Is it true that after menopause, your skin will go bad......
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free skin care · Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:56 am

Everyone ages differently - however, we will all grow old if we don't get run over by a bus tomorrow!!

But really, enjoy your life, try and look after your health and don't worry about menopause. When you get there, they'll probably have a stem cell treatment for it anyway and you'll be able to stay young forever!

free skin care · Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:47 am

Keliu wrote:

mountaingirl wrote:

Thank you for reminding me of the one thing I've got going for me: No wild chin hairs!!! Very Happy

That's because you shave!! !

hehe...I was wondering if anyone was going to point that out! I am still free and clear of any wild hairs sprouting inbetween scrapings! And by the way, I'm not shaving in a cave in these ol' mountains, I'm civilized and use an outhouse. Very Happy

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free skin care · Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:18 pm

Darkmoon, it is nice to hear some good stories about menopause.

It seems now a days all we here is the awful side of it! My mother went into menopause early, hardly had any side effects, and felt much better afterwards! Very Happy

Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:22 am

Everyone is different with menopause if your lucky like some of the posts you'll have little difficulties. If your like myself and several others you will feel like you've been cursed. I used to get compliments on how young I looked until menopause. My skin has become extremely dry irritated and I have wrinkles I thought would not appear till I was in my 60-70's. Hot flashes, brain fog, painful joints, overall feelings of doom. Until you experience something you just can't relate to how it feels. I do believe by the time you reach menopause they will have something to relieve all these symptoms. Neutral

free skin care · Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:05 pm

SoftSkin wrote:

gretchen wrote:

I'm on the pill partly out of convenience, partly due to medical costs. I had my hormones tested two years ago & briefly went on bioidenticals. It cost upwards of $1000 to get started on them & the doctor I went to turned out to be a total bitch.

You can get a tube of ProGest progesterone cream at Whole Foods, which lasts for 2 months or more, for about $45 and even cheaper online. A month of estradiol patches, depending on the dose, is $30 if you buy online from Canada. The most expensive thing is the blood tests to determine your dose. My doc tested my blood each month for three months, increasing my dose until the third month and I've been on that same dose for years. Some people order their own blood tests online.

People think bioidentical hormones always come in compounded individualized creams, which is very expensive, and it's not true.

Hi sistersweets. I am very excited because soon I will be getting on bioidentical hormones. I'm pretty fit and healthy and at proper weight but my goodness the hot flashes and night sweats are killing me!

I saw you mentioned Jack LaLanne. So sad that he died today, yet could he have asked for a better life? He helped SO many, was loved by SO many and he died at home with his wife of 50+ years - Elaine. I guess today was the first time in Jack's adult life that he missed a workout. I guess he's entitled to a rest. RIP Jack my hero!

Gidget

free skin care · Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:32 pm

Jackie284 wrote:

Hi guys,

are there really bad side effects from BIH?

Jackie xx

I've read all kinds of things about BIH on a menopause board called Power Surge; a lot of people like them, but some choose to discontinue due to side effects. From what I've gathered BHRT is pretty complex. Everyone tolerates HRT differently.

2 years ago I went to a doctor in Santa Fe who has started a "skin care" business (ie, injections and fillers, medical skin care products) in addition to her emergency medical care practice. I was hoping to discuss my condition which at that time was early perimenopausal; ie, having to get up and pee at night. My other symptoms (insomnia, fatigue, acne) are more or less managed by the pill but I thought I'd look in to BHRT to fully address the symptoms.

Much to my surprise this doctor did not care one whit about my symptoms but instead said she thought I probably still had plenty of estrogen because I have a "glow". She also praised my use of Prevage.

http://ultiskin.com/

http://ultimed.com/

Point is, there are doctors out there who have decided to hop on the BHRT market who are more in to marketing it as a skin care solution without taking in to account that bad skin is only one symptom of menopause. The key I think is to find a doctor who listens and takes treating menopause seriously; ie, as more than just a vanity trip.

I definitely believe hormone loss at mid life ruins skin. I will never go off them, ever. In the last year I've added OTC progesterone to "wake up" my estrogen receptors and also to counter some of the bad effects of using chemical estrogen. I've ordered estriol online but that is hit or miss; often the product doesn't make it in the mail and gets depotentized.

I am interested in going on a rythmic dosed system that Suzanne Somers uses, the Wiley Protocol. T.S. Wiley, the developer of the protocol, has AMAZING skin and from what all I have read has never mentioned skincare as part of what she does to maintain her looks. True, her work is science and medical research related, but still. Just a thought. Idea

http://www.thewileyprotocol.com/
http://newsguide.us/index.php?path=/education/New-Wiley-Protocol-Web-Site-Launches/

free skin care · Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:28 pm

Rhythmic dosing as per the Wiley Protocol is one way of taking hormones; it certainly seems very interesting from what I have read. A lot of people do very well on higher doses of hormones cycled rhythmically.

My eyes were really opened when I read in Suzanne Somer's book Knockout that her oncologist Julie Tamaguchi prescribes Tamoxifen, chemotherapy as well as the Wiley Protocol, with equal rates of success and failure for all treatments. She says she doesn't believe hormones cause cancer and that frankly, doctors still don't really know what causes it.

http://www.wileyprotocolsystems.com/wp-providers/the-faculty/149-dr-julie-taguchi.html

free skin care · Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:06 pm

gretchen wrote:

Rhythmic dosing as per the Wiley Protocol is one way of taking hormones; it certainly seems very interesting from what I have read. A lot of people do very well on higher doses of hormones cycled rhythmically.

My eyes were really opened when I read in Suzanne Somer's book Knockout that her oncologist Julie Tamaguchi prescribes Tamoxifen, chemotherapy as well as the Wiley Protocol, with equal rates of success and failure for all treatments. She says she doesn't believe hormones cause cancer and that frankly, doctors still don't really know what causes it.

http://www.wileyprotocolsystems.com/wp-providers/the-faculty/149-dr-julie-taguchi.html

I have a few things to say about this Smile

a. Dr. Tamaguchi was carrying this protocol saying how she was going to publish the data (this was around 2006) showing the world how great and harmless the protocol was... that never got published.
Why? I don't know, but it sounds fishy

b. There was a sort of "exposee" in Menopause in 2009 of the whole Wiley protocol and the many unethical and strange things about it. Here are some quotes:

"As presented to the public and by its investigators, the Wiley Protocol is a multicenter phase II trial. There is no clear record of phase I testing other than the PI's statement in her book that "Many women all over the country, with and without cancer, have volunteered to use this protocol treatment…the doses have been arrived at by trial and error in human subjects over the last seven years"16 (p. 208). This statement has a reference, but when examined, it refers only to the book's acknowledgment page (p. xi), which thanks an undisclosed number of cancer patients, as well as women "old and young without cancer" who "volunteered to try the principles of [the Wiley Protocol]."

"The presence of a "harmed participants" Web site that claims to have heard complaints from as many as 200 women (interview with organizers of RhythmicLiving.org) indicates that safety concerns over the Wiley Protocol have been raised. Normally, when safety concerns are raised in either a phase I or II trial, it may be grounds for stopping the trial.Without a formalized system of determining the frequency and seriousness of adverse events, the fact that these have arisen spontaneously suggest that many more problems are probably present. When the investigators presented early data on the women supposedly followed on the Wiley Protocol, serious concerns over safety were raised"

c. There are 2 websites built by people who have had very serious effects due to the WP:
http://rhythmicliving.org/
http://wileywatch.org/

d. I find it ironic that Suzanne Sommers who promotes BHRT as safe had herself breast cancer AFTER she started taking BHRT.

e. I don't think anyone can deny, with our current medical knowledge, the role of estrogen in some forms of breast cancer and endometrial cancer.

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