |
| I guess Im really living on the edge....I drink TAP water out of a REUSED deja blue PLASTIC bottle ...there are way too many things to worry about killing you, tap water and plastic are *very* far down on my list of concerns!(Seems to me that being all stressed out about every little thing is worse for your health) I drink the recommened 64oz a day and defiently feel and see a huge difference when I dont. Your bladder does take a few weeks to adjust to it, no biggie though. |
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Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:58 pm |
I actually have two 1-litre water bottles sitting by my kitchen table daily so that I remember to drink water.
When I first started drinking eight cups of water, it was hard. I had to go to the bathroom very often and felt it was very inconvenient. I just thank God that I can pee that often as compared to dialysis patients who are under fluid restrictions.
My esthetician told me that it takes about a month to see the benefits from drinking water on my skin. It's hard to evaluate my own skin since I am an acne sufferer and am highly critical of my skin. Since it's fall season and the weather is getting colder, I tend to add hot water to my room temperature water so that what I drink keeps me warm. Icy cold water doesn't go well with my respiratory tract so I have to make sure the water temperature is just right for me. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether it's hot or cold water I am drinking so long as I am drinking water to hydrate myself and to flush out the toxins.
I know a lot of Chinese drink medicinal and herbal soups so if you don't meet the 2-litre standard that nutritionits advocate, I honestly think it's not a big deal since Chinese soup is made up of a lot of water!
My dad hates to drink water! He complains frequent visits to the bathroom interferes with his activities so he drank as little as possible. Well, he reaped what he sowed! In the last six months, he has had three painful gout attacks. He only drank water during a gout attack to flush out his uric acid. When he recovered, he resumed his old habits. After suffering so much pain for so many times, he is finally learning his lesson and drinking more water. So, I am definitely an advocate of drinking lots of fluids to keep myself hydrated. |
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