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Wed May 27, 2009 6:33 am      Reply with quote
I can't shut up on those topics so here are my two cents.
On the last part - that switching to natural is hurting the earth by deforestation and such is a problem that's more related to globalization and mass production rather than 'going green'.
There are too many products mass produced and then thrown away. So don't blame going green for a problem that's really caused by mass production. Huge companies thinking of nothing but greed and profit wanting to take over the market are producing too many products by the thousands - and that's completely unnecessary. Your local market can handle baking bread, and making natural skincare products to cater to a small area of people.

The other part at the beginning which speaks about safety and efficacy and cosmetic society 'must' to provide effective and safe ingredients to me it's just an excuse not to do it - not to do research, not to pay for natural ingredients that are usually more expensive than synthetic ones made in a lab by thousands if not millions.

In this battle, it's unfortunate but it's for the consumer to step up and make their voice heard in what we want, and hope that the industry is regulated, and not just for the synthetic part of it.

Until then, it's again up to the consumer, to read the label, do their research and promote natural products that in my opinion, if all of the above is satisfied, ie. it's safe and good for your skin, it's better for you! When they say 'safe and efficient', what exactly do they mean? Safe for whom? for consumer, or company producing the product not to get sued since this ingredient is approved by FDA? But it may not really be safe for the consumer and actually can be a suspected carcinogen - like SLS? Efficacy - another great word - how can that be so broadly used - if one and the same product can have such a wide area of effect of different people - for some it may do nothing, for some it may do everything etc. You see where I am going with this.

It's just a bunch of 'politically correct' words they've been paid to say to protect the synthetic industry.

By producing so many synthetics that are unable to disintegrate properly, aren't we hurting ecology too? it's just that we've been doing it for so long, that it's become the norm, accepted. But when we are trying to change something, of course there are going to be mistakes - but they are quickly corrected, e.g. the Palm oil - I buy that for my soap, and you know what I buy it from sustainable harvest, so you do have a choice.
We have a choice.
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Thu May 28, 2009 2:10 am      Reply with quote
hi zeverenok, I 2nd everything you write in your post above! Well spoken.
There are so many examples of ingredients of 'normal' cosmetics that are known as being harmful, non-effective filling stuff or at least dubious, that are absorbed by the body or even deposited in the body. Only think about dark hair dyes...yeah, right, very safe...
Of course people may develop allergies against ingreds of natural cosmetic, but what about formaldehyde, for example, which is very often used in conventional cosmetics and which is known to be an aggressive allergen?
As said above, it is much cheaper and enables the big players to make more profit to use mineral oil derivatives, chemicals etc. instead of high quality oils, of course the industry is nervous if more and more people realize what they are smearing on their skins.
Concerning the 'green' part: Did the companies ever think about all the silicones and other non-biodegradable stuff that are washed down the drain off peoples skin? Or the byproducts and waste during production?
The whole approach smells of fear of losing customers, money and credibility after decades of never having been questioned IMHO.
I hope I am not offending anybody, but this really sets me off every time Wink
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