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Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:51 pm |
I find Paula's info interesting, but take everything with a huge block of salt. Unlike my mother-in-law who totally believes the work of this vitamin lady (can't remember her name) and won't be budged with evidence from peer reviewed scientific publications to the contrary. |
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havana8
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Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:20 pm |
I am not opposed to reading the odd thing from her but I wouldn't *consult* her before or after making a purchase. I do, however, check out feedback, comments and reviews from the real and varied people on this forum.  |
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Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:32 pm |
I used to consult her product reviews on everything. I actually would go to Borders and sit there, writing all her suggestions down.
I actually stopped that right before I discovered EDS...hence the google search that started it all...I fell upon the gloriousness that is EDS!
I still check her ingredient glossary on occasion, but after her prices went up, I went elsewhere for products. I used to use her BHA, now everyone knows that I'm an I Feel Pretty kinda gal currently! |
_________________ 32, Fair Skin, combo/break-out prone. Simple routine of REN No. 1 Purity Cleansing Balm and Argan oil as a moisturizer; Clarisonic when needed. That's it! |
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Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:06 pm |
I take what she says with a grain of salt. Once she started her own line of skincare it was hard to believe she could be objective on skincare. Plus, I get results from Decleor a line she doesn't like at all. |
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Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:42 pm |
Pudoodles wrote: |
I don't pay any attention to her, period.
PUdoodles |
Yes. I don't pay any attention to her, too. |
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Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:20 am |
I like the idea that she (people like us) stood up telling people that how many craps out there in the cosmetic counter ... fortunately I agree with her with this. Because of her, I began to read ingredients and it really helped.
I don't really agree with her with everything ... like ... oil is not good for oily skin at all, every moisturizer without sunscreen is not good ... stuffs like that.
I actually never bought products she recommended but I just use the concept ... like ... my skin needs good anti-aging, antioxidants, moistuirzer, sunscreen ... and that's about it. I read the ingredients myself and it works pretty well for me.
So I wouldn't say that she is NOT good or she is VERY good. But her book is some how helpful. |
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Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:57 am |
I stopped listening to her when she developed her own product line. Besides, if I want to read about great skincare and anti-aging products, I come here. I don't have to read her books. |
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Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:41 pm |
This poor woman lost all credibility (the little she did have) when she decided to create her own line. I mean, come on!!!! Would you take Estée Lauder seriously if they told you not to use Chanel or Lancôme?
And another thing, she hates all the products I love and some of the products she recommends I hate, so we're really not on the same page at all! |
_________________ Makeup and skincare are my passion!! My dayjob is just to pay for the obsession... |
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Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:47 pm |
I am completely turned off by someone who writes reviews about products based solely on the ingredients..without ever having tested the product herself. Total hogwash! Maybe the benefits come from the way the ingredients interact...but her results/opinions have been so far off from my personal experience..that I completely ignore her suggestions.
I would trust the reviews here in the forum first and foremost. We have at least personally tried the product!! |
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:59 pm |
Yeah ! I dont think you can give a good product opinion if you did not try it on your own skin !Lost of time I bought products that I like the ingredinents list, the smell, the texture on my hand...but did not like the results on my face ! |
_________________ Katya, 30, Shiny disco ball prone to breakout,not sensitive, fair skin ,still try to find the perfect skincare routine. |
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:03 pm |
Yes I do agree with you on that the fact she sells her own line of skin care makes her apprear not entirely objective. |
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:36 pm |
she has some good points. But the fact that even her proucts aren't perfectly suitable for all consumers points out that all brands have their pros and cons  |
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:47 pm |
I don't think she is right! |
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Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:32 pm |
she seems silly to me. she does have good points but so do a lot of people. she sees herself too much as being right about everything and i KNOW she isn't! |
_________________ about to hit my 40s, retin-a user, differin, LRP |
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Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:06 pm |
She seems to be knowledgeable albeit biased. Skin care products are so personal; you have to find out what works for you. For the most part, she seems to only really like her products. |
_________________ Deborah Turner |
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Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:34 pm |
She's created a very good business putting down other companys lines.I've read several of her books,and wasn't impressed. |
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Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:37 pm |
I never felt that she liked her products best. Her yearly beauty reviews appeared to be a wide spectrum of products, including her own.
I did get on the PC bandwagon and bought a lot of her products. They were not for me, although I do use the AHA Gel (8%) once in a while. I think the problems I had with PC products is the use of silicones in almost everything! And, I'm slowly coming to realize that silicones and me are not good friends... |
_________________ 62, dry skin prone to milia - why oh why can't I find skincare products I can rave about! |
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Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:56 pm |
She is someone who is writing an opinion, and she also has her own line. No one can be objective when they have their own line. |
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Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:20 am |
Wasn't it sometime in the 70's when her book first came out? I know she was the first person I knew who attacked the industry and stood up for the consumer. You gotta applaud her for that.
I really never go to her site anymore unless someone posts it in a discussion thread. Guess you could say I've grown past her. I think most people who are on these message boards don't take her as the last word on anything. |
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Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:08 pm |
gottaHAVEitALL wrote: |
This poor woman lost all credibility (the little she did have) when she decided to create her own line. I mean, come on!!!! Would you take Estée Lauder seriously if they told you not to use Chanel or Lancôme?
And another thing, she hates all the products I love and some of the products she recommends I hate, so we're really not on the same page at all! |
Gottahaveitall, Paula B NEVER expects anyone to agree with her and she NEVER would tell anyone what to purchase. She recommends several lines or brands of cosmetics other than her own. I only know that I've been lied to or was contradicted on several skin care/cosmetic items at the makeup counter. So in essence I guess they (other companies) can be just as bad. |
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Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:17 pm |
I did believe her at first and then I sampled a whole lot of her range. Her products just didn't do it for me.
She does write off products based on ingredients only - so if a product has lemon oil in it she will say it is potentially aggravating. Unfortunately, I have had huge success with natural and essential oil based products and can't agree with her on this one.
I suppose she is a very "science" based analyst of skincare products. I just don't think that you can have such certain views on things unless you have trialled and tested them. That's why I come here and MUA. Nothing beats hearing about people's first hand experiences. |
_________________ Look younger???? What the???? I would be happy with not looking any older!! Living in desperate hope. |
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Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:11 pm |
I refer to her book or website for ingredients analysis only. But I know ingredient dosen't mean everything. |
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Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:24 am |
I think Paula Begoun deserves some credit for at least trying keep people more informed and aware of their choices when it comes to skincare and makeup. I have learned a lot about skincare ingredients by reading her glossary; and her information about the big corporations is interesting, and something I may not have even thought about if I hadn't come across her website and her book. And let's face it, people do spend way more on certain products than their ingredients warrant, often just because it is of a certain brand. I believe that Paula Begoun has good intentions, or at least started out with good intentions.
Having said that, I agree with everyone who has pointed out that she is happy to promote her own products while putting down others, and I don't believe anyone should really be reviewing a product in any detail that they haven't tried. And she does seem to discount the fact that skincare is a very subjective thing - what may be an irritant to one person's skin could do wonders for another's.
I do think she has some great skincare products: her One Step Facial Cleanser for Normal to Dry Skin is excellent for sensitive skin, even sensitive skin that's oily, like mine is. Her Skin Balancing Toner is also very good, and her Hydrating Treatment Cream is very soothing on dry patches. I also like her BHA 1% lotion.
I do not much like her makeup, with the exception of her Mocha lipliner, which goes very well with a nude lipstick or gloss. I also don't mind her Sheer Matte Blush in Flawless Nude. but I don't like her lipsticks, and the foundations I've tried are terrible! |
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Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:25 am |
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I lost respect for her when she came out with her own products and started touting them as the best. So much for objectivity! |
Preach it!! It would be like Consumer Reports selling products. Uh ... don't think so. |
_________________ Cheers - Ruth/4sons 56 yrs. old, combination skin, getting tired ... |
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Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:50 pm |
I find it interesting when she compares drugstore brands with dep't store brands. Most of the time, they are owned by the same parent company and are very similarly formulated. She uncovers the marketing and advertising B.S. that sells the higher-end products.
I wouldn't buy any of her products, though. |
_________________ 43 and still think I'm 23 ... quite shocking when I look in the mirror. |
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